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For doctors to have hidden this from me?

136 replies

JustsamanthaJayne · 16/04/2025 18:28

So I've been ill for several years, symptoms have worsened since last year year
One of my symptoms is a facial spasm where my brain feels like it's squeezing and then my mouth goes to the side for a few seconds it's been worrying me
So I had an mri in 2018 they told me everything was fine and then had another mri in 2024 I was told i have an pineal gland cyst which is incidental
So i requested my medical records and on my 2018 mri report it said I have a small retention cyst in my right maxillary sinus ( this would explain why I've had so many sinus issues and now it could explain the facial issues as well) but they didn't tell me about it??
Now I've suddenly developed a pineal gland cysts but no mention of the right maxillary cyst on on my recent mri scan?? Did it just disappear?
I don't understand why I'm getting 'incidentental' cysts at random like this and doctors are not concerned about this ?
My folate is low again with no explanation ? I constantly drained and having horrible nurological symptoms
Am I being unreasonable to be dismissed like this ??

OP posts:
Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 08:10

prettytoxic · 17/04/2025 08:03

Right?! What an arrogant and dismissive statement to OP’s valid and understandable concerns. I say this as a healthcare professional myself!

Edited

The OP has had extensive investigations but is unable to be reassured by the trivial findings, which suggests health anxiety.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 08:08

Soontobe60 · 17/04/2025 08:07

Why is the term ‘hypochondria’ derogatory whereas ’health anxiety’ isn’t? They both mean the same thing.

Is retarded exactly the same as learning disabled? Do you use both terms interchangeably? Do you call mixed-race people coloured or half-caste because they "mean the same thing"?

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 08:07

prettytoxic · 17/04/2025 08:01

In an ideal scenario, yes. But things get missed in medical system, and patients have the right to advocate for themselves.

Advocating for oneself is best done in a medical setting, not on Mumsnet. People normally bring their anxieties here precisely because they're unable to accept the reassurance offered by their doctors.

Soontobe60 · 17/04/2025 08:07

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:31

Health anxiety is not hypochondria; you shouldn't be using such an outdated and derogatory term.

Why is the term ‘hypochondria’ derogatory whereas ’health anxiety’ isn’t? They both mean the same thing.

faerietales · 17/04/2025 08:06

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:53

Point is she needed those reassuring replies from the doctors. I can't comment on the specifics of her medical situation as I'm not a doctor and not qualified to do so. However, I am qualified to empathise with frustration at poor or non-existent communication from doctors that help create and exacerbate anxiety in the first place.

Doctors will see all sorts of things on scans and tests - if they’re not clinically significant then they won’t mention them to the patient - otherwise they’d be there for hours!

Human bodies are “strange” - no two will be exactly alike and every single one of us will have random things show up on scans, but that doesn’t mean that we need to know about them or that they’re relevant to our symptoms or health.

There’s a reason why you need medical training to understand test results.

Neemie · 17/04/2025 08:04

A lot of things are not necessarily indications of anything to worry about. In my experience, good doctors tend to be open with patients and very willing to discuss test results but the system doesn’t always allow for this to happen.

prettytoxic · 17/04/2025 08:03

PremiumD · 17/04/2025 07:58

Aside from the fact you’re ignoring the potentially neurological symptoms that drove her to seek answers to begin with, what’s your intention with this question?

Right?! What an arrogant and dismissive statement to OP’s valid and understandable concerns. I say this as a healthcare professional myself!

prettytoxic · 17/04/2025 08:01

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:41

If an incidental finding is significant, it will be acted upon; in your case it's clearly not significant.

In an ideal scenario, yes. But things get missed in medical system, and patients have the right to advocate for themselves.

PremiumD · 17/04/2025 07:58

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:28

Do you have health anxiety?

Aside from the fact you’re ignoring the potentially neurological symptoms that drove her to seek answers to begin with, what’s your intention with this question?

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:58

HeySugarSugar · 17/04/2025 07:56

Hypochondria was a medical word that became derogatory - I don’t use it because it’s outdated.

Supposedly neutral, medical words become slurs over time - eg retarded, spastic, idiot. We shouldn't use them, which was the whole point of my reply. It seems we agree 🙌

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:58

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:55

You don't know what communication she's had with her doctors. Feeding into her anxiety like that is cruel, not empathetic.

How on earth am I feeding into her anxiety by saying I understand her frustration?

Whatever axe you have to grind, I think picking on my measured response where I simply acknowledge her current frustration is a bit bizarre.

Wanting a full picture of what is going on with your brain is hardly a big ask, and could have been handled better.

sorrynotathome · 17/04/2025 07:57

Cysts are very common and you can have them virtually anywhere. As others have said, this is not an issue and OP should focus on asking for help with her symptoms, not looking to punish someone.

HoppingPavlova · 17/04/2025 07:56

It’s incidental. If you go through every incidental finding with patients, you’d be all day with one. Incidental = not worth mentioning. It’s not ‘keeping information from me’, that’s bizarre, why would a health professional want to do this, they don’t. Human bodies get all sorts of lumps and bumps and stuff, doesn’t necessarily mean any of it’s a problem though, so you just get told if it IS a problem.

PremiumD · 17/04/2025 07:56

AmusedGoose · 17/04/2025 03:02

Cysts can come and go. Do you get anxious a lot?

She has neurological symptoms. Do you get condescending a lot?

HeySugarSugar · 17/04/2025 07:56

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:53

No, it's not the same. Hypochondria is derogatory, health anxiety is a descriptor. People don't choose to have health anxiety. Do you use other slurs too because "they're exactly the same?".

Hypochondria was a medical word that became derogatory - I don’t use it because it’s outdated.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:55

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:53

Point is she needed those reassuring replies from the doctors. I can't comment on the specifics of her medical situation as I'm not a doctor and not qualified to do so. However, I am qualified to empathise with frustration at poor or non-existent communication from doctors that help create and exacerbate anxiety in the first place.

You don't know what communication she's had with her doctors. Feeding into her anxiety like that is cruel, not empathetic.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:53

HeySugarSugar · 17/04/2025 07:52

Yes it is. It used to be called hypochondria now it’s called health anxiety - the same thing.

No, it's not the same. Hypochondria is derogatory, health anxiety is a descriptor. People don't choose to have health anxiety. Do you use other slurs too because "they're exactly the same?".

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:53

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:50

Did you read any of the reassuring replies OP has had? Or are you just looking to feed her anxiety?

Point is she needed those reassuring replies from the doctors. I can't comment on the specifics of her medical situation as I'm not a doctor and not qualified to do so. However, I am qualified to empathise with frustration at poor or non-existent communication from doctors that help create and exacerbate anxiety in the first place.

HeySugarSugar · 17/04/2025 07:52

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:31

Health anxiety is not hypochondria; you shouldn't be using such an outdated and derogatory term.

Yes it is. It used to be called hypochondria now it’s called health anxiety - the same thing.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:50

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:48

OP you have my sympathy.

While "Not All Doctors" unfortunately there are a good cohort that seem to come under the banner of a joke that has stuck with me after decades of medical obfuscation and arrogance, applied not just to myself but numerous family and friends:

"What's the difference between Gid and a doctor?"

"God doesn't think he's a doctor".

The prevailing attitude of some that patients should not question or be pro-active in health care processes leads to loss of trust and poor outcomes that could have been avoided by clearer communication leading to mutual respect.

I hope you can get to the bottom of this.

This immediate leap to "it's psychological" in so many scenarios is condescending and breeds animosity, and is often a useful tool in the "avoiding accountability" handbook of too many professionals / authority figures.

Did you read any of the reassuring replies OP has had? Or are you just looking to feed her anxiety?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 17/04/2025 07:48

OP you have my sympathy.

While "Not All Doctors" unfortunately there are a good cohort that seem to come under the banner of a joke that has stuck with me after decades of medical obfuscation and arrogance, applied not just to myself but numerous family and friends:

"What's the difference between Gid and a doctor?"

"God doesn't think he's a doctor".

The prevailing attitude of some that patients should not question or be pro-active in health care processes leads to loss of trust and poor outcomes that could have been avoided by clearer communication leading to mutual respect.

I hope you can get to the bottom of this.

This immediate leap to "it's psychological" in so many scenarios is condescending and breeds animosity, and is often a useful tool in the "avoiding accountability" handbook of too many professionals / authority figures.

TheAmusedLimePanda · 17/04/2025 07:42

I have a pineal gland cyst that was found during a head CT for something else. I was referred to neurosurgery. I was told that they are super common and usually are discovered when under investigation for something else.

I was under them for 3 years and got yearly MRI’s to check if it got bigger, it didn’t. It did it smaller to the point they wouldn’t even see me now if it had been discovered today.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:41

If an incidental finding is significant, it will be acted upon; in your case it's clearly not significant.

faerietales · 17/04/2025 07:33

Patients aren’t trained to interpret clinical findings and can place significance on things which are trivial. It’s easy to see something on a scan and assume it’s significant when in reality, it’s an incidental finding and unrelated to the reason you had the scan.

No good will come of you trying to interpret complex medical data you haven’t been trained to read.

^^ this.

Patients are not meant to understand all their medical notes.

Smallmercies · 17/04/2025 07:31

ItsUpToYou · 17/04/2025 07:27

The tone of some of these posts seem to imply that OP is a hypochondriac when her symptoms are clearly quite worrying.

What would be helpful is if there were some sort of disclaimer on the reports explaining to patients what is meant by “incidental findings”. This would put patients’ minds at rest and save time for doctors who have to explain this to patients who are, understandably, panicking.

Edited

Health anxiety is not hypochondria; you shouldn't be using such an outdated and derogatory term.