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Poor Prison officers having to deal with this today.

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PassingStranger · 12/04/2025 19:53

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95kggw7nxo

Disgusting, poor prison officers.

What to do with scum like this?

As if it wasn't bad enough about the bombing he planned, he now wants to attack staff?
Do we need him?

A headshot of Hashem Abedi wearing glasses facing the camera against a yellow background.

Hashem Abedi, Manchester Arena bomber's brother, attacks prison officers

Three officers have been treated in hospital, the Prison Service said, adding police were investigating.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz95kggw7nxo

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Wishing14 · 13/04/2025 09:30

It’s not racist to state that we have a growing problem with Islamic terrorism/ gangs/ yobs and it is going to get worse.
As an aside, if a family or person flees a country claiming asylum based on persecution, but goes back and forth to said country, well clearly there is something wrong with that. So why is it allowed to happen?

Espresso25 · 13/04/2025 09:28

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 08:45

'Put him down I say. Death penalty should come back for people like him'

His brother was a suicide bomber, they want to die they don't care. Sticking him in a room on his own without access to privileges or other people is far better punishment.

Waste of public money though.

nachoaverageusername · 13/04/2025 09:21

CaptainFuture · 12/04/2025 20:44

What ? It's happening all the time so who cares??
'Dog whistle racist?! For what? Saying this happened??

I agree, the prison officers apparently have life changing injuries. That doesn’t happen all the time, and it’s not racist to say it happened! Absurd.

Veronay · 13/04/2025 09:21

EasternStandard · 13/04/2025 09:18

This is sad but also seems dangerous to us generally.

It's an extene example of the anti western sentiment bulding in the country tbh

EasternStandard · 13/04/2025 09:18

crankycurmudgeon · 13/04/2025 08:30

Their family were a direct part of the radicalisation of the brothers. Their father Ramadan was taking the boys out of school at a young age to go and fight with him in Libya's civil war... these boys didn't stand a chance. There are pictures of Hashem at what can't be more than 10, posing in Libya with a rocket propelled grenade over his shoulder. From the youngest age they were being deliberately indoctrinated by their own family into violent jihadist ideology and being trained in and desensitised to violence.

This is sad but also seems dangerous to us generally.

Imbusytodaysorry · 13/04/2025 09:11

user1471453601 · 12/04/2025 20:23

@PassingStranger What do you mean when you say "do we need him"?

are you saying he shouldn't be alive because he serves no useful function you can identify?

or are you saying he shouldn't be in this country?

it's a moot question, I guess, because I disagree with both those explanations.

but perhaps you have another interpretation that I've not thought of?

this is not to say that what he did wasn't wicked, it was. It's just questioning where you think he should be, if your mythical "we" don't need him.

He should be hung ! Yes dead . Killed!
Remove evil !

Zebedee999 · 13/04/2025 09:06

BirraMoretti · 13/04/2025 07:20

‘Dog-whistle racist’ is such an over-used term on here, usually by posters who think they’re clever and better than everyone else. People are allowed to express an opinion.

It’s to shut people up. Gordon brown started it in 2010 calling mrs Duffy “a bigoted woman” because she didn’t like the way her town was changing for the worse. Thorn berry had a go at white van man for hanging St George’s flags out their windows. Starmer has two tier justice against anyone that tweets out. Sentencing council going for whites.
basically labour and their supporters hate the white working class hence why they are flooding their areas with demographics known to do 20 times the rapes etc of the indigenous population.

CherryRipe1 · 13/04/2025 08:47

Nosleepforthismum · 13/04/2025 06:31

I’d happily pay for him to be sent to CECOT in El Salvador. Death is too light a sentence.

Or The Black Dolphin.

NotsosunnyShropshire · 13/04/2025 08:47

PassingStranger · 12/04/2025 21:26

Agree, he had 3 years added to his sentence for an attack in 2020.
He obvs does not care. What a nightmare for staff.

Of course he doesn’t care, he’s got nothing to lose.

Gloriia · 13/04/2025 08:45

'Put him down I say. Death penalty should come back for people like him'

His brother was a suicide bomber, they want to die they don't care. Sticking him in a room on his own without access to privileges or other people is far better punishment.

ScrewedByFunding · 13/04/2025 08:44

crankycurmudgeon · 13/04/2025 08:30

Their family were a direct part of the radicalisation of the brothers. Their father Ramadan was taking the boys out of school at a young age to go and fight with him in Libya's civil war... these boys didn't stand a chance. There are pictures of Hashem at what can't be more than 10, posing in Libya with a rocket propelled grenade over his shoulder. From the youngest age they were being deliberately indoctrinated by their own family into violent jihadist ideology and being trained in and desensitised to violence.

Really really awful.

JudgeMenthol · 13/04/2025 08:41

Having spent 30yrs as a female prison officer in male Prisons, it is likely sugar and boiling water was used.
Cutlery is plastic, but can be melted down by using a cigarette lighter, and melting the handle to a point.
Prisoners are allowed a razor blade, and the blade can also be melted into the handle of cutlery.
The kettle is an issue. In a similar setting tea in a big urn was accessible at certain times during the day, and prisoners would be allowed to get a cup of tea one at a time, supervised by 3 staff. That might sound old fashioned, but it saves staff being covered in boiling sugar and water.

Someone up thread mentioned that staff years ago were recruited from the military, who had life experience.. but now there is no common sense, no people skills, and an increasing number of female staff are becoming intimately involved with prisoners.
I enjoyed my job, and worked with some amazing staff, but I certainly wouldn't want to be doing that job today. Minimum staffing levels, a lack of common sense recruiting, and running a prison on a shoestring budget is just a recipe for disaster.

AroundTheMulberryBush · 13/04/2025 08:37

PassingStranger · 13/04/2025 00:19

Yes, enough is enough, you can't expect prison officers to put up with him, he's obvs not worried about killing people.

This behaviour will continue and continue until someone is killed. He'll cost the taxpayer millions throughout the course of his life. He's of no use to anyone. Just be done with him. Or if that's not allowed then a single cell that he's locked in 24/7, till his dying day,,with a hatch for food to be put through.

It's unbelievable that someone like him, with his form, was given access to boiling hot oil. Whoever allowed that needs sacked and never work in a job again that needs the ability to form any kind of risk assessment.

FeedTheRoses · 13/04/2025 08:33

Frankland is high security, there should be no access to any kitchens or weapons for inmates.

The prison service has been run down.

£26,000 to work at a nearby detention centre.

Young women embarking on affairs with inmates.

Staff complaints about safety and staffing levels.

Not enough money, not enough high quality staff.

Two of our former neighbours, both prison officers left, as the jobs were not secure enough, staffing levels too poor.

CaptainFuture · 13/04/2025 08:32

Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 08:20

@user1471453601

no, they’re saying it shouldn’t be alive ‘cos it hurts people. Hth.

Oh but but @Cherrytree86 we must #beekiind to him remember!!

Veronay · 13/04/2025 08:31

Prison officers aren't paid anywhere near enough just to put up with subhumans like this, nevermind the risk they pose. It's no wonder they're crying out for new staff.

crankycurmudgeon · 13/04/2025 08:30

ScrewedByFunding · 12/04/2025 20:08

Just to confirm, it's the bombers brother that did this. Evil the pair of them. What must their family think?

Their family were a direct part of the radicalisation of the brothers. Their father Ramadan was taking the boys out of school at a young age to go and fight with him in Libya's civil war... these boys didn't stand a chance. There are pictures of Hashem at what can't be more than 10, posing in Libya with a rocket propelled grenade over his shoulder. From the youngest age they were being deliberately indoctrinated by their own family into violent jihadist ideology and being trained in and desensitised to violence.

Poor Prison officers having to deal with this today.
Cherrytree86 · 13/04/2025 08:20

user1471453601 · 12/04/2025 20:23

@PassingStranger What do you mean when you say "do we need him"?

are you saying he shouldn't be alive because he serves no useful function you can identify?

or are you saying he shouldn't be in this country?

it's a moot question, I guess, because I disagree with both those explanations.

but perhaps you have another interpretation that I've not thought of?

this is not to say that what he did wasn't wicked, it was. It's just questioning where you think he should be, if your mythical "we" don't need him.

@user1471453601

no, they’re saying it shouldn’t be alive ‘cos it hurts people. Hth.

PandoraSox · 13/04/2025 08:18

How did he have access to hot oil and the makings of weapons? The system has failed those officers terribly.

Thank God he will never be out on our streets.

PatChaunceysFruitCake · 13/04/2025 08:09

MissAmbrosia · 12/04/2025 20:01

Do you think these things don't happen all the time? That prisoners attack dont staff and each other? This is just more fucking dog-whistle racist crap.

Normally I’d agree with you. There can be a bias in newspaper reporting. In this case two of the three prison officers have life threatening injuries. No, that doesn’t happen all the time.

BellissimoGecko · 13/04/2025 08:07

PonyPatter44 · 12/04/2025 20:11

Unfortunately, he isn't serving a whole life sentence, so we have to try and rehabilitate him. I think we'd have more success teaching my cat to recite rhyming couplets in Swahili, but its what we have to do, because one day the piece of shit will come out of prison and no doubt hurt someone else. I'd still chop his hands off. Those poor officers.

Edited

I don’t think he’ll come out. At least 55 years of a sentence, and this is his second attack on officers.

He’s beyond rehabilitation.

must be awful for the officers having to deal with someone so evil and soulless.

ThePoshUns · 13/04/2025 08:04

Hazey19 · 12/04/2025 20:10

Being a prison officer must be one of the hardest and least appreciated jobs ever. Such a difficult job.

Hats off to anyone who does that job. Imagine being locked in with the scum of the earth.

Motherknowsrest · 13/04/2025 08:02

My teen who struggles with their MH, and has had some horrific meltdowns, isn't allowed near boiling water or hot oil. So I don't think a psychopath like him should ever be in the kitchen.

Those poor prison officers. It's such a thankless, invisible role. Essentially another emergency service but it's hidden away from the public unlike the police, RNLI, fire etc.

EasternStandard · 13/04/2025 07:55

Rosecoffeecup · 13/04/2025 07:37

Give over, 3 staff hospitalised and at least one with life threatening injuries. Of course it's noteworthy.

There's nothing racist about this at all and it would be reported in exactly the same way if it was a notorious white prisoner

Edited

Yes a strange take from the pp. Poor people don’t deserve this to be hidden because of the perpetrator.

hotpotlover · 13/04/2025 07:51

So many questions.

Irregardless if it was cooking oil or boiling water with sugar, why do violent thugs like him have a kettle in their cell in the first place?

They should just have access to water.

Nobody should have a right to coffee/tea if they're likely to abuse the kettle as a weapon.

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