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To report this as benefit fraud

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 15:08

A relative is claiming benefits, can’t work due to health but is one of those who is always complaining about something wrong with her but is always able to do the things she wants to do. Can holiday abroad, always down the gym, etc. When she was working she was always making complaints against employers- one of life’s victims.

She sold a property a couple of years ago and has squirrelled about £40k away through investments. I think has got her mother to do this for her.

I’m so fed up of seeing people like her take the piss. I 100% support a welfare system and it really pisses me off to see it abused like this. And meanwhile we are working our arses off and not able to afford the foreign travel and gym memberships.

I’m so tempted to report her secret savings to DWP.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:34

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:33

OP seems to be avoiding answering the most vital question: which benefits is this person claiming?

UC long term. Possibly pip.

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ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 17:33

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:33

OP seems to be avoiding answering the most vital question: which benefits is this person claiming?

Indeed!

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 15/04/2025 17:33

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:31

The authorities can see money in a bank account and ask you to evidence where it has gone. That happens all the time.

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Especially now that DWP are asking people for their bank statements, PayPal statements etc & also have the power to check for hidden bank accounts.

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:33

OP seems to be avoiding answering the most vital question: which benefits is this person claiming?

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:32

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:31

So you're going to tell them you're going to report them for fraud, yet you haven't stated that you know for certain that all her benefits are means tested ones.

Yes.

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ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:31

So you're going to tell them you're going to report them for fraud, yet you haven't stated that you know for certain that all her benefits are means tested ones.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:31

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The authorities can see money in a bank account and ask you to evidence where it has gone. That happens all the time.

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BlessedBeTheGroot · 15/04/2025 17:30

Theunamedcat · 15/04/2025 17:21

I understand it but can you prove it? Say for example a grandparent died the mother inherited and says to the daughter I'm investing this money for you for when I'm gone that isn't illegal because the money was never in the daughters name nor was it in the will to go to the daughter so therfore no fraud and unless the mother goes into a home that money will come to.them

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I know someone where this did happen. Her mum inherited and gifted some to all her kids. One was on UC and it would have been affected. So mum has kept the money for them and gives it as and when needed.
They went to CAB and they were told it was fine as the money was gifted and you can refuse a gift. Actual inheritance is different as you are named in the will.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:29

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 15/04/2025 17:26

At the end of the day, as tax payers, this is all our money that is being stolen. It means that there is less in the 'pot' for other things such as the NHS as, as we have to with our personal finances, the Govt have to balance the books. If a relative was regularly dipping into your bank account you'd do something.

Ready to be shot down in flames & accused of being a fascist now. 😩

No, some of the posters here would let them dip in the bank account because it would be vindictive to make trouble for them.

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Coffeeishot · 15/04/2025 17:28

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:26

Yes.

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There you are then you have it sorted.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:28

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 15/04/2025 17:26

At the end of the day, as tax payers, this is all our money that is being stolen. It means that there is less in the 'pot' for other things such as the NHS as, as we have to with our personal finances, the Govt have to balance the books. If a relative was regularly dipping into your bank account you'd do something.

Ready to be shot down in flames & accused of being a fascist now. 😩

Absolutely.
it’s not a crime without consequence. It’s money coming from somewhere.

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ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:27

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:26

Yes.

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Good. So you don't need the might of Mumsnet to validate you.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:27

Ethelflaedofmercia · 15/04/2025 17:26

My cousin is exactly the same. Been on benefits and goes abroad/gym etc… the difference is that I don’t care.

Just say his benefits were taken away, will I pay less tax? No. Will I be able to afford those things? No.

just concentrate on your life, it’ll make you happier

Where does it end?

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Coffeeishot · 15/04/2025 17:27

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 17:25

Amazes me on this type of thread that people seem to ‘know ‘ so much about their neighbour’s/friend’s/ relative’s financial situation.

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As I said yesterday on a thread I don't know what my children earn,/financial situations never mind friends or relatives

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 15/04/2025 17:26

At the end of the day, as tax payers, this is all our money that is being stolen. It means that there is less in the 'pot' for other things such as the NHS as, as we have to with our personal finances, the Govt have to balance the books. If a relative was regularly dipping into your bank account you'd do something.

Ready to be shot down in flames & accused of being a fascist now. 😩

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:26

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:24

So are you going to tell the people concerned that they're fraudsters and you're going to report them?

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Yes.

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Ethelflaedofmercia · 15/04/2025 17:26

My cousin is exactly the same. Been on benefits and goes abroad/gym etc… the difference is that I don’t care.

Just say his benefits were taken away, will I pay less tax? No. Will I be able to afford those things? No.

just concentrate on your life, it’ll make you happier

valentinka31 · 15/04/2025 17:26

Well I guess the money from property that was given to another person isn't relevant, even though in reality it's a kind of insurance for her.

Going to the gym and going on holiday is not not allowed on benefits. Going to the gym is a health activity that will, if you think about it, possibly reduce her cost to the NHS for treatment for being unhealthy.

I guess she's had some kind of assessment re: health, she will have had to have a continuous fit note from her GP and also fit for work assessments at regular intervals. What's wrong with her in terms of the listed ailment(s)?

You do sound very angry. I can understand why, but at the same time I don't think I'd advocate getting in the middle of it. I think I'd leave it be. Many people take the mick around us, not just with benefits, but in how they deal with other people, scam people, rob people, are mean, etc. Life is full of bad behaviour.

I'd concentrate on making your own life as good as possible and try not to get wound up by others.

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:25

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:23

It must be nice to have the time and headspace to worry about nothing but the details of your friend's financial arrangements.

It's a relative. Hopefully she's going to be transparent about why she's going to dob them in.

ShanghaiDiva · 15/04/2025 17:25

Whoarethoseguys · 15/04/2025 17:23

Are you completely sure its benefit fraud. Some benefit are not based on income or savings. Do you know exactly what benefits she is claiming ?
I don't think going on holiday means she is able to cope with a job

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Amazes me on this type of thread that people seem to ‘know ‘ so much about their neighbour’s/friend’s/ relative’s financial situation.

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ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:25

Notposting · 15/04/2025 17:23

It must be nice to have the time and headspace to worry about nothing but the details of your friend's financial arrangements.

Oh behave. If the criteria for a Mumsnet post was “this is the only thing I have time or headspace to worry about” it would be a small forum.

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Coffeeishot · 15/04/2025 17:24

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:23

That’s not the same as moving your money out to someone else to pretend you don’t have money

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What do you want people to say what is the purpose of your thread ?

iwentjasonwaterfalls · 15/04/2025 17:24

Look, you clearly want to report her - so do it. Tell her you're reporting her, don't be a coward.

We aren't going to pat you on the back and say "oh aren't you good, aren't you clever, tackling benefit fraud one relative at a time, well done you". This thread is pointless.

ilovesooty · 15/04/2025 17:24

ClareClareClareClare · 15/04/2025 17:21

Actually no. Not a benefit basher by nature. Fully supportive of welfare system.
Fully unsupportive of benefit fraud.

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So are you going to tell the people concerned that they're fraudsters and you're going to report them?