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To find this bizarre? Friend and soap

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SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

OP posts:
OrangeKettle · 16/04/2025 15:43

Why was there no dispenser next to the sink?

Kidding.

This thread is hilarious!

op I think I’m one of the few that wouldn’t have even asked you and just used whatever. I’ve been to friends’ houses before and used whatever I can find - shampoo, shower gel. It’s all soap!

Iwantacupofteawith2sugars · 16/04/2025 15:17

TropicofCapricorn · 15/04/2025 22:10

But shower gel cleans you .. it's not just a perfume.

You're washing your body twice...?

I personally don’t feel like it does tho.

DappledThings · 16/04/2025 14:59

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 16/04/2025 14:11

I never said it was a moral failing - just that it's one of those things that most people would really not want to run out of; if the alternative is that you have to grapple around and hold and open a shower gel bottle with poo-germy fingers.

They cost a pound or less, don't take up much room in your cupboard and keep for months and months - unless you really are on your uppers, why wouldn't you always keep one or two in spare?

Why are you so confused by the idea that sometimes people aren't completely organised and therefore don't always have supplies in? Sometimes things get overlooked. It's hardly an unusual situation.

HaddyAbrams · 16/04/2025 14:45

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

Yes! It's cheaper, better for the environment and feels much cleaner than shower gel/liquid "soap" (most of which aren't actually soap at all).
I do have a smol liquid dispenser in the kitchen though.

CatamaranViper · 16/04/2025 14:29

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 13:53

But the reason she’s saying it over and over is those are the posts she’s focussed on, rather than taking on board the hundreds of others quite rightly pointing out that most people would not assume she meant for them to use her shower gel without explicitly stating so (even though yes it’s basically the same as soap blah blah).

So? I never said that she wasn't doing that, I was simply pointing something out to another user. Why are you trying to argue with me?

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 16/04/2025 14:11

DappledThings · 16/04/2025 11:56

But if it's a product that most people consider essential for cleanliness - such as soap/handwash or bog roll - and it isn't something you can generally hang on without using indefinitely, I'm amazed that people wouldn't be keen to ensure that they always have a spare for when it's needed.
Being keen to always have something in doesnt mean you don't also sometimes run out of it. It's not a moral failing

I never said it was a moral failing - just that it's one of those things that most people would really not want to run out of; if the alternative is that you have to grapple around and hold and open a shower gel bottle with poo-germy fingers.

They cost a pound or less, don't take up much room in your cupboard and keep for months and months - unless you really are on your uppers, why wouldn't you always keep one or two in spare?

Hastentoadd · 16/04/2025 14:03

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 13:53

But the reason she’s saying it over and over is those are the posts she’s focussed on, rather than taking on board the hundreds of others quite rightly pointing out that most people would not assume she meant for them to use her shower gel without explicitly stating so (even though yes it’s basically the same as soap blah blah).

Exactly, she is clearly incapable of listening to or even considering others opinions as it is damaging to her ego when she thought she was so right

I think she is just one of these people who always thinks she’s right even when she is wrong

nomas · 16/04/2025 14:03

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 12:08

I never said it wasn’t a substitute! And I didn’t think an adult would need to be told! Obviously based on this thread a worrying number would…

It’s not immediately intuitive to people when you ask for soap and are pointed towards ‘some stuff in a bottle’ or ‘somewhere behind the screen.’.

Your friend would have been looking for a bar or soap or a Cussons hand wash, not your Radox!

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 14:01

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

Yes, dove bar does a very good job. I buy it to save on plastic packaging (environment).

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 13:53

CatamaranViper · 16/04/2025 13:19

I mean, yeah I know that. I also replied saying that at the start of the thread.
My point here was to correct a poster who kept saying OP used shower gel as a rule, instead of when she runs out of hand soap. Which OP has repeated over and over again.

But the reason she’s saying it over and over is those are the posts she’s focussed on, rather than taking on board the hundreds of others quite rightly pointing out that most people would not assume she meant for them to use her shower gel without explicitly stating so (even though yes it’s basically the same as soap blah blah).

SallyWD · 16/04/2025 13:52

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

I much prefer a bar of soap. Firstly there's no plastic waste, secondly I feel so much cleaner if I use soap.

Funnywonder · 16/04/2025 13:45

I’m surprised that the friend didn’t just figure it out. OP ran out of soap and told friend there was some in another location. I mean, if this was me, I would initially look for a bottle of liquid soap, but it would take a couple of seconds to make the leap to shower gel. Small breakdown in communication leads to one person being extremely patronising to another for no good reason. Weird.

Oh and if I put shower gel in the liquid soap dispenser, guess what? It would be completely undetectable and would do the same job.

Icanttakethisanymore · 16/04/2025 13:33

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

I love a bar of soap! I do a TK maxx raid every now and then and stock up on beautifully scented soaps which I love using.

I have liquid by the sink in the kitchen though becasue I don't really want a bar of soap knocking around the kitchen sink

DappledThings · 16/04/2025 13:33

Whoarethoseguys · 16/04/2025 13:25

Do you have a dispenser by the sink too and it had run out?
I would also be confused about washing my hands with shower gel. And no soap by the sink

Yes, for the 1000th time she had a dispenser of hand soap by the sink which had unexpectedly run out

Whoarethoseguys · 16/04/2025 13:32

Whoarethoseguys · 16/04/2025 13:25

Do you have a dispenser by the sink too and it had run out?
I would also be confused about washing my hands with shower gel. And no soap by the sink

Sorry just seen you do have a dispenser by the sink but it was empty.
In that case I would just say use the shower gel.

threenaancurrywhore · 16/04/2025 13:31

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

?!

Yes, lots of people still use bar soap. I can’t stand liquid soap and I hate the plastic waste. Use bar soap in the shower, too, no shower gel. When I make my friends play hunt the soap it’s very easily found, have to make do with Victorian parlour games instead.

HamptonPlace · 16/04/2025 13:26

do people still use 'bar soap'? Seems very victorian...

Whoarethoseguys · 16/04/2025 13:25

Do you have a dispenser by the sink too and it had run out?
I would also be confused about washing my hands with shower gel. And no soap by the sink

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/04/2025 13:22

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 12:05

I can’t believe you think the difference between a wine glass and a mug is the same as the (lack of) difference between liquid soap and shower gel.

It is !

CatamaranViper · 16/04/2025 13:19

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 13:09

Yes and what most people have replied over and over again is that unless she specifically said “oh use the shower gel instead” it wouldn’t occur to them to use shower gel when they ask for soap and op says it’s by the bath even though most people will readily accept that they do the same job. It’s the communication that’s the issue, not the idea of using shower gel to wash your hands.

Edited

I mean, yeah I know that. I also replied saying that at the start of the thread.
My point here was to correct a poster who kept saying OP used shower gel as a rule, instead of when she runs out of hand soap. Which OP has repeated over and over again.

Mnetcurious · 16/04/2025 13:09

CatamaranViper · 16/04/2025 11:39

OP does use hand soap and usually has it in the dispenser on the sink. She unexpectedly ran out. In that situation, OP uses shower gel or similar. She has said this over and over again on the thread.

Yes and what most people have replied over and over again is that unless she specifically said “oh use the shower gel instead” it wouldn’t occur to them to use shower gel when they ask for soap and op says it’s by the bath even though most people will readily accept that they do the same job. It’s the communication that’s the issue, not the idea of using shower gel to wash your hands.

UnctuousUnicorns · 16/04/2025 12:56

How the hell has this thread reached nearly 400 replies?! 🤷‍♀️

TortolaParadise · 16/04/2025 12:45

Can I ask those of you saying you’d never wash your hands with shower gel why it’s different to using it on the rest of your body?

Yes, because how do you shower without washing your hands too!🤔

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/04/2025 12:43

Functionally, there is little or no difference between shower gel and liquid soap. But if I was washing my hands after using the loo, I would be a bit unsure about grabbing a bottle out of the shower. I know my hands aren't filthy, but there could be urine or traces of faeces on my hands, and I wouldn't want to leave that on someone's shower gel, to end up on their hands.

When I was a theatre nurse, it was drummed into us that we should touch the bottles with the handwash solution in them as little as possible - we had elbow operated dispensers at the sinks where we scrubbed up for surgery - so maybe I am overcautious in normal, day to day situations, because of years of training on handwashing practices.

I am probably hugely overthinking this, @SplodgePocket - but it's how I'd use the product, not the product itself that I'd worry about.

Jeezitneverends · 16/04/2025 12:42

Pancakeflipper · 15/04/2025 19:00

So the dispenser dispenses shower gel?

I haven't ever used shower gel as a soap substitute. It's never occurred to me.

I do it all the time but I do decant it into a dispensed by the sinks