Death penalty for these evil prisoners

Nope, the death penalty is never justified. Ever. It's not a deterrent, it makes terrorists into martyrs, loads of people subsequently proven innocent have been executed, and it's not even cost-effective. Because of all the legal processes that have to be gone through, execution in the US costs millions of dollars and is MASSIVELY more expensive than the cost of life without parole, even if that person ends up in jail for 60+ years.

Southport? Manchester Arena? Lee Rigby? The fairground paedophile torture and murder gang? The Killamarsh murders?
Remorseless monsters need to be put to death.

It would save the country a lot of money too
That's not the case in other developed countries. Usually, death penalty sentences result in a much longer trials and a signficantly prolonged appeals process (which, to be fair, they should) and the increased legal costs usually greatly outweigh the savings of shorter incarceration.

In the US, death penalty cases can cost the state up to ten times more than life imprisonment.

ejusa.org/resource/wasteful-inefficient/

Some people (like the criminal in the op) are absolute shits, deserve no sympathy and the world would be a better place without them.

But I'm still opposed to the death penalty.

We know that innocent people have been hanged in the past. Others who were convicted of serious crimes after the repeal of capital punishment, served years in prison before their sentences were overturned because they were innocent eg the Guildford 4, Birmingham 6, Colin Stagg and Stefan Kiszko (16 years in prison, died a year after his release, I remember his lovely mum who spent years campaigning for him). If they had been convicted at a time when the death penalty was available, they would have been sentenced to be killed.

If we don't have the death penalty, vile people will be imprisoned at the tax payers' expense.

If we do have the death penalty, innocent people will be killed on our behalf.

I think that the former is by far the lesser of 2 evils.

That and, it costs substantially more to serve the death penalty than it does to imprison someone for life so the argument over costs is null and void.

We’re too civilised now and it will be our downfall.

This has got me conflicted and I am usually anti- capital punishment. I don't believe this man is capable of remorse or rehabilitation, sadly.

The best thing to be might be to accidentally ensure some of his prison enemies have access to him...

I totally agree. He is no longer a risk to public safety but in the confines of a prison, a higher risk to the other prisoners and the prison staff who are not paid enough to face this evil monster.
It would save the country a lot of money too

I’ll never agree with the death penalty. It doesn’t matter if the courts only make a mistake once every 100 years, it’s too late then. A posthumous pardon doesn’t mean a lot to a corpse 🤷‍♀️

Besides, I’d say that life without parole in solitary confinement is a fate worse than death anyway.

But he’s hardly innocent and his behaviour shows he cares nothing for other people, there are plenty of people in prison where there is no doubt of their guilt, the piece of sh1t from Stockport as a prime example, who really don’t deserve to live

And incentivises others to kill more people. Death penalty for x offence? Time to wipe out complications like partners, wives, mothers and children, any potential witnesses, if that police officer stops me, I'm dead, so better kill them, too, and then there's a useful hostage because I'm fighting for my life here.

Hardly any countries in the western world have the death penalty.

I can see that point of view. It just seems especially cruel to me. Average time on death row in Japan is 6 years. In my state, it's 21 years.

You will never convince me that there are any circumstances under which killing another human being as punishment is ever justified. No matter what they have done.

I suppose, though none of us know our ‘death date’ - I don’t think i’d want to know tbh.

Unfortunately, though, it's hard to set the "no doubt" threshold. Its hard to see scope for doubt here, outside of the extremely remote possibility of falsified evidence, but people have been executed when no doubt was though to have existed (only for better evidence, or proof of falsified evidence, to subsequently come to light).

And in order to reinstate the death penalty, we would need to leave the ECHR, which provides an important backstop against potential human rights abuses that could be inflicted upon us by our own government.

I'm not prepared to throw my human rights protections out the window for the sake of executing some dangerous extremists, who could be controlled by more restrictive conditions of incarceration.

How was he able to access an implement that he could use to stab the staff and access to hot oil?

Did you actually think that's what was being asked?

I fear the death penalty, in case of a miscarriage of justice.

Where there's no doubt - as in this case - however, then I'll set aside my scruples.

On the one hand, imprisoning this person under harsh conditions might be more of a punishment; on the other hand, he's continuing to be a danger.

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Prison isn’t a nice place and we have enough prisoner abuse cases showing it is systemic in US prisons in that prison guards often beat, torture and sexually abuse prisoners.

I think a full inquiry should be made and cctv of every moment of the prisoners life screened before assuming he is just attacking for no reason.

It deters the person being put to death. They can't do it again.

Does the death penalty work as a deterrent?

Well, that and the UK is a party to international treaties that prohibit the death penalty so, if we were to reinstate the death penalty, we would be waiving goodbye to safeguards of various other human rights and it'd likely significantly hurt the country's reputation and standing.

It’s a difficult subject, but on balance I think that people who have been proven to be guilty of premeditated murder should be given the death penalty. And I mean the murders in which there can be no other potential suspect ie. It is a watertight case and not a crime of passion. I can’t see how humane injection can cost more than imprisoning multiple criminals for the rest of their lives. Keeping people imprisoned for life is horrendously expensive and dangerous to the staff doing those jobs.
At present there is little deterrent and prisons are overstuffed.