To report this as benefit fraud

I've worked in fraudulent benefit claims and a one off report will not warrant an investigation, even 2 or 3 just puts the claimant into the verification category, where with permission we can check their bank account and question them if there are significant savings. The fact she's already given it to her mum, means there's pretty much nothing that can be done, unless she confirms she's given the money away, and the purpose was to claim benefits.

So you think suspect fraud shouldn’t be reported then…..it’s no wonder the figures are so low when so many people on hear think suspect fraud shouldn’t be reported……that’s exactly why the figures are so low in the first place!!!!!

So @Hastentoadd you were saying about the huge amounts of fraud around. That’s simply not true is it? Even the government doesn’t think so.

No diagnosis?

it’s very hard to get disability even with diagnosis, so how did she manage to do that?

You don’t have to be 100% sure of facts to report suspect fraud ( not just benefit related) that’s the whole point of having an investigation

Are you suggesting that unless a person is 100% sure of all facts that no suspect fraud should ever be reported?

THANK YOU

So let’s put that in bold first those claiming there is a huge number of benefit claimants that are fraudsters

The amount of fraud on benefit is 3.5%

I’m sure tackling that is going to help…..

1- no they wouldn’t p be getting more. It would be seen as a great saving by the government. Less to spend, yay!!
2- do you have back up numbers showing the ‘so much benefit fraud from disabled people’? It’s be interesting to see what, if any, savings could be made.
3- are you talking about benefit claimant or disabled benefit claimants?

I will never not be shocked by the double standards of MN, of people that would take a fiver they found to the police station, or who fret so much about an accidental shoplift they go back and tell the shop staff - but are seemingly happy for someone else to commit benefit fraud?! Because it's apparently "petty" to not be happy for someone to earn a living purely through lying?

OP, you are very invested in this, fair enough. If she is committing fraud she deserves to be caught - so what's stopping you just reporting her to the authorities? Clearly the right thing to do?

So ignore suspect fraud?

In the UK, for the financial year ending 2024, the estimated net government loss due to fraud and error in the benefit system was 3.5% of total benefit expenditure. This includes both overpayments and underpayments due to fraud and error. Specifically, 4.0% of total benefit expenditure was overpaid, while 1.2% was underpaid.

Thats the governmental stats.

Tiny, tiny tiny.

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No, money reclaimed from fraud will never go to genuine claimants. That is not how it works.

If there wasn't so much benefit fraud around then the people who are actually deserving of benefits could maybe get more.
At the moment it seems like all benefit money is being split between those who are deserving of benefits and those who are fraudulently claiming

Do you have numbers on fraud related to disability?

She's not in the workforce making some poor gits life a misery. Just leave her to her own devices.

If you are 100% sure of your facts you would not be unreasonable to report her.
Are you sure she was in receipt of UC when she sold her house and gave her mother the money? If she gave the money to her mother some time before she claimed UC then there is no fraud. She made no false declaration. As soon as the money is in her mother's name it belongs to her mother. If she gave her mother the money then claimed UC the next day/ month you could argue she gave it away so that she could claim.
If she was on UC when she sold her house UC would have asked about the profit from the sale. They would have known because she changed address.

@Vworried1 are you disabled or are you really close to someone who is?

Because I can promise you that being chronically ill/disabled is no walk in the park despite the outside appearances.

No need surely as you stated you were 100% confident re the hidden money.

I'm one of those in need, I'm disabled and get PIP (ha! For now anyway) And for years I was a tax payer as is my daughter and husband now.
None of care about so called "benefit fraud" If they somehow manage to magically eliminate all of it, we won't be a penny better off. We don't kid ourselves that any government will put that money saved in OUR purses.

I don't believe that YOU give a damn about us either. I can see right through you.

Part of the issue is there is not a ‘tiny amount of fraudulent cases’ there is an awful lot of benefit fraud out there which is a huge drain on society and the money could otherwise be put towards something that is of more benefit

You still haven’t told us which benefit she’s on.

I claim disability benefits.

The 0.2% who claim PIP and arent entitled to it have never stopped me from getting it (or not)
They also aren’t the reason why 50% of PIP claims are rejected (incl in renewal btw)

I very much feel that the line ‘but it stops people who really need them from getting support’ is a way to calm the conscience of pepole who feel Theyre entitled to police other people.
Just like the BB police. Same argument.