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To report this as benefit fraud

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 15:08

A relative is claiming benefits, can’t work due to health but is one of those who is always complaining about something wrong with her but is always able to do the things she wants to do. Can holiday abroad, always down the gym, etc. When she was working she was always making complaints against employers- one of life’s victims.

She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her.

I’m so fed up of seeing people like her take the piss. I 100% support a welfare system and it really pisses me off to see it abused like this. And meanwhile we are working our arses off and not able to afford the foreign travel and gym memberships.

I’m so tempted to report her secret savings to DWP.

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Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:20

Anothercoat · 15/04/2025 19:18

EXACTLY this.

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That’s not evidence of jealousy, that’s demonstrating the unfairness of it

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 19:20

uncomfortablydumb60 · 15/04/2025 19:17

So… You don’t actually know what she’s claiming and so have no idea if she’s claiming fraudently???
Get a life

Can’t you read?

OP posts:
Montea · 15/04/2025 19:20

Locutus2000 · 15/04/2025 19:19

Does anyone actually think this thread is in good faith?

No I don’t think it is the op is full of assumptions and is contributing to a narrative that disabled people can’t do certain things she doesn’t even know what the person suffers from but is still declaring that she knows she can’t work

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:20

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:17

No one has accused you of being fraudster but you seem to be quite against anyone reporting suspicion of fraud

All suspect fraudulent behaviour should be reported, why would anyone have an issue with that

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Not against it all. In fact if you look through my posts you will see on numerous occasions I have advised the OP to report and questioned why she needs validation from mumsnet.

lindyloo57 · 15/04/2025 19:20

@BlessedBeTheGroot I'm just joining the discussion, no i won't be reporting him. You never know if he's telling a porky.

Locutus2000 · 15/04/2025 19:19

Does anyone actually think this thread is in good faith?

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 19:19

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:18

The jealousy can be seen in the opening post - I work my arse off but can’t afford the gym. Ooh I have a good mind to report her.
OP is not some crusading anti benefit fraud superhero. It all comes down to the same thing- someone appears to have something I don’t and it’s not fair.

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It’s not fair.
It’s not fair if you claim something you’re not entitled to.
It’s not fair to take money from others that you’re not entitled to.

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Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:19

pointythings · 15/04/2025 19:17

Not at all. I have outlined what can happen to people who are investigated and asking whether you want that on your conscience if it turns out you have reported someone who has done absolutely nothing wrong. Reporting an innocent person is not a victimless action, and people need to be very aware of that. And if they report, especially out of envy and without being in possession of all the facts, and they turn out to be wrong and their victim is put through hell, then they absolutely should feel deeply, grovellingly guilty and ashamed.

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whether you want that on your conscience if it turns out you have reported someone who has done absolutely nothing wrong

Sounds like you are guilt tripping someone who suspects fraudulent behaviour into not reporting it

Anothercoat · 15/04/2025 19:18

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:18

The jealousy can be seen in the opening post - I work my arse off but can’t afford the gym. Ooh I have a good mind to report her.
OP is not some crusading anti benefit fraud superhero. It all comes down to the same thing- someone appears to have something I don’t and it’s not fair.

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EXACTLY this.

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:18

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:13

No, she has made it very clear that she is very anti fraud which everyone should be…..where does jealousy come into it?

Are you not anti fraud?

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The jealousy can be seen in the opening post - I work my arse off but can’t afford the gym. Ooh I have a good mind to report her.
OP is not some crusading anti benefit fraud superhero. It all comes down to the same thing- someone appears to have something I don’t and it’s not fair.

Anothercoat · 15/04/2025 19:17

lindyloo57 · 15/04/2025 19:15

My next door neighbour is 82 and boasts all the time about how he doesn't pay council tax and his rent is payed as he claimed pension credit , but tells us he has a private pensions he hides .

The cheeky old bastard. I bet he’s a Tory immigrant who came here and codded he can’t work yet simultaneously paid into a pension and national insurance.

Do us all a favour and put his windows in.

Iamthequeenoftheworld · 15/04/2025 19:17

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 18:04

spends a lot of time at the gym
The OP knows her well so would have mentioned if she had some Physical disability
No harm in reporting suspicious behaviour, it can be investigated and if she is actually entitled the all is fine

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Oh my god

you seriously need to educate yourself on the many complex disabilities that exist and how they effect people

many severe disabilities allow people to use the gym, even everyday, in fact make them better/improve their health condition

people seem to think all disabled is just paralyzed in wheelchair

even then my gym is full of people in wheelchairs/aids, with carers etc

paralympics exist, does that mean they are not disabled

youre being very ignorant

uncomfortablydumb60 · 15/04/2025 19:17

So… You don’t actually know what she’s claiming and so have no idea if she’s claiming fraudently???
Get a life

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:17

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:13

yes, those of us who have raised issues are angry because we are also fraudsters. Nothing to do with the backtracking of comments regarding pip or the op determining whether the ‘relative’ is able to work or not.

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No one has accused you of being fraudster but you seem to be quite against anyone reporting suspicion of fraud

All suspect fraudulent behaviour should be reported, why would anyone have an issue with that

pointythings · 15/04/2025 19:17

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:03

All suspicion of fraud ( not just benefits ) should be reported and no one should be made to feel guilty about that

You are just trying to guilt trip

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Not at all. I have outlined what can happen to people who are investigated and asking whether you want that on your conscience if it turns out you have reported someone who has done absolutely nothing wrong. Reporting an innocent person is not a victimless action, and people need to be very aware of that. And if they report, especially out of envy and without being in possession of all the facts, and they turn out to be wrong and their victim is put through hell, then they absolutely should feel deeply, grovellingly guilty and ashamed.

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 19:16

lindyloo57 · 15/04/2025 19:15

My next door neighbour is 82 and boasts all the time about how he doesn't pay council tax and his rent is payed as he claimed pension credit , but tells us he has a private pensions he hides .

Well, are you going to report him or just bitch about him on MN?

lindyloo57 · 15/04/2025 19:15

My next door neighbour is 82 and boasts all the time about how he doesn't pay council tax and his rent is payed as he claimed pension credit , but tells us he has a private pensions he hides .

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 19:15

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:13

No, she has made it very clear that she is very anti fraud which everyone should be…..where does jealousy come into it?

Are you not anti fraud?

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I am anti fraud. Very much so. I am on UC and have to abide by the rules.

The hidden savings things IS fraud. Going to the gym and on holiday is not

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:13

Almost18 · 15/04/2025 19:11

The reason is because as per usual this is someone who is jealous because someone has something she doesn't. It's funny how this people are never up for giving up work and living on benefits themselves. She's just jealous because this person has been on holiday and goes to the gym which is just pathetic.

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No, she has made it very clear that she is very anti fraud which everyone should be…..where does jealousy come into it?

Are you not anti fraud?

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 19:13

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:07

Any so you should be, I cannot understand the mentality of anyone could not be anti fraud but it seems to have risen anger in a lot of people on this thread for some reason!

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yes, those of us who have raised issues are angry because we are also fraudsters. Nothing to do with the backtracking of comments regarding pip or the op determining whether the ‘relative’ is able to work or not.

Niallig32839 · 15/04/2025 19:13

None of your business, keep your opinions on others financial situation to yourself as can almost guarantee you don’t have all the accurate facts.

Anothercoat · 15/04/2025 19:12

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:11

The person the OP is referring to has 40k in savings so she has plenty to live on if benefits are temporarily stopped during an investigation,

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But no one knows that. And if it’s untrue and entirely based on suspicion and supposition then she’s shafted.

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 19:12

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:11

The person the OP is referring to has 40k in savings so she has plenty to live on if benefits are temporarily stopped during an investigation,

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Does she though? OP said her mum has them.

Hastentoadd · 15/04/2025 19:11

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 19:08

If you find yourself in the position of a fraud investigation, then "may" is no comfort.

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The person the OP is referring to has 40k in savings so she has plenty to live on if benefits are temporarily stopped during an investigation,

Anothercoat · 15/04/2025 19:11

I wish I could type in crayons.

It’s not about fraud. It’s about being a cunt.

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