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What does "Parking on premises" mean to you? Air B&B problem ...

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/04/2025 10:01

Unashamedly posting here for honest opinions, based on the main question in the title

Background is that I'm on holiday with a friend, in an apartment situated in an area where street parking's well known to be almost impossible

We were therefore extremely careful to source a place that actually had it, and checked with the owner before booking that it really was provided - only to find on arrival that it isn't, and all that's available is (non existent) street parking meaning that we hardly dare go anywhere because returning means driving around ( over 2 hours yesterday Sad) in the hope of finding a space

Obviously we've contacted the owner, only to be told we've "misinterpreted it" and street parking counts as being on the premises

So my question is whether or not we were BU to expect what the listing said, and if not what would anyone else do now? What we really want to do is leave the hassle behind and ask Air B&B to sort a refund based on misrepresentation, but I'd welcome thoughts before doing this

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Plmnki · 17/04/2025 20:46

This is why we stay in hotels - as they are answerable to their customers. Air BnB don’t care about customers.

have a think about the other air bnb cisutomers are taking up all the street parking and massively pissing off the locals who have to put up with this in their area.

so - stay in a hotel next time ?

anon666 · 17/04/2025 19:59

This sort of thing is unacceptable. We had a similar thing with details in listings on Airbnb.

When we went to Provence in August, I was adamant we had to have aircon. This was having been to South France before and nearly dying of heat exhaustion (not exaggerating, I think it was a combination of medication, mobile home and heatwave). It's accumulated over a number of days, and I was very ill. Completely ruined the holiday.

This house said it had air-conditioning. We arrived and searched high and low, then queried it with the agent. She then said the owner was out of contact but they would get back to us the next morning.

Then proceeded a series of incomprehensible messages in French, which led me to believe I had just not found it.

Eventually I realised that she meant the stone floors were "natural" air conditioning.

I was livid. We were yet again in the South of France, no air con. It was dangerous.

Yes, to be fair, I probably shouldn't have gone at all to that part of the world at that time of year. So I'm not blaming them 100%. Still annoying though.

Frostynoman · 17/04/2025 19:38

They’re in the wrong which they clearly know

What does "Parking on premises" mean to you?    Air B&B problem ...
YDBear · 17/04/2025 19:07

Parking on premises means there is a private off-street area to park in. It absolutely does not mean parking on the street. In fact is the very opposite of parking in the street. You were obviously ripped off by the false description given and I would be playing hell with the booker and thinking about legal redress—a “letter before action” at least. Screenshot all the material advertising this place you can find. Obviously keep your correspondence, take photos of the reality, and prepare for battle.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 16:03

I know it's normally the mn rules to post a picture with a parking thread but I don't think it'd work on this one

You're quite right, @ScottBakula; all it would show is local streets absolutely rammed with cars - some of tthem already illegally parked - and a garden area behind the "entrance gates" which can't be used for a car because it's jam packed with dead shrubs and heaps of stones

To my mind the obvious thing would be to clear the shrubs, etc, and use the quite wide entrance for its obvious purpose, but then it's not my property so not my decision to make

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ScottBakula · 17/04/2025 15:49

Chemenger · 16/04/2025 10:04

Of what? The OP driving round looking for a parking space?

I was thinking this too, I know it's normally the mn rules to post a picture with a parking thread but I don't think it'd work on this one.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 14:55

Jungfraujoch · 17/04/2025 12:10

Time difference! They’re in USA!

So I gather, so I'd have thought they'd be replying at 9pm French local time last night Hmm

Anyway I finally got back to a message from AirB&B to say that if the host refuses a refund for the paid parking they've "organised" I can escalate to them to get it sorted

Thing is, although the host has actually said they'd refund in the messages which go through the company's system (we're not supposed to message them any other way) I've no longer got the least trust in any of them, so all that seems possible is to sit it out, go home on the 24th and never, absolutely NEVER use AirB&B again

Edited to add that I'll obviously leave an honest, factual review, but with what's happened so far I don't even trust them to publish it. I don't know how they're "reviewed" and frankly no longer care; this is a nightmare which won't be repeated

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SharpenerHarpenden · 17/04/2025 13:26

This seems to be a thing in France. I always filter by parking but almost none of the results actually have free parking, it's just standard on street which is not what you want after a long journey!

Frannyhy · 17/04/2025 12:24

I rent out my spare room on Airbnb. Free parking is restricted on my street, and can be very expensive elsewhere. I get limited visitor permits every year so I don't sell them to guests - I can't guarantee them a space close by my home.

However, I always tell people the situation BEFORE I take their booking. If your host wasn't honest with you, you should get some money back.

Jungfraujoch · 17/04/2025 12:10

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 08:48

Yes, that's my feeling on the issue @Newgirls, but what I now don't understand is why AirB&B aren't replying to my request to clarify whether a parking refund would be made - it's 10am here and I'd have thought the service should be running

Time difference! They’re in USA!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 09:22

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 09:18

Is she really claiming that a massive company like Air BnB that operates worldwide doesn't have any customer service assistants who speak French? Do they not have any presence in Canada?!

It sounds to me like she just does whatever she thinks she can get away with; then, if she's challenged or pulled up on any of it, she just relies on claiming language difficulties.

Quite Hmm

Anyway off out now, though my friend's staying here today - will update later if anything changes

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 09:18

Is she really claiming that a massive company like Air BnB that operates worldwide doesn't have any customer service assistants who speak French? Do they not have any presence in Canada?!

It sounds to me like she just does whatever she thinks she can get away with; then, if she's challenged or pulled up on any of it, she just relies on claiming language difficulties.

Espresso25 · 17/04/2025 09:13

The host is in control of the refund - that’s why. You can accept it and still keep the issue open with Airbnb.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 08:57

That's the point - I don't know if there's going to be any discount yet and we can't afford to keep racking up hundreds of euros for something that's supposed to have been provided already

As mentioned, she's suggested we park in the local hotel - only now that's not available until Monday so it involves a parking lot until then - and she tells us tthat AirB&B will refund the charges
However I no longer trust her and the company now aren't replying at all

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Newgirls · 17/04/2025 08:52

Air b and b are very slow and the person dealing with your query might not be at work yet. Or waiting to hear from your host. At least you are getting a discount - can you use that for taxis?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 08:48

Yes, that's my feeling on the issue @Newgirls, but what I now don't understand is why AirB&B aren't replying to my request to clarify whether a parking refund would be made - it's 10am here and I'd have thought the service should be running

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Newgirls · 17/04/2025 08:41

I wouldn’t expect to get 180 back - who would pay it? If it’s the host she would pay it now to protect her rating, and she isn’t. Air b and b definitely won’t

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 08:35

Yes the listing's still up and no it's not been changed
Last night I suggested that, if she really didn't list "parking on premises", she took it up with AirB&B to sort it out, but she says she can't do that because she doesn't have enough English (despite speaking it very well with me)

Anyway I've now sent four messages to AirB&B asking them to reply as to whether they really will refund paid parking - quite frankly I don't trust her over this - and now they're not replying

So much for what was supposed to be a much needed relaxing holiday Sad

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 08:14

At worst, the host is a brazen liar; and at best, she sounds like she has a strong case of Main Character Syndrome.

Is the listing still up? Has it been recently amended to remove/clarify the claim of private parking?

Personally, whilst I would prefer a place with its own parking if possible, I would be infinitely more inclined to book a place that honestly stated 'parking is on the road outside' than one which said 'parking on the premises' which had a bad review clearly stating that this claim was false/misleading and that, after complaining about this, the customer had been asked to pay €180 for a guaranteed space some distance from the property! It would ring alarm bells in my head and make me wonder if all/any of the other details were actually true or just spun/made up to sound much better than the reality.

Reviews are the lifeblood of ventures like this. Surely most people immediately go to the bad reviews first, before they look at the good ones afterwards?!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/04/2025 07:54

Nothing from AirB&B overnight to confirm the 180 euros for parking would definitely be refunded so I've re-sent the same messaage asking for an urgent reply

Even if they do it's far from perfect, but at least it's something - and as for why the host's taking this approach, she genuinely believes it's our fault and insists she didn't include "parking on premises" in the listing and that "nobody else has ever had a problem" (yeaah, right ...)

TBH the whole thing's frying my brain, whih is why I wanted to check on here that IANBU. Guess all I can do now is wait for AirB&B's reply

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 07:41

Even if there has been a misunderstanding because of different meanings of 'on the premises' between the two languages, it can't be the first time that this difference has been encountered.

As an American-owned site, Air BnB must get millions of customers who speak and book throughout the world through the medium of English; it isn't a minority language. If there's an easily-confused term that must be used extensively, surely they would ask people listing properties to specify, to avoid such similar confusion.

Even if there were no language difference, it's still quite a vague description in both languages. If you're selling a product, why wouldn't you actually seek to give a reasonably detailed and accurate description such as 'property has its own drive to the side', 'allocated parking space for this property only' or 'parking on the street outside'? Informing people booking a property in a residential area that there's parking available somewhere in the neighbourhood isn't really that helpful, is it?!

It's like selling a cake and only deigning to tell potential customers that "it contains edible ingredients"!

Espresso25 · 17/04/2025 07:24

I’m surprised at your host. Ratings are a big deal for hosts!

Espresso25 · 17/04/2025 07:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/04/2025 21:13

Okay, update - sorry it's a late one but I've only just heard

Air B&B offered us 30% off our cost for the two nights here and 100% refund for the rest if we want to leave tonight - except it's past 10pm here so that's hardly realistic (my friend's already in bed)

As a crossover with this, the host called us personally, having arranged for us to park in the hotel up the road for 180 euros for the remaining stay.
While still insisting that "on the premises" can mean on the road so it's really our fault, she tells us that AirB&B will refund us the 180 euros to park at the hotel ... but the company themselves didn't say anything about this??

So I've messaged AirB&B to ask if this is indeed correct before visiting the hotel tomorrow ... will post again if we hear from them and it enabes us to accept this offer

Edited

The host has come to that conclusion herself, it’s up to you as to whether or not you accept.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 16/04/2025 22:14

What?! She is expecting YOU to pay another €180 which you may or may not get back?

Why on earth is she treating this like a you problem when she's the one who caused it all? If she's so convinced that the €180 will be refunded - bearing in mind that having to park in a car park up the road is already a big downgrade over what you were promised, booked and paid for - the very, very least she could do is to pay it and (try to) claim it back herself.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/04/2025 21:13

Okay, update - sorry it's a late one but I've only just heard

Air B&B offered us 30% off our cost for the two nights here and 100% refund for the rest if we want to leave tonight - except it's past 10pm here so that's hardly realistic (my friend's already in bed)

As a crossover with this, the host called us personally, having arranged for us to park in the hotel up the road for 180 euros for the remaining stay.
While still insisting that "on the premises" can mean on the road so it's really our fault, she tells us that AirB&B will refund us the 180 euros to park at the hotel ... but the company themselves didn't say anything about this??

So I've messaged AirB&B to ask if this is indeed correct before visiting the hotel tomorrow ... will post again if we hear from them and it enabes us to accept this offer

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