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Sunbed Shock

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SansaStark90 · 16/04/2025 17:09

I’ve been really stupid and gone on the sunbed for twenty minutes and the burns I’ve got - I’ve never seen skin as red. I’ve got like indents to my skin as though I’ve woken to stretch marks on my chest. Will these disappear? I’m in agony. I’ve never burnt and so didn’t know it could cause this kind of pain. I’m shaking shivering. I did this yesterday. Can someone reassure my health anxiety that these indents will all calm down?

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CheeseAndHamToastieAndCrisps · 18/04/2025 10:04

But have you been back to a&e?

Threads like this drive me to despair, there is always so much misinformation it’s no wonder people treat any number of medical problems incorrectly. Every burn/rash/temperature/chicken pox thread is the same.

crumblingschools · 18/04/2025 10:02

What treatment have you ended up with. Surely MNHQ just delete the seriously wrong suggestions and the thread can stay up

TheFormidableMrsC · 18/04/2025 09:59

SansaStark90 · 18/04/2025 09:57

I will delete. That wasn’t my aim, I wanted reassurance. I would hope this puts anyone off using one though as never mind the long term damage I have done, I thought I was a tough cookie and this has floored me. Maybe the worst experience I’ve had

Did you go back to A&E?

Hoppinggreen · 18/04/2025 09:59

SansaStark90 · 18/04/2025 09:57

I will delete. That wasn’t my aim, I wanted reassurance. I would hope this puts anyone off using one though as never mind the long term damage I have done, I thought I was a tough cookie and this has floored me. Maybe the worst experience I’ve had

Please don't think I was criticising you OP, I wasn't and I know that you wanted advice and hopefully you got it and you are OK

XelaM · 18/04/2025 09:58

Please go back to A&E

SansaStark90 · 18/04/2025 09:57

Hoppinggreen · 18/04/2025 09:52

I agree, anything that promotes sunbed use should be removed.
To be fair there HAS been some decent advice on here as well but too many comments saying how to use them safely, you can't, they are inherently unsafe

I will delete. That wasn’t my aim, I wanted reassurance. I would hope this puts anyone off using one though as never mind the long term damage I have done, I thought I was a tough cookie and this has floored me. Maybe the worst experience I’ve had

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Hoppinggreen · 18/04/2025 09:52

BodenCardiganNot · 18/04/2025 09:34

At this stage I think MN should delete this thread. There is so much ill-informed information.

I agree, anything that promotes sunbed use should be removed.
To be fair there HAS been some decent advice on here as well but too many comments saying how to use them safely, you can't, they are inherently unsafe

BodenCardiganNot · 18/04/2025 09:34

At this stage I think MN should delete this thread. There is so much ill-informed information.

TeaRoseTallulah · 18/04/2025 08:33

Booboobagins · 18/04/2025 00:19

Eat loads of tomatoes. Put aloe vera and/or olive oil all over your skin. Drink plenty of fluids - if you have hydrating salts add them to your water. Keep warm - and dock and bay towel may be good if you have one. It keeps off the chill without overheating you.

Call 111. You have 2nd degree burns.

Good luck.

The shop should be reported tbh but you've enough on without doing that right now.

Do NOT put anything over burns especially not oil. The advice on this thread is shocking.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 18/04/2025 08:18

You poor thing. I can’t believe people are giving you a hard time. We all make mistakes. How are you feeling today?

BloominNora · 18/04/2025 08:06

bfc1980 · 18/04/2025 02:56

Your post which seems to play down the risk of melanoma is extremely dangerous and quite frankly stupid.
NOBODY SHOULD LISTN TO YOU!

The overall survival rate is around 94% which is relatively high. However that's only because it's the easiest cancer to detect at it's early stages. Changes to moles etc that are visible. Once it's at stage 3 or 4, it spreads rapidly and is difficult to treat. Even at stage 2, the wide area excision can be large and even with skin grafts, you're still left with scars.

These are what I'm left with after being diagnosed with stage 2 melanoma and then stage 0 in a different place.

That looks nasty and I hope you are in full remission now.

DH didn't have to have a skin graft but he has a massive scar on his back and still suffers from pain under his arm where they took a lymph node for biopsy.

Hopefully you won't have to go through it again!

BloominNora · 18/04/2025 07:52

@abs12 and @bfc1980

I am not minimising anything at all.

And yes - I researched the statistics but didn't just Google and quote the first numbers I saw - I went into depth on the cancer research site to properly understand what the baseline was and therefore what the increased risk meant in reality to try and cut through the hyperbole and fear mongering from people who were making up numbers to scare an already worried OP.

I work with data every day to support decision making in an area which can have a massive impact on thousands of lives and cost millions. Properly using data to understand risk and impact is absolutely crucial to deciding what action needs to be taken - whether it is a multi-million pound decision, what factor suncream to use or whether or not to eat bacon.

I'm not saying there is no risk and everyone should crack on and use sunbeds or sunbathe until they go mahogany.

I'm just trying to put the risks into context so people can make informed choices.

I am fully aware that melanoma is brutal. Of the four people I know who have had it, one is dead from secondary cancer years after their original stage 2 melanoma was successfully treated, two are immediate relatives and I'm married to the other. Two of the three I'm related to were stage 2 and have significant scarring and ongoing issues from the cutaway biopsies.

I also know, because I've taken the time to properly understand the risk factors, that having had two immediate relatives who've developed it, suffered a lot of sunburn when I was younger AND that I have a lot of moles, that my persobal risk for it is increased making me very aware of the signs to look for. I have already had one (thankfully benign) biopsy on a suspicious mole and fully suspect I will need more in the future.

My kids also have increased risk factors due to the genetic link, and obviously DH having already had it, so we are also very very careful about using suncream in our household.

I don't know what my personal risk % is exactly but it is higher than that of someone who doesn't have those same factors so a 50% increase for me would be more significant than a 50% increase for someone who has no genetic factors, has never been burned by the sun but has used sunbeds a couple of times.

Scientific peer reviewed is exactly where the data that I used came from and it is so important to put it into context.

For example - @abs12 you said that getting sunburned under 5 doubles the risk of melanoma. That is true but what does it mean for a worried parent, with health anxiety, whose child burnt their shoulders while playing in the garden? It could really cause them to panic, feel guilty, become hypervigilant without context.

What you didn't say is it is specifically blistering sunburn that doubles the risk not a mild burn that goes within a day or two. You also didn't say what it doubles the risk from and to? Doubling of a 0.5% risk is very different to doubling a 20% risk and understing personal risk factors is vital in that regard.

In the case of our hypothetical parent above re-assurance that they shouldnt worry and don't need to inspect every mole on their child's body for the next 10 years and gentle advice to cover up / keep topped up with suncream is much more relevant and helpful than talking % increases in risk.

Hyperbole around health statistics is a massive problem. Constant media headlines which scream about common, everyday things doubling or tripling risks to cancer without stating what that means in reality desensitises people to the point where they don't take any notice - even when a real and significant risk comes along.

ToutesetBonne · 18/04/2025 07:35

An A&E receptionist would be at risk of losing their job if they gave any medical advice.

TemporaryName123 · 18/04/2025 06:31

OP you sound quite ill and being delirious is not a symptom to be ignored with the level of burn you seem to have. I really hope you have got to a&e and are being looked after

Tricho · 18/04/2025 05:01

You know what did help me actually

Acv

Tricho · 18/04/2025 05:00

Jesus wept

I remember doing 10 fresh as a young foolish person.

I woke up at 3am in agony and op, tge recovery wasn't pretty

It was a week of lying down, applying aloe vera, trying not to move,

then I got covered in hundreds of tiny Water blisters that, whilst not painful, soaked my clothes as they popped when I moved.

Then I peeled. A lot. As in I left a trail.

Honestly the worst two weeks of my life abd I learnt a valuable lesson.

As you will too.

As you did double my time (christ alive) I'd honestly go to ozzy

Remaker · 18/04/2025 03:41

OP I hope you get better treatment from your second trip to A&E.

A word of caution with trusting ‘people from hot countries’ for sunburn advice. Someone from Australia advised coconut oil - this is terrible advice! Someone else from Australia says they’ve been using tomatoes for years. I’m in my 50s and have never heard of tomatoes treating sunburn. There is some evidence that eating them can provide some protection and anecdotes about it soothing minor burns but it certainly doesn’t appear in any official medical recommendations!

My uncle died from one and I have a 30 year old relative who is stage 4 and not responding to treatment. Young people can and do die from melanoma.

abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:57

BloominNora · 17/04/2025 13:00

This is so dramatic and also incorrect.

The misunderstanding of these types of statistics is a real bug bear of mine (and I use examples of it and how small risks are hyped up with scary statistics - particularly in the press - in some training that I have developed around understanding data)

Melanoma risk is 2.44% (1 in 41 women in the UK).

Use of sunbeds increases the risk by between 16% and 25% - but the statistics for this don't differentiate between how often the sunbed is used so will include heavy users as well as those who use it once.

For women who first use a sunbed under the age of 35 risk increases by 59%.

What that means in reality is that the general risk increases to 3.05% (1 in 33) or for women who first use a sunbed before the age of 35 it's 3.88% (1 in 26)

It sounds a lot, but when you take into account that this is a lifetime risk, the peak age for diagnosis is in those over 80 and the survival rate is 87.4% it really is not a huge risk.

The risk of actually dying from Melanoma is just 0.489% (1 in 204)

For context, the risk of getting into a serious road traffic accident and being killed or seriously injured is 3.44% (1 in 29) - higher than the melanoma risk.

So please can people stop quoting inflated statistics and making terrifying claims about the risks of melanoma! No wonder people have such health anxiety about things these days!

@bloominnora Stop. Anyone can copy and paste Google stats, not to mention manipulate for their own cause and ego. You are minimising sunburn, sunbeds, and the utter brutality of melanoma. People need to be shocked, sometimes that is the only way to penetrate a person's thinking and keep them safe. The reality is that when a person has such a diagnosis it is often enough too late for that shock... They wish they'd had the wake up call earlier, prior to putting themselves at risk

There is scientific, peer-reviewed research that clearly states melanoma risk factors. These include being sunburnt under five years old which doubles melanoma risk. As an adult, five times doubles the risk. It doesn't mean you'll get it, but what if you do? So unless you are a specialist who grew up under that massive hole in the ozone layer, enough.

As for your four people with melanoma and no sunbeds. Is it family? Close friends? A neighbour's cousin's stepson? A workmate from 20 years ago? Four celebrities? A friend of a friend? What about all the other friends of friends or celebrities or workmates and those inbetween that have also had melanoma, but from sunbeds, you don't even know about? It's hardly relative or reliable is it? Stats work both ways. Your point is moot.

bfc1980 · 18/04/2025 02:56

BloominNora · 17/04/2025 13:00

This is so dramatic and also incorrect.

The misunderstanding of these types of statistics is a real bug bear of mine (and I use examples of it and how small risks are hyped up with scary statistics - particularly in the press - in some training that I have developed around understanding data)

Melanoma risk is 2.44% (1 in 41 women in the UK).

Use of sunbeds increases the risk by between 16% and 25% - but the statistics for this don't differentiate between how often the sunbed is used so will include heavy users as well as those who use it once.

For women who first use a sunbed under the age of 35 risk increases by 59%.

What that means in reality is that the general risk increases to 3.05% (1 in 33) or for women who first use a sunbed before the age of 35 it's 3.88% (1 in 26)

It sounds a lot, but when you take into account that this is a lifetime risk, the peak age for diagnosis is in those over 80 and the survival rate is 87.4% it really is not a huge risk.

The risk of actually dying from Melanoma is just 0.489% (1 in 204)

For context, the risk of getting into a serious road traffic accident and being killed or seriously injured is 3.44% (1 in 29) - higher than the melanoma risk.

So please can people stop quoting inflated statistics and making terrifying claims about the risks of melanoma! No wonder people have such health anxiety about things these days!

Your post which seems to play down the risk of melanoma is extremely dangerous and quite frankly stupid.
NOBODY SHOULD LISTN TO YOU!

The overall survival rate is around 94% which is relatively high. However that's only because it's the easiest cancer to detect at it's early stages. Changes to moles etc that are visible. Once it's at stage 3 or 4, it spreads rapidly and is difficult to treat. Even at stage 2, the wide area excision can be large and even with skin grafts, you're still left with scars.

These are what I'm left with after being diagnosed with stage 2 melanoma and then stage 0 in a different place.

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bfc1980 · 18/04/2025 02:27

You'll eventually recover from this. But your biggest threat is malignant melanoma. It could take 10, 20 years to develop so you need to be extra vigilant of any changes to moles, new moles appearing or any other changes to your skin during that time. Visible changes to moles can be quite gradual so it may be difficult to notice. Take photos of all existing moles to compare later down the line or even better go for a skin check and have them all photographed.

Many British people don't think about melanoma as being a threat to them but trust me it is. My 12 year old son had to have the top part of his ear cut off due to it (stage 0 or in situ) and I had to have a 3in x 2in oval shaped part of my calf cut off (stage 2) and then at my next skin check, some of my shin cut off (stage 0). All this within the space of 4 months.

Stage 0, 1 and 2 are fairly simple to treat with surgery.
Stage 3 and 4 though, if it gets this far, life is not easy.

  • Stage 0 (In Situ): 99.9% 5-year survival.
  • Stage I: 89-95% 5-year survival.
  • Stage II: 45-79% 5-year survival.
  • Stage III: 24-70% 5-year survival.
  • Stage IV: 7-19% 5-year survival.
abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:25

MrsSlocombesCat · 17/04/2025 12:37

I got a melanoma on my hand from sitting in a pub garden. On one single occasion. We were sitting under a parasol but my right arm was exposed and got burnt. A mole appeared on my right hand, I noticed it but wasn't sure if it had always been there and I had just noticed it because it had gone a funny colour. But I found a picture of me the year before where I was holding a bottle of Oasis in my right hand and there was no mole. Two doctors said it was fine before I was finally referred, and luckily after initial removal confirmed it was malignant I had to have a wide excision and skin graft to make sure they had got it all. So in the end I was fine but I couldn't believe one sunburn experience had given me cancer. Fwiw mixing some aloe Vera gel with Ibuprofen gel is really good for sunburn.

Please don't be hard on yourself though. Remember some have higher risk factors than others and melanoma can develop anywhere on the skin, especially in areas with little to no sun exposure, as a result of sun exposure elsewhere. I think you're blessed you persisted and caught it early. Now you can keep yourself safe through regular checks and care in the sun, as we should all do 🙏

abs12 · 18/04/2025 02:01

Aloe vera gel. We can't keep saying it enough. If you can find a plant, even better.

But bloody hell I hope you're feeling better in the morning.

Nat6999 · 18/04/2025 01:50

Germaloids pile cream, it contains lidocaine which will at least numb the pain & the other ingredients are anti inflammatory which should help with the redness & swelling.

TheFormidableMrsC · 18/04/2025 01:41

Codlingmoths · 18/04/2025 00:50

Op, when better you should take your photos to the sun bed place because honestly it was their responsibility to warn and monitor. They’ve been grossly negligent. These things are illegal in Australia because of the cancer risk.
the reason this is such a big deal burn wise is because it’s so much of your skin. Your skin is your body’s biggest organ, and it regulates a lot of your temperature etc. Now a lot of it is damaged, so your body is both injured and the rest of it is struggling to manage without your skin doing its job. If you had the same burn on a few square inches the rest of you would be fine. I’m sorry you’ve been fobbed off by Doctors. If your temp gets worse or any sign of infection in the burn go straight to A&E.

She’s been to A&E. Doctor couldn’t understand her so he gave her codeine and sent her home. She said she’s going back.

Codlingmoths · 18/04/2025 00:50

Op, when better you should take your photos to the sun bed place because honestly it was their responsibility to warn and monitor. They’ve been grossly negligent. These things are illegal in Australia because of the cancer risk.
the reason this is such a big deal burn wise is because it’s so much of your skin. Your skin is your body’s biggest organ, and it regulates a lot of your temperature etc. Now a lot of it is damaged, so your body is both injured and the rest of it is struggling to manage without your skin doing its job. If you had the same burn on a few square inches the rest of you would be fine. I’m sorry you’ve been fobbed off by Doctors. If your temp gets worse or any sign of infection in the burn go straight to A&E.

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