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Most shops are just landfill waiting to happen.

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SummerDaytoNight · 13/04/2025 10:47

I mean, all are to a point, but I’m talking about the non essential ones.

Our society is engineering its own collapse. We only need food, health, house basics and clothing. And I suppose, technology.

Fast fashion could go. Housing should just be the essentials.

My friend took me into a shop called sostrene grene. It was lovely, but nothing was essential. Most shops are like that.

The horse has bolted, but I wish we could limit the unnecessarily stuff and just have the basics. Im not talking Amish level, but there’s no need for all this waste. It would be so much better if only the essentials were produced.

At the point of production, it’s already basically landfill.

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TwentyKittens · 13/04/2025 12:07

SummerDaytoNight · 13/04/2025 11:02

I was shopping yesterday and was just getting depressed. We're planning an event (hence my friend taking me to that shop), but I just don't want any of our anymore. Why do I need to buy tat? We just need food. Decorations can be natural (flowers) or not at all. I'm over paying today for tomorrow's landfill.

Hear hear.

I've just had enough with crap, and feel a combination of bewilderment and disgust at the extent of it.

I also feel the same way about UPFs (ultra processed foods). Supermarkets are heaving with them, and could easily be half the size by cutting half of them out.

Nevermindthebuzzard · 13/04/2025 12:05

minipie · 13/04/2025 10:57

Completely agree about the seasonal stuff and most decorative items. Plastic plants are especially sad.

I also get depressed by collectibles like jellycats or squishmallows … what are they FOR?? Future landfill for sure.

Then there’s all the stuff that is useful but has a really short shelf life. Built to a cheap price point and not intended to last. Electronic items like automatic pet feeder or headphones that last a year or two before breaking or mysteriously dying. I’d happily pay extra for a phone charging cable that lasts 5+ years but it doesn’t seem to exist.

Dunno my children have played with their squishmallows for years and when they're done, I'll stick them in the wash and donate them to a charity shop as they're pretty well made they will have plenty of life left in them.

Theunamedcat · 13/04/2025 12:04

Yes let's only have what we need no room for wants no Christmas cards gifts that are ethical only clothing that is reliably sourced and not dyed frivolous colours because that's bad for the environment too pare everything to the bone who cares if jobs go and people can't afford to live without them we need less people on the planet anyway plus isn't the government pulling in that assisted suicide law anyway so we will be fine will we still do cremation? Apparently in other countries they are composting people that might be more eco friendly and we could probably fit more people in

UncharteredWaters · 13/04/2025 12:03

I bought my baby an Easter themed babygrow for £1 in the charity shop.
That was last years £15 babygrow worn once and at least given to charity.

I had considered buying her one for Easter Sunday but really I didn’t want to spend money on something that is barely worn. I’m as guilty as the next person - so was delighted with this find!

Octavia64 · 13/04/2025 12:03

I bought a hand made wreath for Christmas this year.

it cost me three times the price of the plastic one I normally put up that I’ve had for twenty years.

it was lovely but because it was all real holly etc after Christmas I had to dis assemble it and the plants could be composted but the ribbons etc went in the bin.

it takes time and or money to decorate with plants.

plastic tat is a lot cheaper.

Tbrh · 13/04/2025 12:03

Agree, but its supply and demand so even though 70% agree with you, there are also creating a need for all this crap

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 13/04/2025 12:03

0ohLarLar · 13/04/2025 11:56

I am trying to buy less and less and only buy what we need. It is hard though when government etc are measured so much on consumption based growth measures. Policy and decision makers want us buying more and more and more.

Yes there is lobbying from the retail industry, but much of the stuff this thread is talking about us not only made in China but sold directly from Chinese retailers, so it doesn't even benefit the UK economy.

finallysomesunshine · 13/04/2025 12:02

@MrsWinslowsSoothingSyrup ’china seems to think we want’ could just as well read ‘China is just the latest in a line of countries feeding our inexorable appetite for…’

StumbleInTheDebris · 13/04/2025 12:01

It isn’t going anywhere anyway.

If there wasn't demand for it, the resources could be used for essential things. So that's what would happen in an ideal world.

Honestly if you genuinely need a piece of coloured plastic from China every three months to make your life worth living then you have problems than need sorting... and I am sympathetic but I realise this isn't going to fix it so why screw with the things we actually need for a temporary fix?

There's so much out there that could be reused yet we churn out more and more of it.

MrsWinslowsSoothingSyrup · 13/04/2025 12:01

0ohLarLar · 13/04/2025 11:56

I am trying to buy less and less and only buy what we need. It is hard though when government etc are measured so much on consumption based growth measures. Policy and decision makers want us buying more and more and more.

We can buy services and experiences rather than items.

We can eat at local organic food, use local cabs (not giant chains), eat locally made ice cream, cheese, beers, wines. Hire a local venue and a band/dj for your birthday instead of getting an expensive item as a present, buy locally grown plants, local art or craft or food for people as presents instead of items made a thousand miles away.

We can still spend money and fuel the economy without buying shit.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 12:00

0ohLarLar · 13/04/2025 11:56

I am trying to buy less and less and only buy what we need. It is hard though when government etc are measured so much on consumption based growth measures. Policy and decision makers want us buying more and more and more.

it's not hard to make a personal decision not to consume as much.
I'm struggling to think of a single gov. policy which would make me buy stuff I don't need

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 13/04/2025 12:00

QueefQueen80s · 13/04/2025 11:54

Life is hard, monotonous, sometimes boring so people want these things as a distraction. Decorating their home, buying clothes, celebrating events.. let people have their bit of fun and happiness. It isn’t going anywhere anyway.

There are plenty of ways to find joy in life that don't involve buying excessive amounts of cheap plastic shite from Temu/Shein/B&M.

Mightymoog · 13/04/2025 11:59

Never heard of sostrene green but it seems to be usual tat but in posher looking shops?

The name is far too close to soylent green for comfort!

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/04/2025 11:58

MrsWinslowsSoothingSyrup · 13/04/2025 11:53

There is just so much shit produced. China seems to thinks we want all this crap in the world and keeps churning it out for 10p on Temu.

It's actually grotesque and makes me feel sick with disappointment if I think about it for too long.

The biggest question is: why can't people stop buying all this absolute rubbish???

We're conditioned to measure ourselves and our value against others. Marketing is such a sophisticated thing, based in propaganda techniques. It exploits and encourages vulnerabilities and FOMO. Internet, social media and YouTube are full of "influencers" promising that your life will be magically improved by this or that "lifestyle" which requires a bunch of accessories to achieve.

The first episode of the new Black Mirror series is chilling and enlightening.

StumbleInTheDebris · 13/04/2025 11:57

I agree that home decoration aren't essential to life but there's nothing wrong with decorating one's home.

There is if it's going to landfill, which is what this thread is about.

Ridiculous amount of the Earth's resources needed to create it, ship it all over the world, store it, use for the selling facility, then destroy it a year or two later with the chemicals and microplastics leeching into the earth for centuries to come.

Then people will wonder why food isn't growing and there are wars over resources.

Obviously buying things that you keep isn't quite as big a problem. It's the disposable stuff that will suffocate us.

0ohLarLar · 13/04/2025 11:56

I am trying to buy less and less and only buy what we need. It is hard though when government etc are measured so much on consumption based growth measures. Policy and decision makers want us buying more and more and more.

MrsWinslowsSoothingSyrup · 13/04/2025 11:55

Robinredd · 13/04/2025 11:53

I agree but I have ADHD and have an issue with spending. At the detriment to myself AND the environment!

Well sort it out them please.

QueefQueen80s · 13/04/2025 11:54

Life is hard, monotonous, sometimes boring so people want these things as a distraction. Decorating their home, buying clothes, celebrating events.. let people have their bit of fun and happiness. It isn’t going anywhere anyway.

MrsWinslowsSoothingSyrup · 13/04/2025 11:53

There is just so much shit produced. China seems to thinks we want all this crap in the world and keeps churning it out for 10p on Temu.

It's actually grotesque and makes me feel sick with disappointment if I think about it for too long.

The biggest question is: why can't people stop buying all this absolute rubbish???

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 13/04/2025 11:53

Bjorkdidit · 13/04/2025 11:44

But these things get used over and over for years. We still have the same Christmas decorations I bought in the 1990s, likewise the vases I bought for the 'new home' flowers. Nothing expensive, ikea, BHS, Wilko or similar.

I agree that home decoration aren't essential to life but there's nothing wrong with decorating one's home. Do people really have none of these?

But these things get used over and over for years

The point is that they very often don't get reused for years. They get chucked out when they invariably break or when the person "declutters" and/or replaced with next year's shiny new piece of tat, new colour scheme etc. A PP mentioned living in a flat - seasonal decorations will often get binned because of lack of storage. Or, things get put in boxes and shoved in the garage to be binned in 20 years' time when they declutter/move house/die.

Robinredd · 13/04/2025 11:53

I agree but I have ADHD and have an issue with spending. At the detriment to myself AND the environment!

Rhaidimiddim · 13/04/2025 11:51

The Range - whom I've heard people rave about - opening a store in my town last week and I went along to see.

I actuallt mentioned then to my DH that we seem to be in a toxic relationship with China; we buy all that plastic tat and overwrought stationery from them, and then pay them to take it away again and landfill for us.

SummerDaytoNight · 13/04/2025 11:45

MistressoftheDarkSide · 13/04/2025 11:43

Until an alternative system to neoliberalism capitalism is available, we're stuck with this.

I don't disagree, despite having run a "non-essential" independent shop myself, which folded over a year ago due to the current economic climate.

How we got here psychologically is interesting to explore. Edward Bernays is a good place to start.

Capitalism thrives on selling solutions to "problems". Once all the "problems" are solved, to sustain the system, we have to be introduced to new, invented problems and convinced that buying their solutions is a good thing.

Case in point - how many varieties of Oreo do we need? Last time I was in a big supermarket there seemed to be about half an aisle devoted to that one thing.

Last time I bought shampoo and conditioner, the dazzling array of choice left me paralysed until I just went for the biggest volume of product for the most reasonable price.

Trouble is, our whole global economy relies on the trading of widgets and services, so unpicking it without the whole house of cards collapsing it is a tricky and dangerous exercise, especially when money is God.

Totally agree. Honestly, when my partner's hair is good and he only uses 5 in 1 shampoo/ shower gel, I wonder how many products really are necessary.

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Bjorkdidit · 13/04/2025 11:44

But these things get used over and over for years. We still have the same Christmas decorations I bought in the 1990s, likewise the vases I bought for the 'new home' flowers. Nothing expensive, ikea, BHS, Wilko or similar.

I agree that home decoration aren't essential to life but there's nothing wrong with decorating one's home. Do people really have none of these?

SummerDaytoNight · 13/04/2025 11:44

Octavia64 · 13/04/2025 11:39

I keep all the seasonal tat.

i have lots of it. Christmas tat, Halloween tat, Easter tat. It all goes in a cupboard and comes out at the appropriate time of year.

i don’t have summer tat because I’m too busy growing seedlings and tomatoes.

It's still tomorrow's landfill. Imagine not having any of it.

My (foreign - important because where she lives makes it possible) mil uses holly and fir tree branches to decorate for Christmas. She puts seasonal flowers/ cuttings in her house at other times of the year. I feel like trying to follow her example, but it's not so easy here.

The Easter plastic tat isn't just landfill, it takes energy to produce.

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