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To report this as benefit fraud

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 15:08

A relative is claiming benefits, can’t work due to health but is one of those who is always complaining about something wrong with her but is always able to do the things she wants to do. Can holiday abroad, always down the gym, etc. When she was working she was always making complaints against employers- one of life’s victims.

She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her.

I’m so fed up of seeing people like her take the piss. I 100% support a welfare system and it really pisses me off to see it abused like this. And meanwhile we are working our arses off and not able to afford the foreign travel and gym memberships.

I’m so tempted to report her secret savings to DWP.

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Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:23

It must be nice to have the time and headspace to worry about nothing but the details of your friend's financial arrangements.

Whoarethoseguys · 15/04/2025 17:23

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 16:40

Don’t you think benefit fraud impacts the taxpayer?

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Are you completely sure its benefit fraud. Some benefit are not based on income or savings. Do you know exactly what benefits she is claiming ?
I don't think going on holiday means she is able to cope with a job

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:23

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2025 17:21

I understand it but can you prove it? Say for example a grandparent died the mother inherited and says to the daughter I'm investing this money for you for when I'm gone that isn't illegal because the money was never in the daughters name nor was it in the will to go to the daughter so therfore no fraud and unless the mother goes into a home that money will come to.them

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That’s not the same as moving your money out to someone else to pretend you don’t have money

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ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 17:22

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:18

It’s not going in any particular direction. Im
interested to see what others think. I’m shocked how many people think you can hide your capital. I’m surprised how many people think that someone committing fraud should be left to it and if they get reported it’s the reporter who is the problem not the fraudster.

I tend not to listen to all the bollocks, benefit bashing headlines. But this thread has actually supported a lot of the spin disappointingly.

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Just report them then. Job done.
As pp have mentioned this is just a benefit bashing thread disguised as you being public spirited and not wanted hard working tax payers to be taken advantage of.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:21

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:20

I imagine she does realise - all too well.

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Actually no. Not a benefit basher by nature. Fully supportive of welfare system.
Fully unsupportive of benefit fraud.

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Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:21

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:19

why would you hide your savings ?

You don't know that she has.All you know is:

"She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her"

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2025 17:21

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:11

You can’t just give money away so you can claim benefits. Shocked how many people don’t understand this.

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I understand it but can you prove it? Say for example a grandparent died the mother inherited and says to the daughter I'm investing this money for you for when I'm gone that isn't illegal because the money was never in the daughters name nor was it in the will to go to the daughter so therfore no fraud and unless the mother goes into a home that money will come to.them

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:20

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:15

I don't think the thread is quite going as OP hoped. Maybe she doesn't realise there have been so many threads like this recently.

I imagine she does realise - all too well.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:19

why would you hide your savings ?

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Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:19

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:18

It’s not going in any particular direction. Im
interested to see what others think. I’m shocked how many people think you can hide your capital. I’m surprised how many people think that someone committing fraud should be left to it and if they get reported it’s the reporter who is the problem not the fraudster.

I tend not to listen to all the bollocks, benefit bashing headlines. But this thread has actually supported a lot of the spin disappointingly.

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How do you know she is fraudulent? You don't know which benefits she is getting.

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 17:18

JohnTheRevelator · 15/04/2025 17:14

We all know that people who are sick or disabled are not allowed to go on holiday,or to the gym. They are expected to stay indoors,preferably in bed. I mean,who the hell do they think they are,acting like normal human beings?

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My mum sometimes pays for a little holiday for me (I am on benefits). I was told on here that it was fraud. How? No idea!

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:18

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:15

I don't think the thread is quite going as OP hoped. Maybe she doesn't realise there have been so many threads like this recently.

It’s not going in any particular direction. Im
interested to see what others think. I’m shocked how many people think you can hide your capital. I’m surprised how many people think that someone committing fraud should be left to it and if they get reported it’s the reporter who is the problem not the fraudster.

I tend not to listen to all the bollocks, benefit bashing headlines. But this thread has actually supported a lot of the spin disappointingly.

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Coffeeishot · 15/04/2025 17:17

JohnTheRevelator · 15/04/2025 17:14

We all know that people who are sick or disabled are not allowed to go on holiday,or to the gym. They are expected to stay indoors,preferably in bed. I mean,who the hell do they think they are,acting like normal human beings?

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They are allowed a "standard of living " but not too high though , keep them in their place !

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:17

JohnTheRevelator · 15/04/2025 17:14

We all know that people who are sick or disabled are not allowed to go on holiday,or to the gym. They are expected to stay indoors,preferably in bed. I mean,who the hell do they think they are,acting like normal human beings?

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They are expected to stay indoors,preferably in bed

Bed? A pallet of straw is good enough.

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:15

I don't think the thread is quite going as OP hoped. Maybe she doesn't realise there have been so many threads like this recently.

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2025 17:15

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 16:39

Yes it may well sound petty and vindictive. And I’ve not done anything for the reason that that is not my nature.
But i’m angry that someone can have £40k in savings and do nothing, whilst we work full time and have no savings because the cost of living is extortionate. It’s very upsetting actually. And she thinks it’s absolutely fine to do it, to essentially steal from other working people. And lots of people here also seem to think it’s ok, so that’s an interesting reflection of society at present isn’t it.

Do you know for sure? Because you should if your going to throw a nuke in someone's life you should know for absolute certain

JohnTheRevelator · 15/04/2025 17:14

We all know that people who are sick or disabled are not allowed to go on holiday,or to the gym. They are expected to stay indoors,preferably in bed. I mean,who the hell do they think they are,acting like normal human beings?

Gustavo77 · 15/04/2025 17:13

That's being nasty and sticking your nose into something that has nothing to do with you, you also don't know their full circumstances even though you might think you do.

Stop being vindictive and mind your own business.

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:13

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:11

You can’t just give money away so you can claim benefits. Shocked how many people don’t understand this.

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Shocked how many people don't realise some benefits are not means tested. So your friend could be doing nothing wrong.

BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 17:12

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:11

You can’t just give money away so you can claim benefits. Shocked how many people don’t understand this.

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You are right. You can't come into money and give it away. It is still seen as deprivation of capital.
But your relative may be on benefits that are not means tested anyway. So what she has does not matter.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/04/2025 17:12

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 16:39

Yes it may well sound petty and vindictive. And I’ve not done anything for the reason that that is not my nature.
But i’m angry that someone can have £40k in savings and do nothing, whilst we work full time and have no savings because the cost of living is extortionate. It’s very upsetting actually. And she thinks it’s absolutely fine to do it, to essentially steal from other working people. And lots of people here also seem to think it’s ok, so that’s an interesting reflection of society at present isn’t it.

DLA isn't means tested.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/04/2025 17:11

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 16:57

Is it making trouble? Or has she made her own trouble by planning fraud?

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she doesn’t have trouble at the minute, you’d be making it for her. It may be deserved but yeah you’d still be doing it

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:11

PhilippaGeorgiou · 15/04/2025 17:04

If her mother has the money then it isn't her money - nothing to report.

SIgh, I wonder how many more benefits bashing threads we can take. If the OP wanted to report someone for fraud they didn't need a MN thread to give them permission, so there really is only one reason for the thread.

You can’t just give money away so you can claim benefits. Shocked how many people don’t understand this.

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MrsMoastyToasty · 15/04/2025 17:10

DLA and PIP are not means tested. You could have a million in the bank and claim it. Even former Prime Minister David Cameron was able to claim it for his child Ivan.

BillyBoe46 · 15/04/2025 17:10

ESA, DLA and PIP and not means tested. Shes could be allowed saving.

UC is £316 Pcm (under 25) and £400 Pcm (over 25). I don't imagine she is on UC and going on holidays.