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To speak to my neighbour's about her disabled child?

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RootsBeforeTheFruits · 16/04/2025 23:16

OK I've named changed....

I've recently moved house and have been at the new house about 9 months, for the first few months next door was empty and being renovated. Once it finished it was quickly rented out to my current neighbour's. She's a nice enough woman we have a gab in passing, she had a son with additional needs.

Here's the problem ....it's a terraced style house and he frequently bangs shit out of the walls, in the day I don't mind as much it's the day, but he bangs well into the night i don't mean the odd tapping it's actually shaking our walls. It frequently wakes my children up in the night and they've been extra tired in school.

Do I speak to her about it, i explain to the children that he has additional needs and more than likely can't help this behavior, I really don't know what to do

OP posts:
Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:52

"Yes I know exactly about autism. There is no excuse for causing no sleep for the neighbours."

But you don't know this teenagers autism. Could you describe my teenagers autism?

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:51

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:46

Actually I do know. Unlike you I don’t have to shout down others with you don’t know all the time. Yes I know exactly about autism. There is no excuse for causing no sleep for the neighbours.

Its a huge spectrum i doubt you know all the different presentations and nuances of autism.

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:51

Bluebell865 · 19/04/2025 09:48

DC has severe autism. We have been discharged from all NHS services as it has been agreed there is nothing else that can be done. Any existing need is met via EHCP (special school) and the Early Help services which funds a few hours respite. Not even social services are interested and trust me, there is a lot going on with my child and their high needs. 'disability specialists' - what on earth are these? You really do not have the foggiest clue what the reality looks like. Manifesting magic unicorns doesn't make them real!!!!!

I’ve not thought of unicorns. Is this something you’ve tried? Do you think that the op should put up and shut up? From your laughing emoji further down I feel sorry for your neighbours if you have neighbours.

Bluebell865 · 19/04/2025 09:48

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:42

At this level of disability specialists are involved.

DC has severe autism. We have been discharged from all NHS services as it has been agreed there is nothing else that can be done. Any existing need is met via EHCP (special school) and the Early Help services which funds a few hours respite. Not even social services are interested and trust me, there is a lot going on with my child and their high needs. 'disability specialists' - what on earth are these? You really do not have the foggiest clue what the reality looks like. Manifesting magic unicorns doesn't make them real!!!!!

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:46

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:40

Its clear from your very ignorant answer you dont understand what severe autism is if you did you would know not every one is capable of learning and can understand redirection.

Edited

Actually I do know. Unlike you I don’t have to shout down others with you don’t know all the time. Yes I know exactly about autism. There is no excuse for causing no sleep for the neighbours.

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:45

"At this level of disability specialists are involved."

You mean they have will have seen a paediatrician once.

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:44

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:42

At this level of disability specialists are involved.

Not al all times ,they are only involved for specific issues ,once those issues are resolved they will discharge the child.

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:42

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 19/04/2025 09:34

Do you know how hard it is to get to someone who can prescribe melatonin? You can't just walk into your GP and ask for it.

I've been trying for years for my son.

It's a massive failure of the system for sure, but it's just not as simplistic as "trying medication".

At this level of disability specialists are involved.

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:40

BooBooDoodle · 19/04/2025 09:35

I would have a word. She needs to be redirecting him and making an effort to let her child know what is and isn’t acceptable because he is capable of learning despite his issues (I have experience with my niece). You and your family shouldn’t be suffering because of this. I get he has additional needs and what not but sometimes this is an excuse just to let kids do as they please without boundaries being put in and letting them crack in despite the impact their behaviour has on others. This child is going to need such boundaries if he has a chance at coping and regulating properly when he’s older.

Its clear from your very ignorant answer you dont understand what severe autism is if you did you would know not every one is capable of learning and can understand redirection.

BooBooDoodle · 19/04/2025 09:37

Bumpitybumper · 18/04/2025 08:39

Why on earth should OP have to speak to the LA about the adaptations? It isn't her child causing the nuisance noise and severely depriving the neighbours of an essential need i.e. sleep. She of course can try in the first instance to get her neighbour to make changes if there are any quick and easy adaptions that can be made to resolve the problem but it is absolutely entitled to suggest that OP and her children have to put up with chronic sleep deprivation caused by a disabled child from another family.

The entitlement is expecting that one person's rights (i.e. the disabled child) should infringe on the rights of OP and her family and it is somehow OP's responsibility to mitigate against this.

This!!!

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:36

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:29

"Good to try it out though. The doctors would have options for sleep meds."

GPs cannot prescribe melatonin because it is off licence for children. It would have to be done by a paediatrician and they are reluctant to prescribe it. There has been a large move away from trying to medicate severe autism including drugs prescribed by psychiatrists.

It’s a recommended medication for autism. The child has to under be under specialist care.

BooBooDoodle · 19/04/2025 09:35

I would have a word. She needs to be redirecting him and making an effort to let her child know what is and isn’t acceptable because he is capable of learning despite his issues (I have experience with my niece). You and your family shouldn’t be suffering because of this. I get he has additional needs and what not but sometimes this is an excuse just to let kids do as they please without boundaries being put in and letting them crack in despite the impact their behaviour has on others. This child is going to need such boundaries if he has a chance at coping and regulating properly when he’s older.

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:34

"The LA won't even provide a school place for many of them."

Yes my son has been out of school since last summer.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 19/04/2025 09:34

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:18

Good to try it out though. The doctors would have options for sleep meds.

Do you know how hard it is to get to someone who can prescribe melatonin? You can't just walk into your GP and ask for it.

I've been trying for years for my son.

It's a massive failure of the system for sure, but it's just not as simplistic as "trying medication".

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:34

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:30

How much respite care do you think is available? ,i consider us fortunate that we get a package of respite but in reality it is one or two days a week in the school holidsys at a special needs play scheme 9-3
Every other saturday at the same scheme for five hours and two overnights a month
As for melatonin it doesnt work for every child and its supoosed to help a child get to sleep not keep them asleep .

Do you think it acceptable to be causing noise at night that means no sleep for the neighbours?

x2boys · 19/04/2025 09:30

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 08:59

Are you saying that medication and respite care are lies? Do you cause your neighbours untenable noise ?

How much respite care do you think is available? ,i consider us fortunate that we get a package of respite but in reality it is one or two days a week in the school holidsys at a special needs play scheme 9-3
Every other saturday at the same scheme for five hours and two overnights a month
As for melatonin it doesnt work for every child and its supoosed to help a child get to sleep not keep them asleep .

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:29

"Good to try it out though. The doctors would have options for sleep meds."

GPs cannot prescribe melatonin because it is off licence for children. It would have to be done by a paediatrician and they are reluctant to prescribe it. There has been a large move away from trying to medicate severe autism including drugs prescribed by psychiatrists.

Toohottoclean · 19/04/2025 09:28

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:18

Good to try it out though. The doctors would have options for sleep meds.

Do you really think the parent won't have already tried melatonin? Do you have any experience of looking after a severely
disabled teen in this climate? The LA won't even provide a school place for many of them.

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:18

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:14

"Are you saying that even when asleep from meditation that the kid would be banging on the walks?"

Sleep medication isn't a sedative. There are lots of children it doesn't work for.

Good to try it out though. The doctors would have options for sleep meds.

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:17

Melatonin isn't some magic potion.

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:14

"Are you saying that even when asleep from meditation that the kid would be banging on the walks?"

Sleep medication isn't a sedative. There are lots of children it doesn't work for.

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 09:08

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:04

"Are you saying that medication and respite care are lies? Do you cause your neighbours untenable noise ?"

There is no medication to stop banging on walls and respite care would be a couple of nights a month (if you are lucky). Many LAs now provide nothing.

Are you saying that even when asleep from meditation that the kid would be banging on the wall? Melatonin is part of autism care.

Bumpitybumper · 19/04/2025 09:07

Bluebell865 · 19/04/2025 08:35

The mother of the disabled child will have far more control over the situation than OP. She will have options. Maybe options she doesn't like or want to use but they will be available for her.

@Bumpitybumper what options???

Potentially moving the child's room to a room with no adjoining walls. Doing the million and one suggestions on this thread regarding padding, helmets, diversions etc. She will undoubtedly be receiving quite a lot of money from the state due to her child's disability whilst OP will be entitled to none of this. The person best placed to tackle the issue is the neighbour and not OP.

If none of the above works then the child is clearly inappropriately housed and the neighbour must seek alternatives. This may involve specialist placements or simply looking for. Semi detached or end terraced house that has a room the disabled child can use.

OP must advocate for her own family. Move if she can but also pursue other available options including seeking formal action from the LA.

Sheeparelooseagain · 19/04/2025 09:04

"Are you saying that medication and respite care are lies? Do you cause your neighbours untenable noise ?"

There is no medication to stop banging on walls and respite care would be a couple of nights a month (if you are lucky). Many LAs now provide nothing.

Bluebell865 · 19/04/2025 09:01

ButterCrackers · 19/04/2025 08:55

You speak for yourself not me. Do you think that the op should put up with the noise?

No, I don't think so but having a child with very complex needs I also have a lot of first hand experiences with the system that is meant to support us and - newsflash - there is next to nothing. I am just realistic. I would consider moving as I know that there won't be much that can or will be done. The child cannot control it's behaviours. There is nothing that can be done. The LA won't fund a detached house. Adaptations can only do so much and will likely try to wiggle out in any case... not sure what you think actual help the family with the disabled child can access which would make a difference to the OP? I feel for the oP and would not want to live like that but I am also painfully aware that in reality (even though this doesn't appear fair) the only one who can make a change that will make a difference is the OP herself - by moving. It's not about what's right or wrong but about what is realistic and achievable. You clearly do not have much (or any) experience caring for a child with severe needs and fighting the system for support. I don't blame you. If I wouldn't have to fight the system myself, I couldn't possibly imagine how difficult things are these days. HTH.

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