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Husband canceling his game

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Springsunshine28 · 11/04/2025 23:38

My husband has a basketball game tomorrow, and since I’ll be working, he planned to take our 3-year-old daughter with him. He told me that two of the wives of his teammates—who I’ve met before and who know our daughter—would be there to keep an eye on her while he plays.
However, I messaged both of them and found out they won’t actually be there. I told my husband that I’m not comfortable with him taking her without someone I trust to watch her while he's on the court. He got a bit annoyed and said I clearly don’t trust him. He says she’ll just stay strapped in her pram and will be fine.
But I’m really not okay with that—she’s only 3, and I don’t think it’s safe or fair for her to be left like that with no one actively watching her. He’s now saying he’ll cancel, but I can tell he’s upset about it.
Just wondering—am I being unreasonable here?

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rainbowstardrops · 12/04/2025 08:51

I’m glad he’s seen sense and cancelled his game but jeez, he honestly thought it’s perfectly ok to dump a 3 year old at the side, in their pushchair and the good little women would pick up the slack for him? Awful.

Mnetcurious · 12/04/2025 08:41

modgepodge · 12/04/2025 08:26

If it helps, the same thing happens at hundreds of netball games up and down the country every Saturday - children (admittedly usually older than 3) sat on the side while their mum plays and other people watch them.

“children (admittedly usually older than 3) sat on the side while their mum plays”

older than 3 is the key point though. I’m sure if op’s child was 6 or 7 she wouldn’t have the same concerns.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/04/2025 08:32

PishPish · 12/04/2025 08:30

So, even when he was assuming that two teammates’ wives would do his childcare, which in itself is outrageous, he hadn’t actually messaged them to ask?

Yeah, this is quite wild.

The assumption that two women be barely knows have nothing better to do with their Saturday morning than sit on the sidelines watching their hubbies throw a ball around, and that they won't mind providing him with free childcare, even though he hasn't even contacted them to ask. The mind boggles.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/04/2025 08:31

modgepodge · 12/04/2025 08:26

If it helps, the same thing happens at hundreds of netball games up and down the country every Saturday - children (admittedly usually older than 3) sat on the side while their mum plays and other people watch them.

A three year old is right in that age bracket where they're too old to be strapped into a buggy and too young to be left unsupervised or even with people they don't know very well, even for a short time.

PishPish · 12/04/2025 08:30

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 00:10

I don't know how to confront him. I found out he is not outright lying and he really didn't know that they are not coming anymore but he is still saying that he knows ou daughter will be safe as he will be there constantly watching her even while he is playing. I am upset and wanting to talk but he is just not responding to anything I am saying now.

So, even when he was assuming that two teammates’ wives would do his childcare, which in itself is outrageous, he hadn’t actually messaged them to ask?

arethereanyleftatall · 12/04/2025 08:28

The whole point @modgepodgeis that she is, indeed, 3.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/04/2025 08:27

Pussygaloregalapagos · 12/04/2025 02:37

I disagree with most opinions on here. She can sit at edge of court in buggy or toddle about.

kids have always been toted about with parents doing stuff that doesn’t directly involve them. It is life.

it is great your husband has active life and willing to take the babe with him.

if you disagree could you get a friend to watch her?

Sit in the buggy or "toddle about"?

Have you met a three year old recently? They do not toddle, neither do they sit comfortably in a buggy for any length of time, because they will be quite squashed and their feet will be practically trailing on the ground.

A three year old is a child, not a baby or a toddler. My son started school when he was three. I don't think he has actually sat in a buggy since he turned two.

modgepodge · 12/04/2025 08:26

arethereanyleftatall · 12/04/2025 08:17

If you can’t see how bad it is that what you are modelling to your dd is that fathers do what they want and women, any women will do, will pick up the slack - then I hope she has some other role models in her life that will teach her about equality.

If it helps, the same thing happens at hundreds of netball games up and down the country every Saturday - children (admittedly usually older than 3) sat on the side while their mum plays and other people watch them.

Mnetcurious · 12/04/2025 08:23

MumbleBumbleAppleCrumble · 12/04/2025 01:43

‘because the other parent can’t be relied upon to ensure his child’s safety…’ In your opinion.

Gosh but there’s an awful lot of righteous certainty on here.

It’s not an opinion that a person (man or woman) can’t simultaneously play a game of basketball and supervise a toddler. It’s a fact.

Sulu17 · 12/04/2025 08:18

I am shocked at the people saying it is ok to have a broadly unsupervised 3 year old at the edge of a basketball game. And I am not keen on a man who turns all quiet and 'cold shouldering' when this is pointed out to him.

SaladSandwichesForTea · 12/04/2025 08:17

The biggest problem that I can see os that you come across like you think him being upset is a problem for you to solve.

It's not.

He made an error in judgement, agreed to take alternative and more appropriate action, and instead ofnaccetping that it's OK for him to feel a bit crap about not playing and let him have those feelings, you're now worried that you need to massage his ego and make everything OK. I'm not having a pop, I used to be the same. Thankfully he sounds like a nice enough bloke who got it a bit wrong, like anyone does sometimes. I'm not trying to kick you while you're down, I'm just making an observation that you might do well to take a breath and a moment to realise you aren't responsible for mamingsire everyone is happy all the time. It's a hard habit to break though! X

arethereanyleftatall · 12/04/2025 08:17

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 08:01

I usually let him take her to games if the wives of his teammates who I've met and get along with me or my little one is there but at this instance they are not available so basically there would be no one to supervised her while he is playing aside from his team mates that'll be on the bleachers and my little one doesn't know them and she will be anxious.

If you can’t see how bad it is that what you are modelling to your dd is that fathers do what they want and women, any women will do, will pick up the slack - then I hope she has some other role models in her life that will teach her about equality.

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 08:13

modgepodge · 12/04/2025 08:03

I actually think from a safety perspective it’s probably ok - I play netball which is probably a similar set up and there are breaks in the game every few seconds when the ball goes out or to set penalties or when a goal is scored, so he could look at her then. There will probably be coaches/subs who would be sat with the pram meaning a random person coming to wheel her away is highly unlikely.

that said, I wouldn’t do it. When this situation has arisen for me, I’ve skipped the game, or once got a friend to come and watch my child and play on the grass outside the court. When I had a tiny baby, I took him in the pram and went in kit but said I may not play - in the end one of my team mates was desperate for a baby cuddle so I did got on for half the game and she held the baby.

Most 3 year olds won’t sit quietly in a pram for over an hour, they’ll start crying/shouting which for me would be a distraction anyway and I wouldn’t be able to enjoy the game. At that age toilet trips are unpredictable and urgent and I wouldn’t let just anyone take her to the loo.

once they’re a little bit older, it’s ok and quite normal in my opinion. Regularly there are kids aged 7/8+ on the side at games. My daughter is now 6 and I think I’m now at the point where I’d take her with an iPad and she’d be ok (but due to the existence of her younger brother this situation won’t arise for a while as he’d need childcare anyway!). But I wouldn’t have at 3.

Thank you. As I mentioned on my post earlier I am usually OK if I the people I personally know are there to keep an eye on her or play with her which they don't mind doing but not today. The toilet trips are the one I am worried about as I don't want random people to take her. Just feels so wrong.

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arethereanyleftatall · 12/04/2025 08:12

Comewhatmay25 · 12/04/2025 05:48

My DH plays in a local league and some times the players bring their kids and they sit on the team bench on an iPad during the match and others the kids all get together and play together. It's lovely seeing them grow up around sport, hearing my DS tell other kids number 86 is my dad. Learning that life doesn't revolve around them. A blanket no is wrong let him judge it. And we have had many things happen during games with kids, their ball has rolled into the playing court, the game has been stopped to allow them to pass safely, players subbed to take kids to the toilet. Everyone is really understanding.

At 7,8, 9 - sure.
At 3 - no.

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 08:06

Ellie1015 · 12/04/2025 07:55

It is not practical, apart from safety the child won't be happy strapped into a buggy watching dad for more than 10 mins. It is not fair to assume other spectators will want to entertain toddler, if i am there to watch it is because I enjoy watching. Would helpful for a few mins if parent needed to go to bathroom but not full game.

Your dh may be upset/disappointed at missing out, that is normal too. As long as not directed at you or dd.

He is upset yes but he is still calm and collected.

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modgepodge · 12/04/2025 08:03

I actually think from a safety perspective it’s probably ok - I play netball which is probably a similar set up and there are breaks in the game every few seconds when the ball goes out or to set penalties or when a goal is scored, so he could look at her then. There will probably be coaches/subs who would be sat with the pram meaning a random person coming to wheel her away is highly unlikely.

that said, I wouldn’t do it. When this situation has arisen for me, I’ve skipped the game, or once got a friend to come and watch my child and play on the grass outside the court. When I had a tiny baby, I took him in the pram and went in kit but said I may not play - in the end one of my team mates was desperate for a baby cuddle so I did got on for half the game and she held the baby.

Most 3 year olds won’t sit quietly in a pram for over an hour, they’ll start crying/shouting which for me would be a distraction anyway and I wouldn’t be able to enjoy the game. At that age toilet trips are unpredictable and urgent and I wouldn’t let just anyone take her to the loo.

once they’re a little bit older, it’s ok and quite normal in my opinion. Regularly there are kids aged 7/8+ on the side at games. My daughter is now 6 and I think I’m now at the point where I’d take her with an iPad and she’d be ok (but due to the existence of her younger brother this situation won’t arise for a while as he’d need childcare anyway!). But I wouldn’t have at 3.

arethereanyleftatall · 12/04/2025 08:02

This thread is AWFUL. We have huge problems in society at the moment with some awful men about, and it’s getting worse.

the husband is absurdly selfish, uncaring, sexist, misogynistic, moody. The fact he is now giving you the cold shoulder shows a complete lack of emotional maturity. The fact that he would strap his 3 yr old in to a buggy so that he could play a game is beyond selfish. The fact that ‘oh some other women will look after her’ is fucking awful.

but that said. Now you have the op ‘worried he’s upset’ and some other handmaiden offering up peaceful suggestions how to massage his ego.

I was too cross to read every post.

FUCKING NO. NO.NO.NO.

‘don’t be such a selfish sexist twat, look after your 3 year old with a smile on your face, and stop sulking’

the reason I get so cross is for my daughters. I’m happily well out of this shit. Accepting this shitty behaviour means it gets shown to a new generation and so the cycle continues

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 08:01

Pussygaloregalapagos · 12/04/2025 02:37

I disagree with most opinions on here. She can sit at edge of court in buggy or toddle about.

kids have always been toted about with parents doing stuff that doesn’t directly involve them. It is life.

it is great your husband has active life and willing to take the babe with him.

if you disagree could you get a friend to watch her?

I usually let him take her to games if the wives of his teammates who I've met and get along with me or my little one is there but at this instance they are not available so basically there would be no one to supervised her while he is playing aside from his team mates that'll be on the bleachers and my little one doesn't know them and she will be anxious.

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Ellie1015 · 12/04/2025 07:55

It is not practical, apart from safety the child won't be happy strapped into a buggy watching dad for more than 10 mins. It is not fair to assume other spectators will want to entertain toddler, if i am there to watch it is because I enjoy watching. Would helpful for a few mins if parent needed to go to bathroom but not full game.

Your dh may be upset/disappointed at missing out, that is normal too. As long as not directed at you or dd.

Springsunshine28 · 12/04/2025 07:52

RunningJo · 12/04/2025 07:16

How can he be constantly watching her whilst he’s playing basketball? That’s not physically possible
He can occasionally glance her way, but if he’s watching the ball, his team mates and actively playing there isn’t a chance he can safely watch your child.

No way I’d let him do this.

He needs to grow up and realise being a Dad you have to re jig your responsibilities and your child comes first, always. There will be plenty more basketball games he can play.

That's totally my point and that's what I was trying to make him understand that I know that will happen. In the end he didn't say much more and cancelled his game. I know he will get over it.

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MumbleBumbleAppleCrumble · 12/04/2025 07:49

DoddlesMcDoddle · 12/04/2025 07:00

it’s probably me, but…

No, please do not do this! Women shouldn't have to debase or reduce ourselves or make ourselves out to be neurotic in order to massage a man's ego.

I’ve already responded to a similar criticism of my post (on page 3) so suggest you look at that. But in essence, you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying, which is actually about trying to understand why people behave and react in certain ways and then using that as a means to continue communications. It’s about coming at a disagreement from the point of view that these things should be dealt with as two people with feelings and emotions and, even (shock horror on this thread, I know, possibly valid albeit different opinions).

My point is, as my post said, that it’s unlikely that the OPs husband is really reacting badly to the possibility of having to miss his game, I rather suspect that it is actually to the (overt or subtle) insinuation that he is not capable of making a valid decision about how to provide good and safe parenting to his child. So when I say ‘ego massaging’ is was (possibly poor) shorthand for saying that in order to take the conversation forwards to a productive outcome and to have a proper adult conversation, the OP should probably recognise how her comments and way of dealing with the situation up until this point may have inadvertently hurt her husband.

It’s got nothing to do with treating men in a particular way, it has everything do do with how we interact with others - it works for friends, colleagues, strangers and our own children - and that when someone responds in a certain way, angry or hurt or whatever, it’s often helpful to step back for a moment, wonder why that might be, apologise if what you’ve said previously has caused upset and it wasn’t your intention (ego massaging) and then continue the conversation from there.

It amazes me on Mums Net how many people seem to run their relationships like constant small wars of attrition. No trust, no space for - or value of - other points of view, no actual real communication, and I’m really not sure where the space for love and friendship fits. It seems like some people live their lives in a relationship constantly in a state of angry defence, believing that their partner is clearly out to do them and their children harm, to be sly and cheat and try to get away with doing absolutely nothing in the way of decent grown up family responsibility. And the only way to deal with that is to be constantly suspicious and always ready for battle and to catch them out. It must be like walking through a tiger cage. It must be completely exhausting!!

My partner and I come at things first and foremost from a point of respect and trust. We have conversations, we don’t always agree and sometimes we argue. But we don’t play the blame game. We understand that difference is a good thing that can lead to even better things. And fundamentally that a relationship is about creating the most wonderful sort of team: a family. And teams require work, respect and conversation.

On this particular issue, would I think it a good idea to take my three year old to a basketball game that I was playing in? Probably not, no. Would I forbid my partner from doing it? No. No I wouldn’t, because I trust my partner and know that they are a wonderful parent for all that we might sometimes disagree about certain ways of doing it. It’s called respect and it’s a wonderful place to start a basis for your relationship.

Penguinmouse · 12/04/2025 07:47

He might not have been lying but he’s a bit of a dimwit - you can’t just leave a child strapped in a pushchair nearby whilst you do an activity that you’re focused on. Where’s it taking place? Is it a private court or in a leisure centre? Sounds like people will be watching the game and any one of them could take the child. Yes it’s unfortunate but them’s the breaks when you have a child!

Whoisthatgirl89 · 12/04/2025 07:45

I don’t think it’s crazy in itself but:

a) keeping a 3yo in a buggy for the length of a match without them getting bored/having a meltdown seems optimistic. What will DP do if it becomes distracting to him/other players?

b) there will likely be other spectators or reserve players who will be more than happy to have your DC nearby and keep an eye on them. I would be happy with someone ‘friendly’ keeping an eye on my child. However it’s unfair that it may impact their ability to be engaged in the game

c) I think some men are optimistic about how much they can do with a LO and things like this are a good reality check that you can do a lot but it’s hard to do it all and something usually ends up getting compromised and it shouldn’t be the child

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 12/04/2025 07:39

He's rather selfish and unreconstructed for assumimg 'the wives' will keep an eye on the child/dog/t-rex, that he is supposed to be responsible for.
More to the point, why isn't he automatically doing stuff with her - taking to park/for a walk/etc - even doing house-type chores? Or was this a last-mintue change of work shift, so he hasn't had time to be creative while responsible for his child?

BlondiePortz · 12/04/2025 07:36

I would have no issue with this and by husband is equally responsible as me or I wouldn't have had a child with him, we trust each others judgement because we are both fully functional adults

We don't play sport but both of us have taken our child to things alone I wouldn't have thought it was such an issue