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AIBU yo not want this woman near my children

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Easterhols1 · 16/04/2025 21:25

*Excuse the typo in the title, sausage fingers 🙈
I realise I will probably get alot of “do whats best for the children” and “its not about you its about allowing your children to have opportunities” BUT how many of you would seriously consider not allowing someone access to your children for physically and verbally abusing their parents. Today my husband went against my wishes that his sister was not to take my children out anywhere on her own (I realise this may sound controlling but its really not) this came about after she physically abused my husband and verbally abused myself. She does not speak to me and will not acknowledge my existence. Today DC were with their grand parents as I had to work (my in laws) and she lives there as well. DH is there regularly and allowed her to take the children out despite my wishes that she was not to be left unsupervised with them. I am livid , I feel sick at the audacity of her after everything she has done and desperatley want to protect my children from her. AIBU to have these feelings (she said some god awful things to me, something along the lines of “fk off, your not needed or welcone here but give me your kids” I mean would anyone sane tolerate this??

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 17/04/2025 18:41

SpringIsCome · 17/04/2025 08:29

Daddy needs to be an independent adult- get a job like everyone else and stop sacrificing his children for a possible future inheritance.

Daddy has a job! It's called "farmer". It's way more than just a job too, it's a way of life!

Watermill · 17/04/2025 18:38

You either move away and DH farms elsewhere, or the DC do not go anywhere near the farm ever again.

You will say these options are impossible. So you will have to shut up and let ILS do whatever they want.

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 18:30

Tryinghardtobefair · 17/04/2025 16:36

My SIL is similar. We cut contact because she harassed my husband so much when he stood up to her that he ended up having to take time off work for anxiety. She also made allegations that I'm abusive and threatened to tell our daughter all about what a horrible person I secretly am and how I don't really care about DD. Our daughter has learning disabilities and is incredibly vulnerable. Being manipulated like that would devastate her.

My in-laws stance about her behaviour was "everybody has flaws". DH and DD went for dinner with our in law's and and MIL took her out to "get some bags", and gave her an advent calendar from SIL on the sly. Husband only found out it was from her when DD told him in the car because she'd been uncomfortable mentioning it.

We've since made it very VERY clear that when they see DD it will be supervised because their attitude shows we can't trust them to respect our wishes.

I have no advice unfortunately, only solidarity because these situations are so incredibly stressful ❤️

So sorry, what a horrible experience for you 💖 it is extremely stresfull. Family was always very important to me as I lost my own mother, so the hurt, anger and disappointment from this is huge x

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 17:39

Gretnaglebe · 17/04/2025 17:32

This is often the case with farming families. There’s a weird dynamic with the parents owning the farm, the son spending his life working for minimum wage because ‘one day all this will be yours’, other siblings either working on the farm or trying to get their hands on the land. When grandchildren come along the dynamic is even stranger. I’d suggest your husband does contracting for someone else if he wants to keep his family sane.

He did used to do some contracting and I have recently suggested this again to him.

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 17:34

whathaveiforgotten · 17/04/2025 16:35

Has she made a physical threat this time?

Well apparently im a “shit stiring whore” and next time she sees me she will “show her who’s boss and tear her a new a*hole” and I have also ruined everything and shes going to let the world know what I am.MIL has completely sided with SIL who is “lovely and does her best for the children” FIL is livid at her and believes shes about to bring generations upon generations of the family farm to an end.

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Gretnaglebe · 17/04/2025 17:32

This is often the case with farming families. There’s a weird dynamic with the parents owning the farm, the son spending his life working for minimum wage because ‘one day all this will be yours’, other siblings either working on the farm or trying to get their hands on the land. When grandchildren come along the dynamic is even stranger. I’d suggest your husband does contracting for someone else if he wants to keep his family sane.

Coconutter24 · 17/04/2025 16:44

Easterhols1 · 16/04/2025 21:52

DH is not happy he wants nothing to do with her but unfortunately his ties to the place means that he has to be there and she lives there, its awful.

He has to be there, your DC don’t. If you feel so strongly pay for childcare

Tryinghardtobefair · 17/04/2025 16:36

My SIL is similar. We cut contact because she harassed my husband so much when he stood up to her that he ended up having to take time off work for anxiety. She also made allegations that I'm abusive and threatened to tell our daughter all about what a horrible person I secretly am and how I don't really care about DD. Our daughter has learning disabilities and is incredibly vulnerable. Being manipulated like that would devastate her.

My in-laws stance about her behaviour was "everybody has flaws". DH and DD went for dinner with our in law's and and MIL took her out to "get some bags", and gave her an advent calendar from SIL on the sly. Husband only found out it was from her when DD told him in the car because she'd been uncomfortable mentioning it.

We've since made it very VERY clear that when they see DD it will be supervised because their attitude shows we can't trust them to respect our wishes.

I have no advice unfortunately, only solidarity because these situations are so incredibly stressful ❤️

whathaveiforgotten · 17/04/2025 16:35

Has she made a physical threat this time?

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 16:26

Im actually shaking and husband has come home shaking

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 16:23

5128gap · 17/04/2025 15:56

I'm not sure why you're sick at her audacity when she took the children out with their fathers permission? There is nothing you can do about this if your children's equal parent isn't on the same page, so your energies really need to be directed towards your H. Why did he allow this? Does he still fear her as a result of the abuse he suffered? Where do the parents stand? You trust them to do childcare, yet they are presumably doing nothing in the face of an abusive woman taking your DC out? You need a serious conversation with your H where you make some joint decisions about childcare you're comfortable with. Because there is no way you're going to be able to control your SiLs access while her parents have charge of your DC and their father stands by allowing it.

Ive posted a number of times that DH is very much against his sister and she did not ask or have anyones permission. The thing about this particular incident is that it feels like she “saw her chance” in that shes not had the chance to cross this boundary before, but saw her opportunity. Just to update DH has tackled his parents and Sister about the incident and things have been explosive to say the least leading to more threats from SIL. Thanks for all your advice. Never again will they be there after whats happened this pm.

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 16:22

You and your husband seem very passive in this situation, which is weird, because you're obviously very angry about this.

You both need to think long and hard about why 'farming' is seemingly more important than your children's potential safety and wellbeing. You're obviously angry (I would be too), so use that anger and change things.

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 16:06

5128gap · 17/04/2025 15:56

I'm not sure why you're sick at her audacity when she took the children out with their fathers permission? There is nothing you can do about this if your children's equal parent isn't on the same page, so your energies really need to be directed towards your H. Why did he allow this? Does he still fear her as a result of the abuse he suffered? Where do the parents stand? You trust them to do childcare, yet they are presumably doing nothing in the face of an abusive woman taking your DC out? You need a serious conversation with your H where you make some joint decisions about childcare you're comfortable with. Because there is no way you're going to be able to control your SiLs access while her parents have charge of your DC and their father stands by allowing it.

She did not have their fathers permission,

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5128gap · 17/04/2025 15:56

I'm not sure why you're sick at her audacity when she took the children out with their fathers permission? There is nothing you can do about this if your children's equal parent isn't on the same page, so your energies really need to be directed towards your H. Why did he allow this? Does he still fear her as a result of the abuse he suffered? Where do the parents stand? You trust them to do childcare, yet they are presumably doing nothing in the face of an abusive woman taking your DC out? You need a serious conversation with your H where you make some joint decisions about childcare you're comfortable with. Because there is no way you're going to be able to control your SiLs access while her parents have charge of your DC and their father stands by allowing it.

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 15:55

Nameychangington · 17/04/2025 15:48

But you/ your DH haven't enforced those boundaries. PIL and SIL aren't going to abide by them. So either they go there and never leave your/DHs side the whole time they're on the premises, or they don't go there. There's no other way to get what you want, they're not going to do what you want.

No they are not… this has all given me plenty, plenty to think about.

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Nameychangington · 17/04/2025 15:48

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 15:45

I don't accept her being around them, my boundaries were set and made very clear.

But you/ your DH haven't enforced those boundaries. PIL and SIL aren't going to abide by them. So either they go there and never leave your/DHs side the whole time they're on the premises, or they don't go there. There's no other way to get what you want, they're not going to do what you want.

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 15:48

Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 14:37

It doesn't have to be your DS's future. You're not born a farmer and farming is the only thing you can do for the rest of your life.

If that's genuinely how you feel, then you obviously need to accept your children being around these abusive people (which says a lot about you).

It does not have to no. But my DS wants it to be, he lives and breathes for it, his friends are little farmers in the yfc its his social group its what he is made of. Its an extremely difficult situation to navigate

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 15:45

Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 14:37

It doesn't have to be your DS's future. You're not born a farmer and farming is the only thing you can do for the rest of your life.

If that's genuinely how you feel, then you obviously need to accept your children being around these abusive people (which says a lot about you).

I don't accept her being around them, my boundaries were set and made very clear.

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Mama1980 · 17/04/2025 14:57

I think you either allow your dc to ‘go farming ’ with your husband and accept that he will not protect them from your SIL and wider family whilst they do - or they don’t go. It’s really that simple. I’m sorry it sound hideously difficult but your actual choice is simple.

toomuchfaff · 17/04/2025 14:43

Today DC were with their grand parents as I had to work (my in laws) and she lives there as well.

Looks like you need to stop utilising the GP free childcare and pay if you want any say whatsoever.

You can't dictate the woman isn't at her own goddamn house.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 14:37

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 13:52

What other job? Its not just a job its a whole way of life its in the blood. Its also our DS’s future…

It doesn't have to be your DS's future. You're not born a farmer and farming is the only thing you can do for the rest of your life.

If that's genuinely how you feel, then you obviously need to accept your children being around these abusive people (which says a lot about you).

Nameychangington · 17/04/2025 14:05

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 14:02

But this didn't happen out on the Farmyard, they went in for something to drink, MIL said leave them with me for a bit. thats when DH went back out, and saw from afar SIL taking them.

DH shouldn't have left the DC with his mother when he knows she supports SIL having them.

Against, PIL and SIL aren't going to change their behaviour or their opinions, DH isn't going to change his job so change the only thing you can which is that DC don't go there without you.

Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 14:02

Nameychangington · 17/04/2025 13:14

They're clearly not stuck like glue to anyone, if SIL was able to bundle them into a car.and take them away before DH was close enough to stop her.

If you want them to stop being exposed to your SIL then you will have to disappoint them and say they can't go there. There isn't another option, the PIL and SIL aren't going to change and it doesn't seem like your DH is going to change his job so you have to change the only thing you can, which is the DC going there without you.

But this didn't happen out on the Farmyard, they went in for something to drink, MIL said leave them with me for a bit. thats when DH went back out, and saw from afar SIL taking them.

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 13:58

Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 13:37

Then DH gets another job and stops being a farmer, surely? Your kids should come first.

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I asked if I was unreasonable to feel this way about SIL not to be told that DH should get another job…

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Easterhols1 · 17/04/2025 13:52

Bumblebeestiltskin · 17/04/2025 13:37

Then DH gets another job and stops being a farmer, surely? Your kids should come first.

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What other job? Its not just a job its a whole way of life its in the blood. Its also our DS’s future…

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