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Canwehaveahotsummer · 15/04/2025 07:38

There was a conversation at work between myself and two colleagues. We are all roughly the same age give or take 5 years. I’ll call them Sam, Hannah and me.

Sam was saying how she was going to visit her mum but how she’d have to eat lasagne again, as her mum always makes lasagne when she visits. She was saying how she hates lasange and it makes her want to gag.

I asked Sam why she doesn’t just kindly tell her mum that she doesn’t like lasagne and ask if she could make something else.

Sam and Hannah both looked at me like I had two heads. Sam said that she couldn’t say that.

Hannah then said that I would think that because I hadn’t been brought up well, like Sam had and so wouldn’t understand that you can’t say things like that.

It played on my mind a bit because I do have doubts and insecurities about my background, but I don’t think I’m rude or behave in a rude way.

When I first met my now dh he was making poached eggs for us a lot when I stayed at his house. He made the eggs very very runny, and they were getting more runny each time to the point that they were quite slimy. I mentioned it once and said I liked mine slightly more cooked. He got really upset and said that I was out of order and how if someone makes you food you should eat it and shut up whether you like it or not.

I don’t see it that way, so for example I always made scrambled eggs and they were a bit shit. Dh (around the same time as he got upset with me) showed me how to make them a better way and I took it on board as they were definitely better ‘his way’.

I certainly wouldn’t go round to anyone’s house and start criticising their cooking. But if a very close family member such as my mum or Dh was making repeatedly something that I hated I would gently ask if we could perhaps have something else.
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AthWat · 15/04/2025 09:20

When it's a one-off, you shut up and eat it.

When it's someone who might be cooking for you reguarly, you tell them.

When it's your mother and you've been eating it for years, it's pretty awkward. I can't see myself though, how their mother could think they like it if they've beren giving it to them since they were kids. Kids are not backward about saying they don't like things; and even if they are told not to complain, would show by their actions whether they were keen on something or not. A mother would have to be pretty oblivious not to have noticed her kids hate something she's giving them regularly.

Canwehaveahotsummer · 15/04/2025 09:19

Strangely I think I was so hurt by the comment, I don’t think I had really considered how rude it was of Hannah to say what she did.

I grew up with a lot of negativity about where we lived, a lot of snobbery so I think I always internalised that those who were more well off were ‘better’ and knew better.

I am learning to get out of this mindset but it’s a hard one to shake off.

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Summerlilly · 15/04/2025 09:15

So I’ve been brought up wrong then.

Sam and Hannah should be a bit more concerned with how they have been raised.
I have an intolerance to fish, am I considered not polite or raised wrong because I decline something that makes me poorly..
Absolute madness

huuskymam · 15/04/2025 09:11

If I was invited to a friends for dinner, I'd probably grin and bear it. But as an adult my mum would already know what I like and don't like anyway. I find it weird that she wouldn't just say she doesn't like it. The mum is probably making it cause she thinks it's her favourite, with her eating it every time she visits. I'd much prefer my kids to tell me if they don't like something (which they do when I make something new), I wouldn't go through the effort of making it again.

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 15/04/2025 09:11

You’re really not badly brought up but your colleagues might be as they’ve been so rude to you. And absolute wet wipes if they don’t have the balls to tell their own parents they don’t like to eat bloody lasagne.

BigDahliaFan · 15/04/2025 09:06

I don't know...I've never found a way of telling my friend politely that the lasagne she invariably makes when we go round just isn't great and we eat it out of politeness - and really isn't the best lasagne in the world.

Newnameshoos · 15/04/2025 09:05

Oh, and @Canwehaveahotsummer no I don't think you were being rude or badly brought up. If I was your mother and making what I thought was your favourite food and it ended up not being, I'd be mortified!
Is it that she likes lasagne but noone else other than you does? So the only time she can eat her favourite?!

FOJN · 15/04/2025 09:04

So it's OK to say someone is badly bought up, in a professional setting, but rude to tell your mum you don't like lasagne?

Your colleague was rude to you and she was rude about her mum because she was complaining to other people about her food rather than telling her mum she's not a fan of lasagne.

If her behaviour is an example of being well bought up I'm happy to be an oik.

RedSkyDelights · 15/04/2025 09:04

I couldn't tell my mother if I didn't like something either.
And I was also told that "respecting" my parents was desirable and that meant not questioning what they told you.
So I get where the "badly brought up" comment comes from. But sadly, suspect it comes from your colleagues being brought up in a controlling family, and not having yet realised how many ideas they have absorbed and not thought about them from an outside perspective.

Newnameshoos · 15/04/2025 09:03

I grew up having to eat everything and not complain. If we didn't finish a meal, it was given to us again, cold (assuming it had been hot in the first place), the next mealtime. I went veggie as a teenager to avoid eating the tough, over-cooked meat that we were served. My mother's response to that was to not serve the meat to me, so I got potatoes and overcooked watery veg for years. Probably not surprising I ended up with disordered eating.
I would far rather someone tells me their preferences than eat something to be polite.

Lascivious · 15/04/2025 09:02

I would suggest your colleagues have very strange and unnatural relationships with their families if they can’t say something as innocuous as ‘I hate lasagne’.

QueefQueen80s · 15/04/2025 09:02

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/04/2025 08:59

They are ridiculous and probably the sort of people who have terrrible sex lives because they can’t ask for what they want. They are the ones who have been neglected in my opinion as they lack assertiveness.

🤣

EdithBond · 15/04/2025 09:02

CheeseNPickle3 · 15/04/2025 08:57

Manners are about being considerate of others and making them feel comfortable.

Surely telling your work colleagues behind your mum's back that her food makes you "gag" is beyond rude.

If I were Sam's mum I'd be very hurt by that and the fact that she felt she couldn't tell me herself that she'd like something different. Presumably her mum wants her to enjoy visits and make something special for her?

As PP have said, if it's a one off where you're a guest of someone you don't know well then you probably have to just eat a bit to be polite, but if it's a regular thing with a family member then I think not saying something (gently and politely) borders on dishonest.

Agree. If I were her mum and found that out I’d feel so sad. I encourage my kids to be honest with me, though they’re still working on doing it with tact 😂

SonK · 15/04/2025 09:01

They are weird including your husband, you are the normal one x

QueefQueen80s · 15/04/2025 09:01

Sounds like she was badly brought up in that she can’t have an open comfortable relationship with her family.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 15/04/2025 09:00

I think if lasagne were being served once and it was merely dislike, I'd suck it up. Bad mannered not to.

But if it was every time, I'd politely say that I'd prefer something else in advance (whilst trying not to imply I found it horrible). I managed to do this with my own parents.

However, I admit I was a complete mouse with my ILs - who served lasagne with buttered jacket potato (baffling side in itself), when I was temporarily off dairy due to breastfeeding.

Partly because I was desperate for cheese by this point and partly because it was enough of a job to stop MIL feeding it to my lactose-intolerant son. I looked pregnant afterwards I swelled up so much.

Managed to get DH to have a word, and next time I had the full works of dairy free cheese presented to me.

FortyElephants · 15/04/2025 08:59

Hannah is a rude twat!

I know some people can choke down any food even if they don't like it, and they take some weird pride in it like it's a moral virtue. Other people like me get mocked and called fussy because we can't do that. I physically couldn't force myself to eat something I don't like, I would gag and retch which I think is far more rude. It's not a moral failing to have a sensitive sense of taste.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/04/2025 08:59

They are ridiculous and probably the sort of people who have terrrible sex lives because they can’t ask for what they want. They are the ones who have been neglected in my opinion as they lack assertiveness.

CheeseNPickle3 · 15/04/2025 08:57

Manners are about being considerate of others and making them feel comfortable.

Surely telling your work colleagues behind your mum's back that her food makes you "gag" is beyond rude.

If I were Sam's mum I'd be very hurt by that and the fact that she felt she couldn't tell me herself that she'd like something different. Presumably her mum wants her to enjoy visits and make something special for her?

As PP have said, if it's a one off where you're a guest of someone you don't know well then you probably have to just eat a bit to be polite, but if it's a regular thing with a family member then I think not saying something (gently and politely) borders on dishonest.

EdithBond · 15/04/2025 08:57

Canwehaveahotsummer · 15/04/2025 08:25

Yes, she literally said “you wouldn’t understand because you haven’t been brought up well like Sam has”.

It played on my mind because I did grow up on a council estate with barely any money. Whereas most of my colleague (and dh) were more middle class.

I don’t go around going on about where I grew up, but perhaps it shows.

Be proud of your background. Most people who grew up in council housing and without much money have had a great upbringing. Upbringing’s to do with learned values (community, kindness, generosity, trust) rather than material things.

Ginmonkeyagain · 15/04/2025 08:55

Of course it is ok to express food preferences. The nuance is in how you communicate that and willingness to be a bit flexible and polite if you are served something that isn't exactly how you like it (with exceptions of course for allergies or religious/belief restrictions).

Pomegranatecarnage · 15/04/2025 08:52

EdithBond · 15/04/2025 08:19

No, you haven’t been badly brought up.

You communicate directly and assertively and with consideration and humility. You value the same in others.

You don’t slag off your mum’s cooking to work colleagues.

Women shouldn’t be brought up to be agreeable and voiceless.

Nailed it! This is what I’d say to them if it’s brought up again.

Pomegranatecarnage · 15/04/2025 08:49

This is interesting! My children will tell me if they don’t like something I’ve cooked. I prefer this as I don’t want to waste time and energy cooking food that’s not enjoyable. The same with friends. However, they won’t tell their father if he cooks something not to their taste as he gets offended and a bit sulky. I always told my Mum growing up if I wasn’t keen on something and she was fine with it- we all have different tastes. However I wouldn’t have told my late MIL as she would’ve been offended and upset and taken it personally!
I’d rather an honest and authentic relationship any day. It’s odd in my opinion to have an ego so fragile that you can’t take an honest opinion.

Onelifeonly · 15/04/2025 08:46

Sounds like Sam has a controlling mother and Hannah doesn't know what good manners are. You've no reason to doubt yourself OP. Feel sorry for them.

aster10 · 15/04/2025 08:42

I’m curious about Sam and Hannah’s somment, the essence of which is “We are better than you”. I wouldn’t consider people friends after this sort of comment.