To think there is a poor understanding of a healthy diet?

Arnold Schwarzenegger is vegan, he’s v healthy

And yet that actually sounds delicious to me and is actually quite close to what i eat most days ( though I don't much like soup so I'd have a chickpea salad salad with maybe some salmon or chicken for lunch with baby spinach and peppers and a slice of sourdough bread instead )

I regularly eat plain nuts and or fruit as snacks. Or plain yoghurt mixed with some fruit and/or nuts as a snack

I generally follow the Mind diet because I like the food and because it lists mostly what to eat instead of what not to eat
Green leafy veg min 6 times a week
Other veg min 2 portions a day
Berries min 2 a week
Nuts and seeds min 2 a week
Wholegrains min 2 a day
(oily) fish min 1 a week
Poultry min 2 a week
Pulses and beans min 4 a week

wine max 1 glass a day
Butter/marg max 1 a day
Cheese max 1 a week
Red meat max 3 a week
Fried/ fast food max 1 a week
Pastries and sweets max 4 a week

Other fruit (ie not berries) is not listed but I have some.most days

I don't follow it religiously but i do eat green leafy veg moat days and at least one other sort of veg usually more than one . I eat oily fish at least 1-2 a week and some form of nuts most days

I am nonetheless morbidly obese so healthy content or not, portion control is important if not being fat is more important to you than obviously is to me

I didn’t say all…but most. Personally, from that list, I wouldn’t add palm oil, sugar, spirit vinegar or rapeseed oil to my bread or think them necessary so I prefer homemade and would rather buy the seeds to add.

Fair, and individually those dishes are delicious I’m sure, but there’s no way I’d be able to maintain that kind of diet without craving something slightly less wholesome after a couple of days

‘Sugar in fruit has little impact on our blood sugar levels’

Yep, you’re not as knowledgeable as you think, OP. Ask any diabetic or woman with gestational diabetes. I was both of those and had to monitor my blood closely. Thankfully due to keto and having had my baby some time ago, my diabetes was reversed.

Where’s your meat and oily fish?

Bread is not healthy. It’s a cheap filler with very little nutritional content.

Oats are okay in moderation but read up on glyphosate poisoning from the oats being sprayed. I eat oats occasionally because I enjoy them but I wouldn’t eat regularly.

Rice (which I’m assuming you ate with your curry) is also polluted with arsenic. Again, you assume it’s healthy but it’s not really.

And this is the issue that it isn’t clear and pesticides and growing methods can make healthy produce quite unhealthy.

Nah. I think most people know perfectly well what a healthy diet looks like. They choose against it for various reasons.

I think a bigger problem is people's idea of how many calories are in food vs how many calories they think they burn.

E.g. a fried of mine did a whole 60 minutes in the gym. Light jogging on treadmill and some light weights and some stretching. I did some cardiovascular intervals on treadmill, heavy weights and stretching. She then ate an entire tub of Ben and Jerry's icecream on the basis she burned this off at the gym. Ice cream = 1200 calories. Gym work out was about 300 calories at a push.

I think most have no idea the amount of exercise required to burn off excessive calories.

I'm not overweight, I know perfectly well what a healthy diet looks like, i just CHOOSE not to get my calories in the healthiest way sometimes. But I do eat the right amount of calories for my height and exercise level.

Sainsbury's Soft Multiseed Wholemeal, Taste the Difference

INGREDIENTS: Wholemeal Wheat Flour, Water, Mixed Seeds (14%) (Sunflower Seeds, Brown Linseed, Millet, Poppy Seeds), Wheat Gluten, Yeast, Sugar, Fermented Wheat Flour, Salt, Rapeseed Oil, Soya Flour, Spirit Vinegar, Malted Barley Flour, Malted Wheat Flour, Rye Flour, Palm Oil, Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid.

This is better than the bread I make at home. I don't use that many different seeds and grains, and I stopped adding soya flour to mine as it made the texture weird.

How are you defining ‘healthy’? And based on what?

We just try as a household to eat as close to source and organic where possible.

Breakfast is porridge, home made museli or weetabix or eggs as we avoid processed cereals. A selection of fruit and our own home made yoghurt.
We have a breadmaker and I buy organic flour in bulk delivered to my door.
I make our own jam and want to expand into bottling and preserving more.

We've a couple of acres and have planted some fruit trees and shrubs, and this year will plant some staple vegetables to get us started.

We are pretty blessed we have the space to do these things. But I'm also very blessed that we live so rural that a takeaway is a rare treat and much less a temptation.
My city based family find it really hard because they drive past dozens of takeaways after a ling shift and often end up caving for an easier option rather than face up to an hour cooking.

I think that all sounds perfectly delicious. With variety every day. we must all have different tastes I guess.

I suspect that on the less healthy days steak cut chips feature.

So you’re vegan.

A vegan diet is not the pinnacle of ideal health. It has some good elements, but is far too restrictive, limited and misses key nutrients like iron and B12 (and for me personally, is boring!)

For my dinner tonight I had a steak with potato wedges, asparagus, broccoli & pepper sauce. It was absolutely delicious and that kind of food makes me feel amazing.

OMG calm down Gillian McKeith

Is it a healthy diet or orthorexia?

Where are your three pulses?

Instant oats are not good, but rolled oats and oat bran are good. I eat mainly oat bran, takes about 3 mins cooked on the hob.

120g of protein is a heck of a lot of meat.

50-60g is fine unless you're seriously working out.

Real bread is made from simply flour, salt, water and yeast (not always added). Most supermarket bread is ultra processed and has emulsifiers added to make it more palatable, softer and to extend shelf life. Also things like palm oil and sugar.

Supermarket bread yes. I make soda bread at home, takes literally 35 minutes, 5 mins to mix ingredients (no proving and no kneading), 30 mins to cook.

Have you heard of orthorexia, OP? It's an eating disorder.

Wow interesting that oats were bad, were they whole oats?