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Should women be awarded medals if they lost to Transwomen in UK sport since 2010?

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Willandra · 17/04/2025 03:26

Hello,

So the Supreme Court ruled yesterday that the Equality Act 2010 means biological women when it refers to women's sex-based protections and women's single sex spaces including women's sport.

Does that mean that sporting organisations that allowed Transwomen to compete in women's sport were breaking the Equality Act? And have been since 2010?

Do you think women who lost out to Transwomen in UK sports since 2010 should now be awarded medals they would have otherwise won? Not necessarily stripping the Trans athletes like drug cheats, but acknowledging the sporting bodies got it wrong...?

YANBU for yes, that's not unreasonable to give the women the medals.

YABU for leave sports results unchanged

Cheers (first time starting a thread! 😋)

OP posts:
MikeRafone · 17/04/2025 06:45

It’s too late now, the moment has gone. Similarity to Armstrong winning the tour and then finding he’d been cheating imo

MidnightPatrol · 17/04/2025 06:41

There is probably precedence for doing this in examples of atheletes now known to have been drugging themselves etc.

And - I don’t think it happened.

I think there should certainly be removing any records held by male athletes in female categories.

CasperGutman · 17/04/2025 06:40

Codlingmoths · 17/04/2025 04:49

Not if their category was based on an incorrect definition of women, since the Supreme Court ruling applies retroactively. They were wrong. If their category is women and people who identify as women then yes. But mostly I think they’ve just redefined women, which is not on.

There's no requirement for rules set by sporting bodies or anyone else to use the same definition as in the Equality Act. The Supreme Court addressed this misconception in paragraph 2 of their judgment: "It is not the role of the court to adjudicate on the arguments in the public domain on the meaning of gender or sex, nor is it to define the meaning of the word 'woman' other than when it is used in the provisions of the [Equality Act] 2010."

OutandAboutMum1821 · 17/04/2025 06:40

This never should have been allowed in the first place, so yes they absolutely should.

Oblomov25 · 17/04/2025 06:25

They should. But I bet this won't happen.

GarlicSmile · 17/04/2025 04:51

Don't hold your breath! The IOC's still debating whether to reallocate the medals won by victims of East Germany's state-sponsored doping program in the 1970s and 1980s.

If they do it, that would encourage the governing bodies of other sports to consider reallocations of 'trans' medals. I suspect few, if any, would be prepared to go out on a limb right now.

Codlingmoths · 17/04/2025 04:49

EsmeSusanOgg · 17/04/2025 04:21

No. Because sporting bodies can decide to be trans inclusive or exclusive (good article on the BBC about this) and this remains the case.

They can update their rules if they want. And people taking part in events after any rule update would be subject to those updates rules. But if the medals were awarded under the rules as they stood at the time, then they still stand.

That's simply how rules, and if you go further legislation, work.

Not if their category was based on an incorrect definition of women, since the Supreme Court ruling applies retroactively. They were wrong. If their category is women and people who identify as women then yes. But mostly I think they’ve just redefined women, which is not on.

User37482 · 17/04/2025 04:43

Yes, they were cheated, they deserve the bloody medals they earned.

Chersfrozenface · 17/04/2025 04:39

The Supreme Court judgement has not suddenly changed the meanings of the words 'woman' and 'women' in law. It has just made it clear that they are based on biology and, more importantly, always have been.

Sports organisations that have run competitions labelled "women's events" and allowed individuals who were not women in law to participate have discriminated against women. They should recognise this, publicly.

EsmeSusanOgg · 17/04/2025 04:21

No. Because sporting bodies can decide to be trans inclusive or exclusive (good article on the BBC about this) and this remains the case.

They can update their rules if they want. And people taking part in events after any rule update would be subject to those updates rules. But if the medals were awarded under the rules as they stood at the time, then they still stand.

That's simply how rules, and if you go further legislation, work.

Thunderpants88 · 17/04/2025 03:27

Great idea!!!!!