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What is the UK like to live in now?

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Arianasande · 14/04/2025 09:06

Im originally from the UK. I currently live in Spain and I have done for the last five years. I work in student services. I interviewed for a job in the UK last year, didn't get it but she told me she'd keep my details on file. They just rang me this year and asked me would I like to do an interview again as the job has become available again.

I said why not and did the interview. They've offered me the job. The job and benefits are really good, and it's in a nice part of the UK. And part of me would like to go back. I wanted to go back to the UK for a year. I love Spain but sometimes the language barrier can be hard. And I wanted to live somewhere where everyone spoke English again for a while

However im also really nervous about going back to the UK.

What's making me nervous is that there are lot of English people working here in my school in Spain, and they are always telling me how awful the UK is now. That they hate it,that it's awful.

I know I won't really know until I decide to make the move. But I just wanted to know how do you think it is living in the UK now?

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Unpaidviewer · 14/04/2025 14:47

If you've got money, are earning well or able to be frugal then it's great. Lots of the issues are around price increases, house prices and childcare cost which are making people feel less well off.

ALunchbox · 14/04/2025 14:36

When did you leave the UK?
I personally think it's fine . I'm not from Britain but have lived here for 20 years now. Wouldn't dream of going back to my home country (EU)

LobeliaBaggins · 14/04/2025 14:31

Heh. I am originally from a " third world" country and no way is the UK that bad. They call us developing countries these days.😊

Obviously expats have to justify moving.

Arianasande · 14/04/2025 14:28

Dotjones · 14/04/2025 14:25

It depends where you will live and whether you will be able to have the lifestyle you want. The UK isn't completely different to how it was five or ten years ago, it's just a bit worse in every area of life. Prices are higher than they were and satisfaction with life is lower. Things are more run down and more crowded.

The thing to compare though is not so much "is the place I'm moving to worse than it was five years ago" - because yes, obviously it is. What you need to think about is where you will live, both area and property. A nice home in a nice area is still a nice place to live. Better areas are still better areas.

Yeah I know.

It's just everyone that I say it to here, that I'm moving to the UK, keep trying to talk me out of going.

They say "you don't realise how bad it is. It's like a third world hell on earth"

It's all extremely negative.

But I just need to make my own decision I know. If I make a mistake and hate it, I won't be trapped there

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Dotjones · 14/04/2025 14:25

It depends where you will live and whether you will be able to have the lifestyle you want. The UK isn't completely different to how it was five or ten years ago, it's just a bit worse in every area of life. Prices are higher than they were and satisfaction with life is lower. Things are more run down and more crowded.

The thing to compare though is not so much "is the place I'm moving to worse than it was five years ago" - because yes, obviously it is. What you need to think about is where you will live, both area and property. A nice home in a nice area is still a nice place to live. Better areas are still better areas.

Arianasande · 14/04/2025 14:24

What's making me a bit stressed is that any English people that i meet in Spain, tell me that the UK is a total sithole.

They say to me "you'd be a fool to move there. It's absolutely gone to the dogs".

Etc etc. When so many people tell me this, it does make me think, God how bad is it these days. Is it that bad

Still ill go and move to the UK and work there for a year. If I really don't like it, I can always move again.

Maybe I will like it

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Arianasande · 14/04/2025 14:22

Bollihobs · 14/04/2025 13:56

You do make it sound like you'd be going somewhere you've never experienced yet you are from the UK....

Haven't you been back at all to visit any family or any friends in the the years you been in Spain and Italy?

No. All of my close family have moved away from the UK too. They live in a different country to me. I don't have any close family living in the UK anymore.

People move around a lot these days.

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coxesorangepippin · 14/04/2025 14:15

I'd say it would greatly depend on where in the UK

BarneyRonson · 14/04/2025 14:13

It depends whereabouts you will be living. Unfortunately there are too many people in the UK now and something strange has happened to British Good Manners. They have been undermined by a laissez faire attitude / ignorance, so generally ones experience everywhere is less pleasant. There is more litter and less smiling. It’s very sad.

Bollihobs · 14/04/2025 14:02

SallyWD · 14/04/2025 12:35

It's highly variable. For some people living in poverty it's truly shit. For lucky people like me, it's great. We live in a nice house, in a beautiful area, great state schools, really good NHS service. We have a great life. I'm aware that maby people don't and inequality has increased hugely
If you're comfortable you can have an equally good life. If you live in a deprived area it can be horrible.

That summary would be valid for anywhere in the world, not just the UK - live in depravation and poverty and it's crap, wherever you are.

Bollihobs · 14/04/2025 13:56

Arianasande · 14/04/2025 10:22

I think I'm just a bit scared of change. But we all are !

You never really know what somewhere is like until you go there.

But I'm going to trust my gut and go to the UK

You do make it sound like you'd be going somewhere you've never experienced yet you are from the UK....

Haven't you been back at all to visit any family or any friends in the the years you been in Spain and Italy?

LobeliaBaggins · 14/04/2025 13:48

I don't have a problem with the weather. Prefer it to the blistering heat in my home country, especially with global warming kicking in.

But where I am in London, can barely get hold of my GP.
Still, things may be different where you are. Since you are single and have no dependents, I would give it a try for a year.

HermoineFairfax · 14/04/2025 13:19

Road conditions - potholes, uneven surfaces, poor markings

Spanish roads suffer from all the above too! Especially potholes.

IthinkIamAnAlien · 14/04/2025 12:49

It's interesting that the responses are more or less split between 'it depends where you live' and 'we have a great life' which demonstrates what an incredibly divided society the UK/England has become.

Where I live in the Cotswolds, people look down on us because we 'only' live in a 60s estate house whereas the area is packed with cottage dwellers driving 4x4s and enormous, over-wide new cars.

I would say this extends to the whole of the south and south west. Property prices are eye watering as are difficult-to-find rental properties; unapprehended shop lifting is the norm; train travel is absurdly expensive and the trains are dirty and packed; there is a lot of crime and an over-stretched police force, for instance, ebikes are popular now so there are gangs waiting on remote cycle paths like the Bristol-Bath path or canal towpaths, to attack ecyclists and steal their bikes. In general, people don't talk or answer their front doors of say thanks. On the roads, I've noticed that people don't signal at roundabouts or even stop at the give way lines, this is new and quite shocking.

On the other hand, perfectly nice people live quietly somewhere that is more decent, usually they have inherited money from a family house sale and can afford something better than average or they have a well-paying job or a double income of £100k or thereabouts.

I would say the UK will seem a shock after Spain but then it depends where you are thinking of living....

ByCoralMentor · 14/04/2025 12:38

I think it’s very much a postcode lottery so really research the area you will be living in well, such as the nhs in that region, I love the UK but my area isn’t working great

SallyWD · 14/04/2025 12:35

It's highly variable. For some people living in poverty it's truly shit. For lucky people like me, it's great. We live in a nice house, in a beautiful area, great state schools, really good NHS service. We have a great life. I'm aware that maby people don't and inequality has increased hugely
If you're comfortable you can have an equally good life. If you live in a deprived area it can be horrible.

lavenderlou · 14/04/2025 12:29

Things that you will find noticeable in the past 5 years:
Road conditions - potholes, uneven surfaces, poor markings
NHS care - difficult to get GP appointment, long waiting lists for referrals, very hard to get NHS dental care
Cost of living - food and energy costs in particular. Probably Spain has also seen some of these rises, although you will spend more on heating in the UK
General shabbiness - most towns and villages are not well kept and look more run down
Increase in dogs and dog poo
Lack of obvious police presence and "lower level" crime basically going uninvestigated

I expect most of these were already issues five years ago but have got worse since then.

AlicePottery · 14/04/2025 12:22

Yeah no sorry, I wasn't trying to be nasty but rereading my post it does come across that way 🙃.

Langdale3 · 14/04/2025 10:27

It depends where you will be living and how well that matches the things you value. What do you care about? What’s your ideal and how close would your new location be?

And I hear you about navigating the different languages in Spain!

Arianasande · 14/04/2025 10:22

I think I'm just a bit scared of change. But we all are !

You never really know what somewhere is like until you go there.

But I'm going to trust my gut and go to the UK

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Arianasande · 14/04/2025 10:18

AlicePottery · 14/04/2025 10:02

If you haven't managed to pick up the language to a reasonable degree after 5 years then I definitely wouldn't be staying in that particular part of Spain.
I can't comment on what living in the UK is like as I left in the 90s 😅. I wouldn't go back to live there but that's mainly because I feel like home is where I am now.
If you don't have any significant ties where you are now then I'd go for it, you can always move again in a year or so if you don't enjoy it. I'm sure there are plenty of places in different areas of Spain where there are a significant number of English speakers.
One thing you should take into account though is your visa status; if you currently have permission to stay and work in the EU then you might lose that if you move back to the UK (depending on which passports you hike obviously).

I don't think it's a case of not trying to learn.

I just think that spanish is one of the more difficult European languages. No matter how much I study it, I can never seem to get to a very good level with it.

It's the second fastest language in the world apparently. Meaning that Spanish speakers speak extremely extremely fast.

I lived in Italy for one year. And i found that I could learn italian much easier than spanish.. In that one year I could speak good Italian. I was chatting away to all the locals in Italian.

Spanish is a more difficult language in my opinion, so even though I have been here longer , I can't seem to get to a good level with it. My colleagues (including the spaniards) all speak English in my job

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rumred · 14/04/2025 10:18

It's mixed, similar to other 1st world countries I expect.
I love where I live, near Bradford, there's community, lots of green space and good transport links. I could moan about alsorts but I'm grateful to be alive now. Life was not better in previous decades, just different. But it all depends on what is important to you personally.

Fluffyholeysocks · 14/04/2025 10:17

It's fine, food more expensive but I've noticed that it's more expensive in Spain too. But the potholes are worse. Hope you aren't a cyclist!

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 14/04/2025 10:12

The job and benefits are really good, and it's in a nice part of the UK

If you are single and its 50K somewhere in Wales or south west etc. 100% Crack on
Yog can live a good life.

40k in the SE...? don't bother.

London and SE are prohibitively expensive especially if you have children and no generational wealth.
This forum is littered with threads like "i earn 120k pa where are we going wrong?" Etc.
Answer is: no where
Childcare is costing 2.5k pm so is your rent or mortgage. Bills are 1k Once you've fed and clothed yourselves you have enough money to put petrol in your 6yr old yaris and that's it

Hazeby · 14/04/2025 10:12

It’s lovely OP. Great countryside and beaches, historical cities, buzzing London, friendly people always ready with a joke. Pubs.

Compared to Spain, I think you will miss the weather and the healthcare but otherwise, nothing wrong with it at all.