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For refusing to go to Church?

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TheGreyPony · 11/04/2025 20:14

Me and DP have been together for 4 years and are newly engaged.

My family is atheist and DPs family is catholic (DP is not practicing any religion)

DPs family go to church every Sunday and special occasions (Easter, Christmas…)

DP doesn’t go to church expect for on Christmas Eve, which is mother states is extremely important to her.

She has asked me every year if I will go to church at Christmas with them, and I explained me and my family have our own traditions and it’s not something I want to give up.

She keeps asking DP and I to go to church on a Sunday with her. She says how much it would mean to them, and how sad she is that DP doesn’t take his faith seriously.
DP genuinely just can’t be bothered to go, and i genuinely could not care less about Church or anything to do with religion.

I am not “anti-religion” I just don’t believe it in at all and do find the whole thing ridiculous (don’t worry, I’d never say that to his family) I worry she blames me for DPs lack of faith, but I also find myself biting my tongue whenever something good happens (like I get a promotion) and she tells me to thank god - because I think, I did that on own, not God.

AMBU for refusing to go? I know it’s important to her, but I just don’t like religion and I feel like it would be more disrespectful to lie.
Should I pretend, and go to church to keep the peace? Or be true to myself?

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WaterFeatures · 12/04/2025 11:06

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:45

What has Hollywood got to do with it?

It happens on Mumsnet !

It happens because of Hollywood horror films in which an actor in a cassock traditionally shows up to fight the demonically-possessed child with his trusty crucifix, holy water etc. This has passed into the mindset of people who wouldn’t know a Catholic priest from a ninja, who appear to genuinely believe that Catholic priests are waiting for their call to do battle with the Forces of Evil.

Despite the fact that the official Church position is that it’s virtually always a MH issue, and that if a priest does agree to visit your house, it will be for pastoral care of you, not to banish the spirit of Beelzebub from your downstairs loo. With declining numbers and an ageing population of priests, almost none will have done the requisite exorcism training even if they thought it was warranted.

legsekeven · 12/04/2025 11:04

People are derailing the thread. You can be respectful to her beliefs but be firm on your own. You will not be going to church, you will not be getting married in a church, you will not be christening your children. I had all this with my family, they found it hard at first but they got used to it in the end.

WaterFeatures · 12/04/2025 10:57

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:21

@WaterFeatures juvenile carrot and stick of the Eye in the Sky, heaven and hell etc

Oi !

You can express your opinion without being offensive and ridiculing people's belief systems.

Muslims believe that Mohommed owned a flying horse called Buraq that he used to travel around the area. Are you going to make jokes about that? If so, make a packed lunch, because you'll be in hiding for a long time 🙄

When people bash Christianity I wonder what religious/non-religious rights they think Christians are seeking to take away from them?

It's interesting that whenever there is "woo" thread and someone is pestered by something that goes "bump" in the night, posters are yelling for the home-owner to get a Priest. 😁

It cracks me up that your ‘logic’ (which comes up with wearisome regularity on here) seems to be ‘A certain subcategory of fundamentalist Muslim has a tradition of inciting religiously-mandated murder as a response to perceived insults against their beliefs, therefore’ — what, exactly?

— ‘I wish the Archbishop of Canterbury/the Pope would also issue fatwahs, so I could legitimately run out and attack people being flippant about Jesus’?

— ‘I wish Christianity generated as much fear as fundamentalist Islam’?

— ‘I’d love to see Richard Dawkins in hiding for a decade because the parish of St Jude’s is baying for his blood’?

— ‘It’s what Jesus would have wanted’?

Listen to yourself.

And while I am always amused by the fact that people on woo threads always recommend contacting Catholic priests for ‘exorcisms’, apparently labouring under the delusion that they are always available to all comers like some kind of free ghost busting service apparently from having watched The Exorcist, Thetes a certain rightness to it, I suppose. Certainly belief in a curiously incompetent but supposedly omnipotent and benevolent deity requires the same level of superstition, wishful thinking and illogicality as general ‘woo’.

LaLoba · 12/04/2025 10:57

thepariscrimefiles · 11/04/2025 20:50

She's being unreasonable. She knows that you are an atheist but is pushing you to attend church with her.

Is Catholicism a proselytising religion that wants to convert unbelievers to their faith or does she just want you and your fiance to attend for the sake of appearances?

Does she take offence when you say no?

It isn’t about converting OP. It’s about future weddings and grandchildren being Catholic.
There were no depths to which my Catholic parents wouldn’t stoop to manipulate or bully me into pretending not to be atheist for appearances sake. My father told me I wasn’t really married, therefore committing a grave sin in the eyes of god because I had a non religious wedding.

OP, if your partner looks like he won’t stand up to his parent, run like hell!

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:54

SnowFrogJelly · 12/04/2025 10:52

Now it’s another Labour bashing thread
wind your necks in

Hey ! Stop throwing stones !

I didn't start it !

🤐

SnowFrogJelly · 12/04/2025 10:52

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:50

@FrodisCapering Because this Labour government is fucking nuts.

I would agree with that x 100.

It's the only part of your post I do agree with, but hey-ho you can't win 'em all. 😁

Now it’s another Labour bashing thread
wind your necks in

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:50

@FrodisCapering Because this Labour government is fucking nuts.

I would agree with that x 100.

It's the only part of your post I do agree with, but hey-ho you can't win 'em all. 😁

FrodisCapering · 12/04/2025 10:49

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SnowFrogJelly · 12/04/2025 10:49

Why had OP’s thread been hijacked by posters discussing Islamophobia
leave it out!

thepariscrimefiles · 12/04/2025 10:48

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:42

So why is this government trying to make Islamophobia a criminal offence?

And why are people in prison for posting "hurty words" on Twitter etc?

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Because Islamaphobia is pretty much always racist.

And the 'hurty words' on Twitter were also racist with incitement to violence, telling the rioters to burn down hotels full of asylum seekers.

SnowFrogJelly · 12/04/2025 10:48

YANBU but your DP’s mum is for repeatedly asking you. I would think twice about joining any family who are Catholic…

FrodisCapering · 12/04/2025 10:47

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PatriciaHolm · 12/04/2025 10:47

HolyMacaroniBatman · 11/04/2025 21:02

“No thanks Doreen, I’ll catch fire”

:-) my standard response to any suggestion I attend church is no thanks, it's too hard to stop bursting into flames ;-)

PermanentTemporary · 12/04/2025 10:45

I've been religious for patches of my life, a lapsed Protestant for a lot of it with a string intersst in Judaism, and am now a really stony hearted atheist. I just don't do any of it any more (ok thats not absolutely true, i still occasionally kindle the Shabbas lights and i celebrate my own cultural festivals like Christmas in my own way). I will happily visit churches as monuments and i will go to weddings and funerals if i have to but i won't set foot in a service otherwise. At your stage of life I would probably have gone along with it but that would have been the wrong choice. It's from two sexist beliefs: mainly about the grandchildren I bet but also because pretty much all religions really believe that it's the woman who will make the religious home, and therefore controlling the public and private religious practice of women is crucial to saving the souls of men. Needless to say I think all these beliefs are bollocks.

Lighthearted but absolute pushback from you. 'You are certainly persistent MIL! Answer hasn't changed from last time'.

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:45

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What has Hollywood got to do with it?

It happens on Mumsnet !

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:43

godmum56 · 12/04/2025 10:42

I know many people treat it as such, but football is NOT the same as a religion

It is in Glasgow and used to be in Liverpool.....

godmum56 · 12/04/2025 10:42

BlondiePortz · 12/04/2025 10:30

I don't see this as any different to I am not a football but have been to a few matches as if football is important to my husband and his family, my husband has been to some of my events as same importance to me and my family

I know many people treat it as such, but football is NOT the same as a religion

Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:42

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So why is this government trying to make Islamophobia a criminal offence?

And why are people in prison for posting "hurty words" on Twitter etc?

FrodisCapering · 12/04/2025 10:40

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CornedBeef451 · 12/04/2025 10:39

I wouldn’t go. If you go once she’ll be nagging for you to go more often.

DH’s family is very Catholic. MIL used to call me “The Heathen” and would try and guilt DH into nagging me into going to church.

I have been to weddings and funerals but refused to go to normal services. I have no interest and, to be honest, the synchronised responses and the automatic standing, sitting and kneeling was pretty creepy. Also the sermons generally make me want to roll my eyes and I don’t know the tune to the songs.

I did attend a 3 hour long ordination ceremony for a new priest. It was fascinating from an anthropological point of view, very dull overall but sporadically hilarious.

If you’re not religious, and specifically not Catholic, then attending is pointless.

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Marsyoungersister · 12/04/2025 10:37

HellDorado · 12/04/2025 10:26

It's interesting that whenever there is "woo" thread and someone is pestered by something that goes "bump" in the night, posters are yelling for the home-owner to get a Priest. 😁

You mean almost as if different people with different views posted different things?

What I am saying is that some people are quick to "rubbish" Christianity but if some people have an "entity" that has moved in and keeps hiding their car keys, going "bump in the night" etc others are quick to recommend a Priest.

Not a Shaman, not Kali, not Briget, not Nezha, just a bog standard Christian Priest.
I wonder why there is such a dichotomy ? 😁

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BlondiePortz · 12/04/2025 10:30

Mightymoog · 12/04/2025 09:56

you think someone should take part in a religious ceremony that they don't believe in?
Why?
Would you expect eg. a practising muslim to attend a catholic mass just to be polite?

I don't see this as any different to I am not a football but have been to a few matches as if football is important to my husband and his family, my husband has been to some of my events as same importance to me and my family

HellDorado · 12/04/2025 10:26

It's interesting that whenever there is "woo" thread and someone is pestered by something that goes "bump" in the night, posters are yelling for the home-owner to get a Priest. 😁

You mean almost as if different people with different views posted different things?