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To find this bizarre? Friend and soap

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SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 18:56

A friend came around earlier as I had a half day. Before she left, she said she was just popping to the loo. I then heard her call a minute later, “Splodge? There’s no soap”.

I have a dispenser, so I assumed it had run out and called back that there was some on the side of the bath. There was a pause and she called back, “No, not here”. I knew it was there so replied, “Just against the wall, behind the shower screen”. Again, a pause before a bewildered “No…”

I was completely confused now, as I knew very well it was there. I went through to the hall and she was standing in the doorway looking baffled. I went in, looked behind the screen and sure enough, there it was. I handed it to her and said, “Here, see?”

She burst out laughing and said, “Ohhhhh!! It’s shower gel!!” I was a bit confused and replied, “Well yes; soap, shower gel… whatever”. She was smiling at me a bit like I was a child who’d made a comical mistake. She said, “You said soap. This is shower gel. Show-er gel.” With the last bit really slowly, like she wasn’t sure English was my first language.

I was really taken aback. Who is this bizarrely literal? Surely it’s all pretty much the same thing? I thought maybe she was looking for a bar of soap and this was what had confused her somehow, but surely when you couldn’t see it you’d think “it must be the stuff in the bottle”? And even if you didn’t, wouldn’t you just have used the shower gel anyway?

I’ve never noticed her take things so literally before. Is it me or is this just really odd?!

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RaindropBloom · 16/04/2025 00:37

Not read the whole thread.

This thread minds me of the rush to buy hand wash before we went into lockdown. I remember going into my local Tesco and there wasn't a hand wash or bar of soap to be found.... But the shelves were full of shower gel and body wash 🤣🤪

CinnamonJellyBeans · 16/04/2025 00:37

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:29

“Bum bacteria” 😆😆😆 Genius.

Thank you for finding that funny, but I was wrong to say that about your situation.

I have been corrected about you not having soap at the sink, so I am sorry for that.

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:36

MasterBeth · 15/04/2025 23:18

I thought you were being 90% unreasonable but now I've read your responses, I think you are more like 95% unreasonable.

Shower gel is not soap. In my mind, they are two very different substances - one solid, one a gel. One literally is for use in a shower. Of course, you can wash your hands with shower gel and, if that's all there is, that's not a problem.

But if I ask you "is there some soap in your bathroom?" and you say yes, then I am going to look for soap, not shower gel. Even if I find the shower gel, I'm not going to use it because you told me there was some soap.

My 10% of the doubt is because, in different contexts, "soap" can mean different things. Older people like my mum might talk about "the dish soap" to mean washing up liquid. There is "soap powder" (washing powder). Maybe you come from some weirdy place and time where "soap" can mean "shower gel".

This thread should tell you that most people don't come from that place.

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😆😆😆

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SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:34

Delphiniumandlupins · 16/04/2025 00:26

You keep repeating that you told your friend exactly where to find the Hand-Washing Product but you're not acknowledging that she couldn't find it because she was looking for soap! Or possibly liquid soap. She saw shower gel but (like many here) did not interpret that as a Hand-Washing Product. It may be exactly the same formula. It may be what you normally use to fill your soap dispenser. But it's not what your friend uses.

She could have gone mad and used it once though, right?

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SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:34

Hastentoadd · 16/04/2025 00:30

She has a point, you specifically told the person that there was soap so they were looking for soap…. Can you not see this

Surely an adult can think “Oh well, nothing specifically labelled soap - the shower gel will do”?! 😆😆

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SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:33

sandyhappypeople · 15/04/2025 19:54

YABU for calling shower gel 'soap'.

Besides, I wouldn't use anything from around someone's bath, especially something that they have to handle to wash their fanny.

What do you think I do - shove the whole bottle there?!

I mean, don’t get me wrong; it’s not as tight as it was 20 years ago. But I can still manage to squeeze the shower gel into my hands rather than going full on “bottle up the fanny”.

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Hastentoadd · 16/04/2025 00:30

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:27

Jesus Christ on a fucking bike!!! 😆

She has a point, you specifically told the person that there was soap so they were looking for soap…. Can you not see this

SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:29

CinnamonJellyBeans · 15/04/2025 19:50

No matter how impoverished you are, you need to keep a bar of soap by the sink for hand-washing after the toilet. You cannot dispense with hand hygiene (or even shower gel) if you wish to avoid making others sick with your bum bacteria.

“Bum bacteria” 😆😆😆 Genius.

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SplodgePocket · 16/04/2025 00:27

BobbyBiscuits · 15/04/2025 19:40

I'd assume there would be liquid or solid soap next to the basin. I wouldn't think to reach over to the bath and use the shower gel. It's for washing your body in the bath and shower, not your hands after the loo?

If you want people to use shower gel for that you should put it on the sink/basin. But why not buy hand soap?

Jesus Christ on a fucking bike!!! 😆

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Delphiniumandlupins · 16/04/2025 00:26

You keep repeating that you told your friend exactly where to find the Hand-Washing Product but you're not acknowledging that she couldn't find it because she was looking for soap! Or possibly liquid soap. She saw shower gel but (like many here) did not interpret that as a Hand-Washing Product. It may be exactly the same formula. It may be what you normally use to fill your soap dispenser. But it's not what your friend uses.

MasterBeth · 15/04/2025 23:37

TropicofCapricorn · 15/04/2025 20:40

Shower gel IS soap.

Why do you think it's different?

Well that's a bit of a sweeping taxonomic statement, innit.

The classification of "soap" is not universally understood or agreed. Is shower gel a sub-category of soap or a distinct category in its own right?

In my internal lexicon, "the soap" would most commonly be used to mean "the bar of soap". I would differentiate "liquid soap" from "soap" by giving the former a prefix. I would not consider usually shower gel to be a sub-category of soap, especially in the context of this thread, although I appreciate that chemically and technically they may be nearly identical.

Just asserting "Shower gel IS soap" isn't helpful. I would counter with "shower gel ISN'T soap".

Franjipanl8r · 15/04/2025 23:36

You say tomato I say tomato, you say soap, I say shower gel, potato, potato, tomato, tomato, let’s call the whole thing off….

pearbottomjeans · 15/04/2025 23:28

Jeez. Only on MN have I seen someone superior about shower gel. ‘Vile stuff’ apparently 😆 yet also according to this thread the exact same ingredients as bar soap? I don’t think I’ve seen a bar of soap for a couple of years personally.

MasterBeth · 15/04/2025 23:24

autisticbookworm · 15/04/2025 21:46

It’s more that they have different names than whether it’s ok to use them. I wouldn’t claim to have a mandarin in a fruit bowl full of oranges on the basis that they are both fruit.

What about on the basis that they were both oranges?

MasterBeth · 15/04/2025 23:18

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 19:20

How many times - she wasn’t expected to do that. I did not expect her to guess by divine inspiration.

Once again:

There is a dispenser on the sink. It must have run out, so I said there was some behind the shower screen. Once I’d said it, she knew where to look.

I thought you were being 90% unreasonable but now I've read your responses, I think you are more like 95% unreasonable.

Shower gel is not soap. In my mind, they are two very different substances - one solid, one a gel. One literally is for use in a shower. Of course, you can wash your hands with shower gel and, if that's all there is, that's not a problem.

But if I ask you "is there some soap in your bathroom?" and you say yes, then I am going to look for soap, not shower gel. Even if I find the shower gel, I'm not going to use it because you told me there was some soap.

My 10% of the doubt is because, in different contexts, "soap" can mean different things. Older people like my mum might talk about "the dish soap" to mean washing up liquid. There is "soap powder" (washing powder). Maybe you come from some weirdy place and time where "soap" can mean "shower gel".

This thread should tell you that most people don't come from that place.

threenaancurrywhore · 15/04/2025 23:10

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 19:29

Even when I’d specified it was on the edge of the bath?

You didn’t, though. You said there was soap on the edge of the bath. But it was shower gel. It doesn’t matter if to you it’s the same thing inside the bottle; it would be weird for her to grab the shower gel when you were telling her to look for soap, just as it would be weird for her to grab your loofah or shampoo or razor just because they were in the place you’d told her to look for something else. If you meant use shower gel, specify that!

Joystir59 · 15/04/2025 23:04

I don't possess shower gel. Vile stuff.

nomas · 15/04/2025 23:02

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 19:20

How many times - she wasn’t expected to do that. I did not expect her to guess by divine inspiration.

Once again:

There is a dispenser on the sink. It must have run out, so I said there was some behind the shower screen. Once I’d said it, she knew where to look.

there was some

Why all the repeated coy euphemisms? Why not just say shower gel?

Flutterbyby · 15/04/2025 23:00

Pushmepullyou · 15/04/2025 18:59

I would wash my hands with shower gel if there was no soap. But it’s not soap

It literally is. Liquid soap hand wash and shower gel are the same thing.

nomas · 15/04/2025 23:00

Why didn’t you just tell her to use the shower gel as hand wash?

You seemed to enjoy confusing her by deliberately subverting what soap means. That’s not how a friend behaves and it wouldn’t surprise me if she avoids you from now on.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 15/04/2025 22:51

ImNotARegularMomIACoolMom · 15/04/2025 19:22

Honestly don’t even waste your time most of these are bored housewives with nothing better to do then give you shit and make you feel like shit and dumb over shower gel/soap

And yet here you are, @ImNotARegularMomIACoolMom. Reading the thread. Commenting. I assume that makes you a bored housewife with nothing better to do than to make people feel like shit and dumb.

AllTheChaos · 15/04/2025 22:44

SplodgePocket · 15/04/2025 19:03

Well, liquid soap. But it’s pretty much the same thing.

Can I ask those of you saying you’d never wash your hands with shower gel why it’s different to using it on the rest of your body?

Honestly? Because my hand soap costs about 50p whereas the shower gel is a fancy one I got as a gift and costs a fortune, so I’d be fuming!

Poppinjay · 15/04/2025 22:37

TokyoSushi · 15/04/2025 22:24

Not RTFT but I wouldn’t have assumed to use the shower gel, I’d be looking for hand soap regardless of whether they’re the same or not!

You'd be looking for handsoap behind the shower screen after you had discovered that the handsoap dispenser on the sink was empty?

Do people usually keep handsoap on the bath?

bingobanjo · 15/04/2025 22:35

Shampoo has the same ingredients as shower gel too you know. You wouldn’t refer to that as soap and assume she’d take the initiative to use it, would you?

DappledThings · 15/04/2025 22:31

Waterbaby41 · 15/04/2025 22:26

She hadn't run out of soap though.

Yes she had. That's exactly what happened. She ran out of soap, didn't realise, friend alerted her to it and she suggested friend use shower gel instead. Except she bizarrely called the shower gel soap.

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