I hate having two kids

You're easily amused aren't you! And you reference immaturity?

Mine didn't. We also live in a quiet cul de sac but I saw other children out running the streets and didn't want that for mine. There's a corner at the end of our street and sometimes cars can approach quite quickly.

None of the parents were particularly supervising that I ever saw! DC1 was the one that wanted to be out and I remember saying no, that's what DC2 was for! They played in our and other neighbours' back gardens. We were far from the only family either whose kids didn't hang out in the street.

Not everyone does the same thing.

I’ve got two children also with no family network as we moved to another country. With their current ages you’re right in the thick of it. It gets easier. Mine are 6 and 8 now and they’re my little best friends. Truly wonderful seeing how they’re growing!

Ahh OP I really feel for you. I have one DC daughter (about to be 2) and we’re thinking of trying for our second (and final) child next year. I am scared of having 2, the thought of going through the newborn stage again which I hated or having to spread myself between 2 kiddies is stressing me out. As you’ve commented, nothing you can do now of course and if you had had only 1, I bet you’d be questioning if you’d done the right thing and wondering about a second child.
id say take each day as it comes, use the free childcare hours if you can, use screen time a tiny bit if it helps. I am worried about having a second but I also know how much I love my siblings and how it’ll just be a stage in my life. Good luck OP

I have two and love it! Back when they were young was difficult, not gonna lie. They’re 19 months apart (I wanted 2 year gap but life isn’t like that). Their dad always pulled his weight but it was still exhausting. No one in my family EVER had them overnight, and so I had no respite. I never regretted having them though and enjoyed 99% of the time with them.

Maybe you could have some counselling if you are struggling with them, or could you have PND perhaps? Either way some support sounds like it’s needed. Hope you can get some help from your husband and that he recognises you need professional help. Good luck.

Yeah as neither of them live with me And yeah I regularly hated having 2 kids when they were small

Do you hate having 2 kids though? Is it not easier now than when they were 2 and 4?

Doesn't stop the " she's looking at me" or " she's breathing my air"

Can you tell me when they actually stop bickering. My two ( both in their 30s ) were bickering today

Is this for me? It's highly amusing and immature is what it is. I actually laughed out loud at your 25% comment😂. Also you said children can't go out between the ages of 4 and 8. Ok, you mean yours couldn't/didn't. That's fine but don't tell others what to do. Can you quote my post where I said parents of more than 1 were superior?

You started this with your shitty comment about parents of more than one child somehow being superior. Just paying you back with the same attitude. Not nice is it.

WTF? It's not a competition. I didn't mind supervising my child, parents are supposed to supervise children. Clearly it's a chore to you. Each to their own.

You're still on a supervision rota, whereas I don't need to watch them even 25% of the time in the garden/at home.

People are allowed to be sharp when they're fed up of stupid responses. So posters can say what they want but an OP can't? I think not.

Says who? 😂My DD was out from 4. It was a quiet cul de sac. All the kids went out with a parent taking it in turns to supervise. If the weather was bad we took turns of having them at our houses. It worked really well.

My youngest two are 9 and 7 and always fighting.

But my older DC are 17 and 14 and get on really well! It does eventually get better 😌 hang tight🫂

There have been days when I have hated having two kids, I hated the situation not the kids!
People who are stressed and worn out don't always phrase things perfectly 🤷‍♀️
I found the best way to deal with it was to give the older one a little bit of responsibility for 'helping me' with the youngest. When my youngest was two my oldest was five and a half. Getting him to help me find her coat or put her shoes on etc seemed to make him feel more nurturing towards her, once she saw him as a 'care giver' she responded better when he wanted her to do something which cut down on the squabbling.
Mine are now 18 almost 15, there are very few arguments and we live in a (mostly) calm home.
I don't need him to help me find her shoes anymore 😉

Seeing some of your sharp responses, I think problem is with your attitude.

You should see a CBT therapist for your sake and sake of your kids.

Those of us who are mothers know what a nightmare life is during those early years. We know that the "two year gap", which looks so perfect on paper, is an absolute nightmare in reality.

when was the last time you came on a social media platform and actually stated that you "hate, hate, having two children"? Those poor children.

it's just a very unpleasant thing to say. I wasn't able to have much empathy towards someone who'd attention-seek to that extent. All they needed to say was, I'm really struggling, I've had a nightmare of a day etc please can I have support. it was the worst type of attention-seeking that SM engenders, just for the clicks.

It gets easier! Hang in there. It is hard when they are little. I found it all got easier when my youngest hit 3.5yrs and my eldest was 6. And every year easier again.

My two are now 6 and 10 and it's brilliant, they are great company to talk with and hangout with and they play together and watch TV together and keep eachother company. I'm really glad I had two for this reason.

Isn’t it lovely that this is what people are saying about the loss of her child though. Effectively “well she brought it on herself 👀”

Ghouls.

Buy two of everything (identical) so there is less to squabble over.

The guilt tripping on here is awful and is exactly why MN has a bad name.

The OP is having a bad day, she vented on here and got "I am that child, do better" "A woman who complained about having two kids had one of her kids die!".......FFS.

Those of us who are mothers know what a nightmare life is during those early years. We know that the "two year gap", which looks so perfect on paper, is an absolute nightmare in reality.

What do you get out of being so vile to someone else? Does it make you feel better about being a crap human being?

I'm sure she'd love the idea of you using her children's tragic deaths to attempt to make a mother feel guilty.

The vast majority of parents all complain about their children at some point because raising children isn't easy. The vast majority of parents also say something or type something that they don't really mean because they are venting and everyone knows that they don't really mean it.