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I know IABU but I cant seem to let this go

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PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:02

DD is almost 14 and perfectly sensible. She can be completely self caring, she is hard working blah blah.

But during the holidays and after school for a couple of hours term time, she lets herself in and is by herself. Since her brother left for Uni last year I have put a rule in place that she cant eat cherry tomatoes, grapes or anything like that unless I am home because of the choking risk.

I KNOW that this is ridiculous but luckily DD thinks I am mad but indulges me.

I suspect it is from my attending the funeral of an old friend who was otherwise healthy, who passed away from choking at around the same time DS left. His wife was with him and called 999 after she couldnt help him and he still died. She would be on her own so she would have no help at all.

I know it is high level paranoia but I cant seem to let it go, probably because there is a voice saying "but what if you let her and then she chokes.....".

Mad I know.

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Hankunamatata · 16/04/2025 22:47

Just get her to cut them if she wants to eat them?

godmum56 · 16/04/2025 22:47

Op, I get it. The Heimlich manoevre is taught widely but I don't think its as widely taught that you can do it on yourself. I used to work in the NHS so I got taught it as part of the training, lucky for me as I needed it. In my case it was a bite of sandwich. Honestly if your DD is okay with it then I wouldn't be too worried, it sounds like the two of you have a good relationship. I haven't voted.....I mean it is unreasonable but if your DD is ok with it, its perhaps better than piling stress on you. I would say one thing though shich is that this ever starts to spread....ie you add more thing she can't eat or more things she can't do, then please do get some help.

tryingtobesogood · 16/04/2025 22:44

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:22

She wont. We are both ..... wired differently (not diagnosed) and I have a few rules of hers that I follow for the same reason. We are a family of oddballs.

I think that’s rather lovely, what a kind family you must be

LillyPJ · 16/04/2025 22:44

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:37

I grew up in the 70's and literally every family I knew had one. But then house electrics, gas fires, etc safety wasnt as good as it is now. House fires are (now) thankfully a rarity but I think thats probably because of the shonky work done on houses in those days. Dodgy boilers, highly inflammable soft furnishings, smoking and drinking in hard conjunction, nylon clothes.

It was drummed into all of us as kids how to get out or get help in a fire.

I grew up in the 60s and the only heating in our house was an open coal fire. Also, my mum smoked so there was plenty of risk of a house fire! No smoke alarms either. But we never had a fire drill and not did any of my friends to my knowledge. Maybe public awareness or government warnings came in later?

PeloMom · 16/04/2025 22:38

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:21

This where the IABU really comes out....

(And is outing, so I apologise if anyone recognises this. He was my friend and his wife and I are good friends, I mean no disrespect)

It was a piece of sausage. They were having a chip shop dinner. It was so random and awful.

I read about a kid (not too young though, I believe 7 or older) that died from chocking on a piece of sausage in a restaurant and the staff didn’t know what to do.

heroinechic · 16/04/2025 22:37

Get a life vac?

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:37

LillyPJ · 16/04/2025 22:32

No, everyone doesn't. It never even occurred to me, though perhaps it should have. However, there is danger everywhere if you look hard enough and you have to balance taking sensible precautions with having a life.

I grew up in the 70's and literally every family I knew had one. But then house electrics, gas fires, etc safety wasnt as good as it is now. House fires are (now) thankfully a rarity but I think thats probably because of the shonky work done on houses in those days. Dodgy boilers, highly inflammable soft furnishings, smoking and drinking in hard conjunction, nylon clothes.

It was drummed into all of us as kids how to get out or get help in a fire.

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LillyPJ · 16/04/2025 22:32

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:26

Well the house fire thing, we have a drill for, always have had since eldest (now 34) was little. Doesnt everyone?

Get out if you can. If you cant call 999 and smash your bedroom window (single glazing, so smashable). Then call next door.

Surely everyone has a fire drill?!

No, everyone doesn't. It never even occurred to me, though perhaps it should have. However, there is danger everywhere if you look hard enough and you have to balance taking sensible precautions with having a life.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:32

BlondiePortz · 16/04/2025 22:26

You are being controlling people can dress it up the way they want its still controlling are you this obsessive of other things to her?

No. In fact in her friendship group, I am the "cool" mum! Except when it comes to small fruit it seems!

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JudasTree · 16/04/2025 22:32

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:21

This where the IABU really comes out....

(And is outing, so I apologise if anyone recognises this. He was my friend and his wife and I are good friends, I mean no disrespect)

It was a piece of sausage. They were having a chip shop dinner. It was so random and awful.

Respectfully, OP, you need to find a way to deal with this.

I saw someone die after choking on a piece of steak — in Dubai, no proper street addresses, illogical road layouts, so not unusual then to see the emergency services dashing about trying to find someone. A friend of a friend died tripping down the stairs on her dressing gown cord. Broken neck. When I was about five, the next door neighbour’s baby died of SIDS, and I remember to this day her running in with the baby and screaming for my mother, though I didn’t know what had happened. A friend’s healthy 13 year old’s heart stopped during a PE lesson, and he only survived because they had a defibrillator in the actual hall, the teacher had just been trained to use it, and they lived close to a paediatric cardiac unit.

All these things are horrible, and terrifying, but you need to find a way of dealing with the thoughts, and to put it on your child.

Fgdvevfvdvfbdv · 16/04/2025 22:31

I feel the same about those 2 foods, as my DC have got older I’ve always told them to bite them and never put them in whole.
The reality is they can choke on anything. My DH had a 1/8 of a large tomato caught in his throat the other day, but luckily managed to pull it back out.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:28

Sofiewoo · 16/04/2025 22:22

What is the relevance? Are wannabe rugby players less able to choke?

No, but in my head....it makes sense.

Thats why I said I kinow IABU.

Daft that I am ok with her making her lunch, when she could just as easily choke on a ham sandwich but I am fixated on the things that you dont let toddlers eat unsupervised.

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PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:26

Anonym00se · 16/04/2025 22:20

I really feel for you. I’ve had GAD in the past and I had exactly the same feelings about my children, I know exactly how terrifying it is. I’m very sorry about your friend.

But you CANNOT put your neurosis onto your dd, it is really unfair and will mess her up too. You need to see your GP and get this sorted. People die in all kinds of ways. If you don’t tackle this it will grow and you’ll end up fretting about her falling down the stairs, or drowning in the bath or a fire starting. It’s no way to live for either of you.

Well the house fire thing, we have a drill for, always have had since eldest (now 34) was little. Doesnt everyone?

Get out if you can. If you cant call 999 and smash your bedroom window (single glazing, so smashable). Then call next door.

Surely everyone has a fire drill?!

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BlondiePortz · 16/04/2025 22:26

You are being controlling people can dress it up the way they want its still controlling are you this obsessive of other things to her?

TruJay · 16/04/2025 22:25

I totally understand this. I almost lost my ds as a small toddler from choking, I’m talking not breathing, purple and floppy. The scariest day of my life. He’s a teen now and I tell him not to eat certain things while I’m out. I used to say he couldn’t eat at all while I nipped out which is crazy, I know, but it totally traumatised me. He indulges me too (about avoiding certain things). I know it’s irrational but I am terrified of choking or having to see any of my children (or anyone) like that again.

I don’t have any advice how to move past the fear just wanted to say I totally get it.

nomas · 16/04/2025 22:25

You are passing on your fears to her, which is terrible.

I bet you’re still eating grapes and cherry tomatoes when no one is around.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:22

LillyPJ · 16/04/2025 22:18

I think your instructions could be counter productive. She probably had no intention of eating cherry tomatoes or grapes etc but you've planted the idea in her mind now. At her age, I'd have disobeyed out of curiosity or rebellion! You know YABU so why not make an effort to stop?

She wont. We are both ..... wired differently (not diagnosed) and I have a few rules of hers that I follow for the same reason. We are a family of oddballs.

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Sofiewoo · 16/04/2025 22:22

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:17

He is built like a rugby player, she is tiny!

What is the relevance? Are wannabe rugby players less able to choke?

Soonenough · 16/04/2025 22:21

Would it help if you research the Himleich manoeuvre that you can do if you are alone when you choke . It involves bending over a chair. Get her to demonstrate it for you ?

Clarinet1 · 16/04/2025 22:21

Surely at 14 you can explain to her to chew these foods before swallowing?

Gettingacoffee · 16/04/2025 22:21

MyUmberSeal · 16/04/2025 22:05

Its sweet that she indulges you, but yeah, of course you are being unreasonable. Your daughter could be swigging packets of smarties and skittles back at school and you’d be none the wiser.

Can a 13 year old choke on those? (Genuine question)

I worry about grapes and things too OP.

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/04/2025 22:21

Tiswa · 16/04/2025 22:13

What did your friend choke on

This where the IABU really comes out....

(And is outing, so I apologise if anyone recognises this. He was my friend and his wife and I are good friends, I mean no disrespect)

It was a piece of sausage. They were having a chip shop dinner. It was so random and awful.

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Anonym00se · 16/04/2025 22:20

I really feel for you. I’ve had GAD in the past and I had exactly the same feelings about my children, I know exactly how terrifying it is. I’m very sorry about your friend.

But you CANNOT put your neurosis onto your dd, it is really unfair and will mess her up too. You need to see your GP and get this sorted. People die in all kinds of ways. If you don’t tackle this it will grow and you’ll end up fretting about her falling down the stairs, or drowning in the bath or a fire starting. It’s no way to live for either of you.

edwinbear · 16/04/2025 22:19

What if she agreed to cut them in half? Could that be a compromise? She sounds like she understands your fear, could you trust her to actually cut them?

EG94 · 16/04/2025 22:19

Sofiewoo · 16/04/2025 22:07

You can choke on almost any food.
A man died in a restaurant recently choking on a piece of chicken.

Well done! Chickens banned now!

@PyongyangKipperbang no joking aside maybe some therapy might help to try and rationalise your thoughts and fears