To report this as benefit fraud

Suspect fraud ( of any kind) should always be reported, stop trying to guilt trip people into not reporting

Just distance yourself. It’s always better to not get involved.

Getting a bit tired of this "no harm" narrative from you. You do realise people have actually killed themselves over false fraudulent benefit claims, and people have starved to death when their benefits have been cut off.

Not true. What is an awful lot in terms of numbers?
Not only do you seem to struggle with reading comprehension, but also with facts. You may recall in a previous post (19.17 to be precise ) that you accused me of being anti reporting, yet as I have stated on numerous occasions on this thread if the original poster is so sure of her evidence then she should be on the phone to DWP rather than posting on mumsnet.

I’m in no way struggling with reading comprehension, read the posts, an awful lot are in fact vehemently against it

From Full Fact
'The latest figures show that in 2023/24 2.8% (or £7.4 billion) of benefits expenditure was overpaid due to fraud.'
7.4 billion may be enough to build a new hospital for your cancer treatment, and it could be enough to build new schools and pay for extra teachers for your children. Still think benefit fraud is a victimless crime? It's not - and we're all victims of these fraudsters, aren't we?

You're right, it's fine to feel angry at benefit fraud and there is a lot of it about.

But Mumsnet has a very weird take on it. Apparently it doesn't affect anyone and everyone should just turn a blind eye to it.

Of course if the treasury hadn't paid out 7.4 billion last year in fraudulent claims, it could be spent elsewhere. The NHS perhaps, social services, CAHMs. If benefits cheats didn't exist we could all pay less tax.

It is theft. It's morally no different that scamming pensioners or shop lifting. Everyone should be doing their bit to make society a better place, reporting crime helps make society a better place. Stealing money is a crime.

Really? How many posters on this thread have said not to report?
many have raised issues regarding type of benefit, evidence of the £40k, jealousy, whether the relative is fit to work or not..

You sound jealous

No, they’re not. They’re in fact what is termed as “wrong.” Empirically so.

Bit rude . The poster is correct in what they say.

Sorry, I meant a large amount of money. I know it's not that much. But If it's over £16k then it's fraud.

Nope, that’s not how it works and that’s why I included the link I did. Have a good read through the methodology.

You seem to be struggling with reading comprehension, most people on this thread are not against reporting.

Waiting to hear again from social justice warrior @Hastentoadd

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-financial-year-2021-to-2022-estimates/background-information-fraud-and-error-in-the-benefit-system-statistics-2021-to-2022-estimates

I never understand why people get uppity about reporting it, what other things would you turn a blind eye to? If you are certain of your facts then yes definitely report it. I think it's prob more rife than a lot of people assume. I had a loosely related family member and they got caught out and quite right too.

The figures are low because it isn’t being reported and they are not being reported as it seems most people are against reporting which is extremely evident from this post

If all suspect benefit fraud was reported the figures would be much higher

Hundreds of thousands?

Can I ask you if they really review everyone on universal credit or only the ones who have been reported.
i was recently interviewed to check I was getting the right amount of universal credit and I want to know if someone has reported.

i went on holidays and gym with very limited income (no benefits)

how?

I never spend any money on anything, ever. Literally. only essentials. People made fun of me of wearing the same clothes for 15 years. It’s ridiculous how cheap I was. Literally never went out in 15 years. Most people would never want to live the way I did.

saved every penny. Had many money saving hacks too

Grandparent helped with gym (went for health reasons) and holiday was the only thing I spent money on. I was also good finding good inexpensive holiday deals.

my parents also helped out and gave me money to go on holiday.

what I’m trying to say is, you don’t know a persons whole financial situation and how they manage to afford things.

many would be jealous of me going on holiday and gym, but they wouldn’t want to save like I did.

If she's genuinely got hundreds of thousands in savings then it's bang out of order. I usually tell people to mind their own in a lot of posts about reporting "suspected" benefit fraud.

But this seems like a flagrant breach of the rules.

There are some benefits like pip which aren't means tested, so she can have as much money as she likes. But with UC I guess you should report.

That is none of my business? Absolutely!

For all op knows the person has something else going on body wise so can't work anyway.

Yeap. She'd be twitching her curtains at every little treat you give yourself

Ok clearly you’re struggling here. The government does its own highly targeted estimates on both under and over/fraudulent claiming. The figures are low because the figures are low.

@ilovesooty as I said he could be making it up, I've lived next to him for over 40 years, he never spends any money doesn't even have a stair carpet, he chose to live like this.