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To find this bizarre? Friend and soap

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SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

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Jumpingthruhoops · 21/04/2025 23:56

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

I wouldn't think to wash my hands (especially in someone else's house!) with shower gel.

Hand wash = hand wash
Shower gel = shower gel

SapphireSeptember · 21/04/2025 23:53

DiscoBeat · 16/04/2025 08:24

Shower gel isn't usually anti bacterial so I prefer hand soap, but obviously shower gel would do. But I wouldn't go fishing about in the shower looking for it in someone else's house, so I'd mention it. What an odd system. Just buy some flipping soap.

It's all anti-bacterial, and anti-viral. Doesn't matter what it's labelled as!

This thread is hard work. 🤦🏻‍♀️ OP has stated repeatedly that she has hand soap but that she didn't know the dispenser was empty.

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 18/04/2025 19:42

chaosmaker · 18/04/2025 01:43

@SplodgePocket your title is misleading, it should read Friend and Shower Gel

😂🧼🧴🫧

chaosmaker · 18/04/2025 01:43

@SplodgePocket your title is misleading, it should read Friend and Shower Gel

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 17/04/2025 16:18

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 15:09

And upon finding shower gel there, rather than bleach, acid or a pint of snakebite, the next step would have been…?

Stuff you. Now I want a pint of Snakey B! £2.10 from the student union bar back in the day and guaranteed to make ya pissed cheaply.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 17/04/2025 16:16

hereismydog · 15/04/2025 20:22

You touch the pump dispenser, but you don’t usually roll the dispenser in your hands…

Also, not everything is aseptic. Most clinical procedures I perform aren’t. The aim is clean, but infection control would quite rightly read us the riot act if they discovered a bar of soap in a clinical area. Current IPC guidelines (you can look them up for yourself) explicitly state that bar soap is not acceptable.

Forgive me for I haven't returned to the thread since page 7 but if you're still around @hereismydog I'm curious which clinical procedures don't require aseptic cleanliness?

I'm honestly not trying to pick a fight, I'm just trying to understand! This is a 100% me problem but my menopause foggy brain just can't think of a single clinical procedure for which you wouldn't want aseptic techniques. I used to work for a company that supplied infection control disposable equipment to surgical units, hence I'm interested but I have a very limited field of knowledge, which is about 20 years out of date!

I do appreciate that bar soap isn't allowed in clinical settings.

Thalia31 · 17/04/2025 15:58

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

You are definitely the weirdo in this situation.

miraxxx · 17/04/2025 15:46

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 07:58

Maybe she's on edge and worried about Splodge's reaction/criticism if she assumes and then discovers that she misunderstood what Splodge was trying to direct her to do, but without bothering/refusing to simply say "Use the shower gel - it's the same thing".

Going on this thread, OP is very much coming across as, shall we say, an extremely 'assertive' person; she reminds me of the sort who would proudly declare that they 'don't suffer fools gladly'.

Exactly this.

howaboutchocolate · 17/04/2025 15:43

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 15:09

And upon finding shower gel there, rather than bleach, acid or a pint of snakebite, the next step would have been…?

saying "no I don't see any soap" because that is what she has been told to look for.

the logical conclusion for most people is "splodge is mistaken and there is no soap here, only shower gel" not "she must be calling the shower gel soap".

chaosmaker · 17/04/2025 15:38

I think the thread thinks that Yes you are being unreasonable.....lol

Shmee1988 · 17/04/2025 15:37

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 15:09

And upon finding shower gel there, rather than bleach, acid or a pint of snakebite, the next step would have been…?

To think you had no hand soap? lol. I think the AIBU part of your post hasn't really gone your way. Trust me, I've been there 😂

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 15:09

And upon finding shower gel there, rather than bleach, acid or a pint of snakebite, the next step would have been…?

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Shmee1988 · 17/04/2025 14:54

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 12:42

I honestly don’t understand how people can be this obtuse. It’s literally in the opening post!!!

I told her it was on the side of the bath behind the shower screen. I did NOT expect her to guess. There was literally only one bottle there (and just in case you’re still confused somehow, that’s what I meant by “there” - the exact place I described.)

Let's ignore for the moment whether my friend should have known I meant the shower gel. The instruction “On the side of the bath behind the shower screen” is pretty unambiguous. You can’t claim she might have thought I meant in the cupboard, or in a different room.

No you're right, but she'd of no doubt seen the shower gel and thought 'well she obviously doesn't mean that because it's shower gel'. It's not hand soap which is what she was looking for

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 13:16

doesn't matter if you thought your instructions were clear. You omitted to say, 'Don't have soap, use the shower gel, it's the same thing', therefore leaving her flummoxed when she was looking for a different product........... surely not THAT hard to understand?

I was talking about the posters trying to suggest it was somehow “hidden” because it was exactly where I said it was.

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chaosmaker · 17/04/2025 13:01

My skin is definitely happier now I've mostly gone back to bars of soap :)

@SplodgePocket doesn't matter if you thought your instructions were clear. You omitted to say, 'Don't have soap, use the shower gel, it's the same thing', therefore leaving her flummoxed when she was looking for a different product........... surely not THAT hard to understand?

threenaancurrywhore · 17/04/2025 12:45

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 07:50

That's what I gathered, but wasn't certain.

In which case, who would design a refillable dispenser without even a window to monitor the level of the contents? That's 'Design 101'!

If you do buy one that is poorly designed in this way, surely you would know that you'd have to make sure to open it up to check the level regularly?

You know what’s a really good design, where you can monitor the soap running out: a bar of soap.

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 12:42

Shmee1988 · 17/04/2025 12:20

No,because it wasn't 'there' was it? Soap for hand washing is found on the sink, not in the bath/shower

I honestly don’t understand how people can be this obtuse. It’s literally in the opening post!!!

I told her it was on the side of the bath behind the shower screen. I did NOT expect her to guess. There was literally only one bottle there (and just in case you’re still confused somehow, that’s what I meant by “there” - the exact place I described.)

Let's ignore for the moment whether my friend should have known I meant the shower gel. The instruction “On the side of the bath behind the shower screen” is pretty unambiguous. You can’t claim she might have thought I meant in the cupboard, or in a different room.

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SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 12:37

Cherrysoup · 17/04/2025 12:12

Handwashing is normally on /next to the sink. I find it less concentrated than shower gel. Your friend isn’t the unreasonable one.

For the love of God, READ.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/04/2025 12:28

pollymere · 16/04/2025 18:52

I have bar soap next to my sink. I wouldn't want people putting dirty hands on my shower gel... And it wouldn't cross my mind to use shower gel to wash my hands on someone's bathroom, sorry.

My thoughts were similar, @pollymere - I wouldn't want to put my dirty hands on someone else's shower gel. I'd have to handle the bottle far more than I would if I was dispensing hand wash from a pump, and I'd hate the thought of potentially leaving urine and faecal traces, even minute ones, on the bottle someone else was going to pick up and use in the shower.

As I said yesterday - I could be massively over-thinking this, but it is why I would have qualms about picking up the shower gel from someone else's shower.

Shmee1988 · 17/04/2025 12:20

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 20:43

When it was literally the only thing there? It wouldn’t occur to you?

No,because it wasn't 'there' was it? Soap for hand washing is found on the sink, not in the bath/shower

KimberleyClark · 17/04/2025 12:18

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 07:50

That's what I gathered, but wasn't certain.

In which case, who would design a refillable dispenser without even a window to monitor the level of the contents? That's 'Design 101'!

If you do buy one that is poorly designed in this way, surely you would know that you'd have to make sure to open it up to check the level regularly?

Pump dispensers tend to stop working once the contents fall below a certain level even when there is a substantial amount left. At least with a clear bottle you can see that is the case and unscrew the top and get the contents out as you would with a ketchup bottle.

Cherrysoup · 17/04/2025 12:12

Handwashing is normally on /next to the sink. I find it less concentrated than shower gel. Your friend isn’t the unreasonable one.

husbandcookingtonight · 17/04/2025 11:47

Got this off a google search: "Yes, shower gel can generally be used as hand soap. Both shower gels and hand soaps are designed to clean and remove dirt and germs from the skin. While hand soap may have a slight edge in terms of antimicrobial properties, shower gel can be used effectively to wash hands, especially if you're out of hand soap."
The only thing I would do different to you is to have a dispenser by the sink with whatever I wanted in it - personally I don't like the way she talked to you as if you were some kind of idiot - shower gel is soap with a different name and aren't hands part of the body anyway?

SummerDaysOnTheWay · 17/04/2025 11:18

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 22:50

As OP keeps saying that shower gel and handwash are the same thing, why wouldn't she have filled up the empty dispenser from the shower gel bottle once she used the last of it?

But the whole point is that I didn’t know it was empty!

At which point you could have said “just use the shower gel darling friend, I’m out of soap!”.

But you didn’t. And here we are.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 17/04/2025 11:16

SplodgePocket · 17/04/2025 09:26

Get help for your soap obsession!!

You are the one who started a thread about this - presumably looking for validation that you are so clever to realise that soap/handwash and shower gel are very similar and that your friend is so stupid for not knowing that!!

If making sure that we have sufficient soap (in hygienically accessible dispensers - so obviously not shower gel bottles tucked behind the shower curtain) in the house to wash our hands after using the toilet is 'obsessive', then I guess I am obsessed. It seems like an extremely low bar to set yourself, though.

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