P E teacher. Please help.

I was a teacher , the amount of unfounded complaints I had from parents saying I hadn't allowed them to go to the toilet? Have life saving medication, showed discrimination etc etc etc. Bon of which were true. The just wanted to get out of lessons or detention. I'm not saying this is true in your child's case but I find it very hard to believe that s teacher would prevent use of an inhaler ...there will I suspect be each more to this

What do you do if it means getting the entire class to go back into the main school?

Just tell your dd to take her inhaler with her.

Having had a secondary school teacher lie to me, I do believe you!

Some monsters on this thread.
Yeah let her die, that'll teach her to be so forgetful about her medication.

Besides, the teacher wouldn't have mentioned half the things they did if they weren't lying. I'm not teacher bashing. I'm adult bashing.

How old. If secondary age surely dd has responsibility here.

The punishment for making a mistake and forgetting your inhaler isn't risk of death from an uncontrolled asthma attack. Arrange for child to get inhaler (e.g. send a friend or TA for it) and give the child a behaviour sanction for forgetting if necessary.

And I'm not sure latter would be justified when the arrangements for taking inhalers to PE apparently haven't been spelled out clearly to the child. When you can't have your bag with you and no pockets, it's non obvious. School telling her she should have it with her is of limited value unless they say here's the medication tray, or you can bring your schoolbag and leave it in x place, or whatever the appropriate arrangement is. Child doesn't know how all this works, she probably thought in the changing room counted as 'with her' and it would be accessible if needed.

I am a teacher. If a child tells me they need their inhaler, they go and get it and use it. Every. Single. Time. Even when I'm 99% sure it's an excuse to get out of PE, why would I chance that? We have to go through really scary Athma training every few years and the consequences of not using an inhaler in time don't bare thinking about. Teacher knows they have erred and is trying to back track. Take it further not least so that the school reminds all staff of their duty if care in this area.

How old. If secondary age surely dd has responsibility here. I have a dd who is 8 and she got friends with inhalers and they take responsibility to make sure they have it. Wonder if teacher was just covering lesson.

What do the classroom assistant and other PE teachers say? Either the teacher is lying or your daughter is and they should be able to clear that up

But you are beating a dead horse so to speak. It’s happened and you raised it. You didn’t get the response you wanted so you continues to raise it - it doesn’t change the facts which is your daughter said she needed her inhaler, didn’t bring it to class and wasn’t allowed to go and get it. Mistakes all around but again it doesn’t change the situation. There is a way forward to avoid this next time and otherwise your continuance to want more response etc is to make a point and be punitive. As I said before I think you have made your point and need to move forward:

Yeah like 3 weeks to ensure you were open for exams. Very odd you're right. The school opposite from my house is still open, the one next door to it is shut.

Are they? They are all closed here. I appreciate dates do fluctuate a bit but I can’t see how you manage to fit in a half term in May if they haven’t broken up yet. Unless they have been off already. It would end up with a very short term either way.

Lots of schools are still in. Particularly catholic schools, they tend to be in for Holy week.

If it were me I would have let her get the inhaler.

Where in the country are you that you are still at school?

Aerobic exercise is extremely good for asthmatics - essential even.

But your DD needs to learn to manage her condition. She needs to be responsible for carrying her inhaler and taking a couple of puffs before she starts exercising. And she could also learn some effective breathing techniques to control breath flow under exertion so her bronchioli don’t seize up and spasm, causing the really uncomfortable wheezing.

All of this should be becoming her responsibility and she needs to remember to use her inhaler just before PE. Maybe just as she’s getting changed?

Do you mean blame should be put on PE teacher and school? And why is it so bad that PE teacher called rather than pastoral care? Could be PC were unavailable and school wanted you to get feedback asap? Or wanted PE teacher to give you feedback because you previously called her? I think school has taken corrective action but what do you want next? It seems you want headteacher and pastoral care to apologise speak to your daughter?
It feels like this will never end for you s you've lost trust or what something school might not be able to give you and you daughter. Consider changing schools?

She's 11 and newly diagnosed. People are attributing their healthy adult approaches to remembering things to a child. Yes, on the one hand it's an opportunity for op to reinforce to her dd that she must now take responsibility for her own health condition. The fact that it caused her discomfort is probably enough for her to have 'learned the lesson'. And op has explained why she has not yet got a spare one (but presumably intends to, having also 'learned a lesson'). But teachers shouldn't be taking risks with health, particularly a newly diagnosed child who is un-used to having to remember a life saving device. So what if she misses 10 mins of the lesson? Easy enough (and common sense!) for the teacher to say "ok, on this occasion please go and get it, please make sure you bring a spare. And if it happens again, you won't be able to leave the class", or words to that effect. Isn't that how we all learn? Make a mistake, get a reprieve on the understanding that you learn from it and don't repeat it?

I mean this kindly OP, but for your daughter’s sake, let it go. They have addressed the pressing medical question, thankfully. You are now just on the war path, and for what? So the teacher - who is supporting your daughter to get her grade to an A, praising her for doing really well - gets sacked?

You’ve been told many times - teachers have the needs of 30 kids at once to deal with; many kids take the piss unbelievably in PE and it can be hard to tell who just wants 20 mins off; teachers are human and don’t always get it right; many are quite young and don’t have kids with conditions to give context.

By going all out to ‘clear your daughter’s name’ over something that has now been addressed you risk looking vindictive and a trouble maker, and creating a much more negative association for your daughter than the original situation would have caused. The school are also less likely to respond well to you next time as you would have destroyed good will by causing a stink.

As someone who has had to have countless conversations with secondary school over the years and really needed the help of teachers and leadership- pick your battles.

DS can have long stable periods, but we've learned the hard way that chest tightness and fatigue are his first signs of a flare up and time to increase medication from maintainence rate before wheezing presents, and to use his reliever in anticipation of activities like sports when his risk level is elevated.

Being a skitty 12yo, it's a slog to keep his mind focused on the importance of remembering his inhalers for everything when he's several months into a stable phase.

I agree it is a life lesson for the child. I'm a lifelong asthmatic and it's my responsibility to ensure I have my inhaler with me. Tell you daughter to take the inhaler everywhere with her, PE/other sport is somewhere she should have quick access to it if necessary.

I would not make a big deal out of it. DD does not ‘need her name cleared’. If she has her inhaler with her in future the issue won’t arise again - and that is what is important, not apportioning blame or deciding who is 'lying'.

Unsure how it’s possible to hear that with a stethoscope. Doesn’t sound like she has asthma though as presence of wheeze is one of the diagnostic criteria.

The problem is the school/PE teacher didn’t brand your DD a liar. The teacher didn’t let her out of the lesson which you have taken issue with. So now it’s become about who said what and lying.

Op the time is fast approaching where she will need to be out in the world. Micro managing every interaction won’t enable her. It’s hard enough to let them go when they are confident and capable but really tough if they are more vulnerable.

This is all fantasy. Why should a phone magically disappear? If DD has an episode unsupervised, how would the teacher 10 minutes away even know, let alone feel they had to bring the class back?

This is your issue.

The changing rooms and toilets will all be locked. They cannot let the children go off unsupervised. Which is why they’re told to go before.

This isn’t a how dare you issue. It’s a life lesson for your child.

I don't know what the point of calling the PE teacher was if you had no intention of believing what she had to say.