FIL showing himself up - saddened by DH’s reaction

I'm sure you'd run rings around the lionesses on the pitch. If only there was sufficient haulage equipment to prise ginormous you out from under that bridge....

Oh. Why?

Don’t need men to slag women when we’re happy to give them a kicking ourselves. I wonder how good the women would be if they were also being paid millions a year? Women’s football was more popular back in the day so the FA banned it. Fil sounds awful and ignorant dull people like this won’t be told.

Womens football is dire!
A lot of them are quite chunky, they aren't fit ( athletically ) as the man, they cannot kick and the game is just boring.
It never will be as mainstream as the mens.
No wonder your FIL doesn't want to watch it, I don't know any man who will watch it voluntarily

Wtf?! So just a few years older than my DH who’s spent years watching his own DD play football. He would never in a million years have had an attitude like that.

Your FIL is a misogynistic dinosaur. And your DH is a total drip. To say he’d got a point is pathetic and awful. He totally let your DD down. My vagina would’ve snapped shut and never reopened.

Yes, I agree. What can I say? I agree.

I shall try to improve in my own time and do my best to come back to the thread, if still available, and to conform to the uniform idiocy!

Any meaningless activity (sport, ballet) are mostly watched for the visual pleasure, not intellectual stimulation, so I only watch those sports which I find pleasing - i.e. I find the participants attractive. Not so with intellectual offerings - opera, plays, films - I am not for obvious reasons concerned with the appearance, only the substance.

I would personally do anything to dissuade my daughter, were she to express an interest in football. But this is just my opinion.

Horrified my posts do not conform to common idiocy and do not reflect the madness of the world. Not.

He wouldn’t watch female football bc he wouldn’t ‘touch them with a barge pole’ - but he WILL watch male only matches bc he would shag them touch them with a barge pole?

This is his argument - point it out next time, OP.

I appreciate that it’s difficult to challenge op but saying he needs to hear from another male is a cop out. This kind of behaviour needs challenging by all and if your daughter was present wouldn’t you want her to see you standing up for what’s right.

and if the FiL shares your opinion, why couldn't he say "Not for me thanks, I'm not interested" ?

But the women are playing the women.

So to say the women have won more because the women’s teams are “rubbish” compared to the men makes no sense. They are still playing among the elite in their category same as the men do.

The women are just immensely more successful. The men have been catching up though.

Surely your husband knew what his dad's views were on women's sports before mentioning it.

There's a time to have a feminist view and on holiday where the drinks are flowing is not the right time IMO. Will only lead to a difficult atmosphere. Neither of them were personally insulting to you or your footballing daughter.

The time to challenge misogynistic views and homophobia is whenever you hear it. If that happens to be on holiday, then that is the time.
What message does it send just sitting there and accepting it ?
Even worse, what message does it send that the OP's dh agreed with it ?

All the (hardly ancient) FiL had to say is "not for me, I'm not interested".

Not sure how your dh is excusing him because "he is from a different generation". I'm in my 60s and would challenge that all day long - as would my dh, and as would my parents have done (would be in their mid 90s if they were still alive). "Another generation" isn't the issue - him being a rude, ignorant homophobe and misogynist is the issue here.

If him being called out on that meant I ended up seeing him less, then that would not be a bad thing.
I would also hope to set an example to my dc that any discriminatory language should be challenged. Always. Anywhere.

He did challenge it by saying women's football had come on recently. Doesn't sound like his dad is going to listen to him on the subject though

Agreed. Depressing reading. Me and dh are 60 and if we spoke/thought like that we would be out of a job.
Disgusting misogyny. Your poor daughter.

But there’s a pretty big difference between the best mens teams and the best womens teams. As said, it’s just my opinion. I’ve tried watching womens matches, but it just seems so clumsy and boring. Obviously others might disagree and love it.

My dads 78 and will watch women’s football there’s no excuse for that type of misogyny and men who collude in it are no better

He didn't have to be quite so offensive with his 'opinion' though did he?

IF this actually happened (someone in his 60s grew up at a time when this was not acceptable behaviour) then your DH was a dick for agreeing with him.

So you can only watch womens football if they're not lesbians or fat and they must be sexy and slutty that he can touch with or without a barge pole. Yeah sounds awesome.

He didn't to say that his dad had a point

He could have just left it