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To say stop moaning about A&E

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Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 22:36

My son (21) dislocated his shoulder and I took him to A&E. They were absolutely fabulous with him, because it was an emergency! He had bloods taken, X-rays, two doctors and a nurse manipulate his shoulder back into place with morphine and a further X-ray, all in under 3 hours. So I just want to say to all the people moaning about A&E waiting times to think about whether you were a genuine accident or emergency and for anyone what has had good experiences of A&E to put a shout to the staff that are there for us in our time of need.

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ginoa · 12/04/2025 00:05

I'm genuinely glad for you and your son, OP, but I'm struggling a bit to bite my tongue here. I spent Christmas haemorrhaging in A&E with a late miscarriage of twins and wasn't seen for 6 hours. All they could do was offer me adult nappies and apologies as I was bleeding through my clothes onto the floor and they couldn't get hold of anyone who could see me. When I was finally seen I was operated on with no anaesthetic due to the urgency. Was that the system working as it should, or where did I go wrong under your logic?

GabbySolisX · 12/04/2025 00:05

Lucky you. Your experience doesn’t undermine everyone else’s.

Darkcarpark · 12/04/2025 00:00

Marble10 · 11/04/2025 23:57

I’ve only ever had good experiences with A&E too. Everytime I’ve been seen very quickly, like you they have been in real genuine emergencies/accidents.

On my last visit, I was seen promptly in the AM but then I was hanging around until the evening time when they finally found a ward space for me. Which from reading some of the comments is still good time.

Thank you. I totally agree x

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Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:59

CaramelGhost · 11/04/2025 23:32

Isn't everything "suspected" when you enter a+e? They don't know until you've been tested, x-rayed etc.

Just because you've had one good experience, it doesn't invalidate everyone else's experiences. Lovely for your son, that he was seen so quickly despite no threat to life. That isn't the reality for many

If you saw a dislocated shoulder, you would now it! It would not be suspected.

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Marble10 · 11/04/2025 23:57

I’ve only ever had good experiences with A&E too. Everytime I’ve been seen very quickly, like you they have been in real genuine emergencies/accidents.

On my last visit, I was seen promptly in the AM but then I was hanging around until the evening time when they finally found a ward space for me. Which from reading some of the comments is still good time.

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:54

PleaseDontFingerMyPouffe · 11/04/2025 23:26

Op, it might not have been your intention (I think you're expressing happiness & gratitude for your experience) but your post did come over somewhat preachy

I am expressing gratitude. Sorry if it came across as preachy. I’ve just seen my son have his shoulder put back in place by an awesome team, it makes you feel grateful.

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GettingMySpringOn · 11/04/2025 23:53

We've always generally had good experiences. We have a dc who is very accident prone. Broken limbs and various injuries. Always seen fairly quickly.
I was taken for a suspected blood clot on lung during pregnancy. I was on a trolley on a corridor for 7 hours. There were beds being taken by drunks who had been in a fight with security between 3 of them. Using resources.
Plus one lady who was having a mh crisis. I really felt for her. They were ringing to get her taken to a secure unit with no luck so she was stuck there.
But overall we've been fairly lucky .

spicemaiden · 11/04/2025 23:52

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:19

I am not lecturing, I am just saying let’s have some respect for the staff that are doing an awesome job.

Sadly you sound sanctimonious.

JeannieJo · 11/04/2025 23:51

AnneLovesGilbert · 11/04/2025 22:47

Lucky you.

And lucky me as we’ve had two positive experiences with DD in a&e recently.

But this is a really crap post as people dying in corridors were real emergencies and they were let down, badly.

People have every right to complain about the shocking failures of the NHS, especially at a worrying stressful time for them or their loved one.

You can thank the staff who helped you without lecturing people who haven’t been as fortunate as your son or my daughter. And we shouldn’t need to be grateful for an essential service we all pay for doing its job.

And people should remember to complain to the government instead of the NHS, as it’s the chronic underfunding of the NHS by the government that have left it in this state

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:51

Cbd333 · 11/04/2025 23:42

I think with issues like dislocations, broken bones, clean cuts etc treatment can be fast. The issue with long waits is where an inpatient bed is required, or further tests, or if the reason for the symptoms is unknown.

No clinician wants long waits to occur. Some emergencies are more simple than others to treat, but that doesn’t mean the emergencies that require a long wait are less urgent or less of an emergency, if that makes sense!

Edited

This makes perfect sense. They want us out asap and they know how to make that happen quickly. I am just saying that I am grateful for this and feel sad when my son has had a positive experience, but even he has been fed that the NHS are rubbish vis SM.

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MaMaMaMaBaker · 11/04/2025 23:49

I had a reasonably short wait in A&E once.

All the other times, they kept me waiting for endless hours in uncomfortable conditions, messed about my medication, they've been rude, been snappy, outright lied about test results, physically injured me... I can go on.

LittleLabrador · 11/04/2025 23:48

Ah I will pass your instruction onto my grandmother. She was in A and E on a trolley for 3 days with sepsis before she was finally admitted. I will tell her she should not have moaned about it, even though the trolley was incredibly uncomfortable and she almost died in a corridor.

WilsonRemain · 11/04/2025 23:46

DH had a fractured and dislocated shoulder last year. Took 2 hours to get an xray and another 1.5 after thay to get any pain relief. One nurse told him to stop making a fuss when they trying to reset it as he passed out with the pain.

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:44

EmeraldRoulette · 11/04/2025 23:39

@Darkcarpark Why would we stop moaning? You have been saying that you had a genuine accident/emergency.

My mum was in a corridor in A&E after a stroke for 22 hours. Previous incident, also a suspected stroke, was 18 hours.

Does that not count as an emergency for you?

I have seen amazing staff do amazing work but they haven't got enough support.

And I think it's perfectly reasonable to complain about some of the experiences people are having in A&E.

Edited

This does count as an emergency, most definitely! And you had a long wait, which is awful and I hope you complained to pals.

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Cbd333 · 11/04/2025 23:42

I think with issues like dislocations, broken bones, clean cuts etc treatment can be fast. The issue with long waits is where an inpatient bed is required, or further tests, or if the reason for the symptoms is unknown.

No clinician wants long waits to occur. Some emergencies are more simple than others to treat, but that doesn’t mean the emergencies that require a long wait are less urgent or less of an emergency, if that makes sense!

Drearycommuter · 11/04/2025 23:39

Your headline says stop moaning about it. Once a fortnight I had literally no sleep for a year because of a&e systems. I work! It was an impossible way of living. The people were great yes. But the a&e system was terrible for me.

EmeraldRoulette · 11/04/2025 23:39

@Darkcarpark Why would we stop moaning? You have been saying that you had a genuine accident/emergency.

My mum was in a corridor in A&E after a stroke for 22 hours. Previous incident, also a suspected stroke, was 18 hours.

Does that not count as an emergency for you?

I have seen amazing staff do amazing work but they haven't got enough support.

And I think it's perfectly reasonable to complain about some of the experiences people are having in A&E.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 11/04/2025 23:38

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:34

I’m implying some aren’t. But most are. No one want to rock up at A&E for no reason do they. Do you disagree with that? I want to express with all the negativity about the NHS , that sometimes, in an emergency it does a brilliant job. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not mentioning any negative experiences I have had. I just want to praise the good.

If that was really true you could contact the hospital you went to and send them a compliment via PALS.

Cantdoitalll · 11/04/2025 23:37

Sevenandahalf · 11/04/2025 22:53

My mum died on a trolley in a corridor.

I’m so sorry about your mum. No one should be dying on a trolley in a corridor.

AnneLovesGilbert · 11/04/2025 23:37

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:19

I am not lecturing, I am just saying let’s have some respect for the staff that are doing an awesome job.

You absolutely are. You’re telling people to stop moaning with no thought as to why they might feel the need to moan or that they weren’t as lucky as you despite going to a&e for far more life threatening things than a dislocated shoulder.

You’ve been given numerous examples explaining why your thread is tone deaf and an opportunity to wind your neck in but you’re doubling down. Embarrassing for you.

Thegreyestate · 11/04/2025 23:36

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:24

I never mentioned my critical thinking skills. I just said let’s stop moaning.

Right, everyone in the UK who's had a bad experience at A&E or lost a loved one due to the shocking waiting times should stop moaning because @Darkcarpark had a good experience 😂😂

This whole thread is so weird OP, I'm calling troll

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:34

HollyBerryz · 11/04/2025 23:24

No, you're implying people who have long waits don't need to be there or aren't 'real' emergencies.

I’m implying some aren’t. But most are. No one want to rock up at A&E for no reason do they. Do you disagree with that? I want to express with all the negativity about the NHS , that sometimes, in an emergency it does a brilliant job. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not mentioning any negative experiences I have had. I just want to praise the good.

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CaramelGhost · 11/04/2025 23:32

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:15

But was it dislocated? Or was it suspected? There is a BIG difference!

Isn't everything "suspected" when you enter a+e? They don't know until you've been tested, x-rayed etc.

Just because you've had one good experience, it doesn't invalidate everyone else's experiences. Lovely for your son, that he was seen so quickly despite no threat to life. That isn't the reality for many

PhilomenaPunk · 11/04/2025 23:32

Darkcarpark · 11/04/2025 23:24

I never mentioned my critical thinking skills. I just said let’s stop moaning.

And it’s this apathy that keeps things shit. Why should we just put up and shut up?

vipersnest1 · 11/04/2025 23:31

My penultimate interaction with A&E was when they sent my adult DC2 away after diagnosing them with a UTI. They ended up having an urgent appendectomy just over 24 hours later, with their operation being delayed by two more urgent cases at 12.30am and 2.30am. I’m not grateful that the ‘doctor’ who saw them initially didn’t check their bloods and neither was that surgeon who admitted them for the surgery.