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1BodyProblem · 16/04/2025 13:12

NC. I think society is very inclusive these days and as a larger lady I don't come up against many issues. There are however some sticking points (literally) which I've decided just need to be acknowledged but can't be solved. I recently went to an away game at a championship football ground and quite frankly I couldn't get through the turnstile gate. It was an old metal gate, probably built before the second world war and just couldn't accommodate me. I had to find an alternative entrance but as you can imagine, it was embarrassing and there were some laddy jeers from those queueing. I would quite frankly like to have been bluntly warned before even attempting the gate "not for large fans" or similar instead of risking my circumference squeezing through unnecessarily. It's the same for some theatre seats at old venues. Just tell me before I book this is not for big people. Anyone agree ?

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1BodyProblem · 16/04/2025 21:10

Some good tips guys. Life can be so risky at my circumference! 😂 I like the idea of the 'trial seat' outside a ride. As for using my eyes and judgement... You can't see the turnstile at these grounds before you are in it!

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Iammatrix · 16/04/2025 20:38

Cursory · 16/04/2025 17:57

I thought it was obvious but maybe not. I was mocking the condescending and unpleasant attitudes on MN towards plus sized women and the rampant pro-ana culture on here by suggesting that MN can be an unsympathetic place to be if you’re fat.

I know!

OtterInABlueTie · 16/04/2025 18:15

DinoLil · 16/04/2025 13:17

I'm of a larger build around the middle and also faced a similar thing at a football match. Sort of luckily, I need to use a stick if I'm going to be standing for a while so had that with me. An official saw me with it and kindly ushered me through a gate before I got to the turnstile!

I use a stick and I'm of a larger build (size 22-24). I went to rugby game recently and applied for a disabled pass so I didn't have to deal with this or the stairs/standing for any length of time . I was out in the wheelchair area. Something to maybe consider for the future if you go again?

Cursory · 16/04/2025 17:57

Iammatrix · 16/04/2025 14:04

I totally get the context of the post! It hasn’t happened. Which is good, yes there is the potential for it to happen. I know! But just as @Cursory has done, and that there are those that would jump on with the negative comments that the post alludes to, there is also on the first few posts of certain types of thread those that jump on as @Cursory does with such sentiments.

I thought it was obvious but maybe not. I was mocking the condescending and unpleasant attitudes on MN towards plus sized women and the rampant pro-ana culture on here by suggesting that MN can be an unsympathetic place to be if you’re fat.

SwanOfThoseThings · 16/04/2025 16:38

SchnizelVonKrumm · 16/04/2025 13:52

What do you mean? The poster was surely just pointing out the faux-naive responses that threads like this receive - as though it simply hadn't occurred to people to try to "eat less, move more" and that it's not that simple for many people.

In terms of how to warn people tactfully, if this is a regular problem for fans they could perhaps have a note on the booking system somewhere along the lines of "please note the turnstiles in Gates B and C have a width of Xcm. Wider turnstiles are available at Gates A and D" (ie a neutral note about the space, not making it about the size of the person).

This - just make it factual, quoting measurements and directions to larger gates. Then people can either measure themselves or just head for the larger gates if they know they're likely to have problems. No mess, no fuss, no drama.

slamdunk66 · 16/04/2025 16:18

I’m about a size 10/12 and went to a concert at emirates stadium and the seats were tiny and luckily I was next to me dh on one side and a friend on the other as it was very cosy!

Rainydaysandwellybobs · 16/04/2025 15:52

I have found a way to beat the system......just be tall!
I am 5'10 with a larger middle and slimmer legs, usually if I stand briefly on my tip toes to lift my belly up I can squeeze my legs through 😂
I hate roller coaster rides but the few times my kids have managed to drag me to a theme park I seem to just about fit in, I think its because I have relatively small boobs for a big un!!!
So, to summarise, if you are short stand in fertiliser until you grow and if you have larger bossom strap them down tight before you go anywhere!!!

Hastentoadd · 16/04/2025 15:35

1BodyProblem · 16/04/2025 13:12

NC. I think society is very inclusive these days and as a larger lady I don't come up against many issues. There are however some sticking points (literally) which I've decided just need to be acknowledged but can't be solved. I recently went to an away game at a championship football ground and quite frankly I couldn't get through the turnstile gate. It was an old metal gate, probably built before the second world war and just couldn't accommodate me. I had to find an alternative entrance but as you can imagine, it was embarrassing and there were some laddy jeers from those queueing. I would quite frankly like to have been bluntly warned before even attempting the gate "not for large fans" or similar instead of risking my circumference squeezing through unnecessarily. It's the same for some theatre seats at old venues. Just tell me before I book this is not for big people. Anyone agree ?

I really think it’s down to you to look into it before you go, you are aware that you are larger than most and you have come across these issues in the past so you need to prepare yourself
Seats in planes / theatres cater for the vast majority of people but they can’t make all seats / turnstiles bigger just to accommodate a small number of people

Its just a sad reality of being a larger person

QueefQueen80s · 16/04/2025 15:29

Anon765898 · 16/04/2025 14:11

I recently went to the theatre, quite an old one. It’s not my thing at all but a relative had free tickets so asked me to go. I’m a size 22ish and I only just fit into the seat😱

I go with someone who is a size 30 and we have to get aisle seats so she can at least spread a bit but it’s very cosy even for me as a size 12

Shmee1988 · 16/04/2025 15:13

springbringshope · 16/04/2025 15:01

Hellyes. I’m 5’3” 125lb and I struggle. I have no idea how anyone bigger copes. There is nowhere for the body to go whilst closing the door. You end up sort of straddling the loo to shut the door

Yo😐u struggle at 8stone 9lbs? Sorry but how? How must be tiny. Sorry, I'm not being unkind I'm genuinely baffled

ttcat37 · 16/04/2025 15:13

It sounds like you could have done with knowing the dimensions of the turnstile in advance. “Please note, max width of turnstile is XX cm. Alternative accessible gate of XX cm available”

springbringshope · 16/04/2025 15:02

Iammatrix · 16/04/2025 13:44

Was your attempt at irony really an attempt to undercut empathy?

I think you’ve completely mis read this message

springbringshope · 16/04/2025 15:01

Dahliasrule · 16/04/2025 13:34

And what about those tiny toilet cubicles when you have to squeeze yourself behind and to the side to get in.

Hellyes. I’m 5’3” 125lb and I struggle. I have no idea how anyone bigger copes. There is nowhere for the body to go whilst closing the door. You end up sort of straddling the loo to shut the door

godmum56 · 16/04/2025 14:53

fatphalange · 16/04/2025 14:19

Would it not to better to trust people to use their eyes and judgement than to risk the humiliation and potential uproar of literally having signs up saying 'please don't attempt to squeeze into these seats or those turnstiles as you are too fat'?!

Except by that point they are there?

Pomegranatecarnage · 16/04/2025 14:33

Last time I went to Alton Towers I noticed that there was a “trial seat” (not sure of the correct terminology!) in an unobtrusive corner near the ride. I saw some “people of size” trying it out in a very matter of fact way. I thought it was a good idea. I regularly go to the theatre (it’s 100 years old) and see some very large people looking quite uncomfortable.

Icanttakethisanymore · 16/04/2025 14:27

I guess the issue is, how do you make any signage useful to people? Your ability to fit though the turnstile depends on your girth. Someone could be heavier / larger than you but due to their shape might fit through just fine. They could put the width of the gap I suppose. Would that have been useful do you think?

fatphalange · 16/04/2025 14:20

Be* better

fatphalange · 16/04/2025 14:19

Would it not to better to trust people to use their eyes and judgement than to risk the humiliation and potential uproar of literally having signs up saying 'please don't attempt to squeeze into these seats or those turnstiles as you are too fat'?!

Iammatrix · 16/04/2025 14:17

Anon765898 · 16/04/2025 14:11

I recently went to the theatre, quite an old one. It’s not my thing at all but a relative had free tickets so asked me to go. I’m a size 22ish and I only just fit into the seat😱

Sorry that you had to experience that! It is important that this is discussed and brought out into the open.

Did you contact the venue and make them aware? They do have a duty to provide access and seating to everyone but if people don’t contact the venue every time this happens nothing will change.

Some airlines do have ‘customer of size’ policies.

Lovemycat2023 · 16/04/2025 14:16

You could try the seat review website to see what people say about that particular theatre? Some are very uncomfortable for anyone with longer legs etc.

Was it the turnstiles at Luton?

Anon765898 · 16/04/2025 14:11

I recently went to the theatre, quite an old one. It’s not my thing at all but a relative had free tickets so asked me to go. I’m a size 22ish and I only just fit into the seat😱

Maitri108 · 16/04/2025 14:10

I'm sorry to hear that happened to you OP. I agree that there should be some notice on the website informing people that there are alternative entrances if you are over a certain size. They should have these for cinema, planes, theatre and other places which can only accommodate up to a certain size.

henlake7 · 16/04/2025 14:09

I can see your point OP but it would be abit awkward to mention. Maybe venues don't want to be accused of fat shaming.
And the further back you go the smaller people were....just look at a spiral stair in a medieval castle! Built for dormice!

CopperWhite · 16/04/2025 14:08

I think the responsibility to find out if something is suitable for you lies with you, not the venues you want to use.

SchnizelVonKrumm · 16/04/2025 14:06

Iammatrix · 16/04/2025 14:04

I totally get the context of the post! It hasn’t happened. Which is good, yes there is the potential for it to happen. I know! But just as @Cursory has done, and that there are those that would jump on with the negative comments that the post alludes to, there is also on the first few posts of certain types of thread those that jump on as @Cursory does with such sentiments.

Oh I see, sorry!

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