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To be annoyed not to be informed about vacancies whilst on mat leave

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FTM1993 · 11/04/2025 19:41

I'm currently on mat leave, returning in October. I plan to return part-time but haven't placed a formal flexible working request just yet. Whilst I've been off there seems to have been a massive restructuring at work, several senior people have been made redundant and vacancies created. I wasn't told about any of this until afterwards. I think my manager has assumed I don't want to know about things like this as I have not asked for any KIT days and have taken the maximum time off. I do keep in touch with some of the girls from work but we tend to avoid the subject of work. One of the girls texted me today to say she's gone for a manger role today and got the job. Am I being unreasonable for feeling a bit miffed not to have even been told about any of this? I thought employers had to keep you informed about stuff like this? It's not that I would have necessarily gone for the job but not even to have been told about it makes me feel quite out of the loop :(

OP posts:
AllThePotatoesAreSinging · 12/04/2025 20:58

BrightLightTonight · 11/04/2025 19:54

If the vacancies are advertised on the company internal webpages, then it is down to you to keep yourself informed, not down to your manager to contact you.

Not correct. People on maternity leave are disadvantaged because they don’t get the ‘word of mouth’, kitchen talk, general gossip machine, that people not on leave get. She should have been informed. Not directly making her aware is discrimination. There are tribunal rulings on this. OP look up Visa International vs Paul. Same situation. Raise it with HR.

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 12/04/2025 20:51

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 20:20

I don't think that's what I said at all. However I do get that you are rather rude and argumentative.

That's pretty much what you said and that poster was not rude in the slightest in pointing out your thinly veiled threat to women to not stand up for themselves.

Gently, may I suggest you aren't very robust if you thought they were rude and argumentative.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 20:20

I don't think that's what I said at all. However I do get that you are rather rude and argumentative.

Everystripesays · 12/04/2025 20:18

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 20:03

@everystripesays you reckon. The OP would have prove losses, injury to feelings and lasting impact. May I gently ask how often you have been in an Employment Tribunal? How often you have drafted the response on behalf of the respondent?

If it goes to Tribunal and even if the judgement is in favour of the OP, do you realise that many employers are now googling prospective employees and their former employers prior to offer. It's all there.

We get it, you don't think women should take anything like this further and should just assume their employers forgot and let it go. I had similar when I was on maternity leave and quite painlessly settled, also found a new job no problem.

LeedsZebra90 · 12/04/2025 20:15

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 11/04/2025 22:49

If you don't have access to the intranet where the posts were advertised, then yes, I think they absolutely should have informed you about the changes. It's unusual for women on mat leave to lose access to company email/intranet though.

Ive worked in two huge civil service departments where this is the case - your account is frozen whilst you're on leave so line managers are responsible for keeping anyone on mat leave up to date with things like this.

ZippyDoodle · 12/04/2025 20:04

dementedpixie · 11/04/2025 20:13

From ACAS:
Keeping in touch with work

Before you go on maternity leave, your employer or manager should have a meeting with you to talk about how you'd like to stay in touch.

While you're on maternity leave, your employer must tell you about important changes that might affect you. For example:

  • promotion or other job opportunities
  • training
  • redundancies
  • any reorganisation

If your employer does not, this could be pregnancy and maternity discrimination.
You can also agree with them:

  • what else you'd like to hear about, for example staff bulletins or social events
  • how you'd like to communicate, for example by email, phone or keeping in touch (KIT) days
  • how often you'd like to be in touch

This is exactly what I thought.

i would contact your boss and say that you have heard there is a restructure and jobs have been advertised which you weren’t aware of. See what they say but I would be expecting an apology for not keeping you in the loop. You could take it further depending on how you feel.

Going back part time after maternity leave I suspect they are assuming you are going to be baby brained and not really interested.

Are they generally decent to work or is this par for the course?

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 20:03

@everystripesays you reckon. The OP would have prove losses, injury to feelings and lasting impact. May I gently ask how often you have been in an Employment Tribunal? How often you have drafted the response on behalf of the respondent?

If it goes to Tribunal and even if the judgement is in favour of the OP, do you realise that many employers are now googling prospective employees and their former employers prior to offer. It's all there.

BlueMum16 · 12/04/2025 19:58

When I was on mat leave I received a paper copy weekly of all internal vacancies from HR. It was a process the followed for everyone so not to discriminate.

Everystripesays · 12/04/2025 19:55

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 19:53

And may have been a an oversight rather than a purposeful omission.

So? It makes no odds to OP as the result is the same, and the employers legal responsibilities are the same. I agree not to go in 'all guns blazing' but OP would be well within her rights to take it further, and would be successful in winning a case.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 19:53

Everystripesays · 12/04/2025 19:49

Even if it is an oversight it's not acceptable, employers are legally bound to do this:

Employers must ensure that women who are pregnant or on maternity leave are not discriminated against regarding promotional opportunities. For example, it would be unlawful discrimination for an employer to:

not inform a woman about any suitable vacancies;
discourage an employee from applying for a promotion; and/or
not promote someone who is the best person for the job, because they are pregnant or on maternity leave.

It's discrimination and sounds pretty clear cut from what OP has said.

And may have been a an oversight rather than a purposeful omission.

Whyx · 12/04/2025 19:52

Check out "pregnant then screwed" if you want information about taking this further.

Everystripesays · 12/04/2025 19:49

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 19:02

You should have been kept informed but would you have applied for a promotional role if you had been?

By your own admission you have met your colleagues but have purposefully not discussed work. You also refer to colleagues as "the girls" which indicates you aren't particularly career minded and have said you want to go part-time.

I'm not clear if you feel denied a career opportunity or if you wish to break professionally aggrieved. But yes, you shoukd have been informed of the restructure and u less vacancies relating to it weren't ringfenced you shoukd have been told about them, along with other vacancies.

Please don't go in all guns blazing vis a vis your rights. It's likely an oversight and a request for KIT day to discuss the changes, the future and that you would like to be considered for promotional opportunities in future, is likely to be far more constructive.

Even if it is an oversight it's not acceptable, employers are legally bound to do this:

Employers must ensure that women who are pregnant or on maternity leave are not discriminated against regarding promotional opportunities. For example, it would be unlawful discrimination for an employer to:

not inform a woman about any suitable vacancies;
discourage an employee from applying for a promotion; and/or
not promote someone who is the best person for the job, because they are pregnant or on maternity leave.

It's discrimination and sounds pretty clear cut from what OP has said.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2025 19:02

You should have been kept informed but would you have applied for a promotional role if you had been?

By your own admission you have met your colleagues but have purposefully not discussed work. You also refer to colleagues as "the girls" which indicates you aren't particularly career minded and have said you want to go part-time.

I'm not clear if you feel denied a career opportunity or if you wish to break professionally aggrieved. But yes, you shoukd have been informed of the restructure and u less vacancies relating to it weren't ringfenced you shoukd have been told about them, along with other vacancies.

Please don't go in all guns blazing vis a vis your rights. It's likely an oversight and a request for KIT day to discuss the changes, the future and that you would like to be considered for promotional opportunities in future, is likely to be far more constructive.

TappyGilmore · 12/04/2025 18:54

If it is a restructuring, the vacancies were likely not open to everyone to apply for. They were likely only available to those whose former roles had been disestablished (which was obviously not you). So no reason why you would need to be aware.

ACynicalDad · 12/04/2025 18:49

I'd call ACAS on Monday morning, then call HR at work. You may be able to make a claim against them.

lizzyBennet08 · 12/04/2025 18:45

To be fair I think you should have gotten weekly emails with any vacancies. It’s not up to hr to decid which ones are suitable , it should be all.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 11/04/2025 22:49

If you don't have access to the intranet where the posts were advertised, then yes, I think they absolutely should have informed you about the changes. It's unusual for women on mat leave to lose access to company email/intranet though.

CaptainFuture · 11/04/2025 22:46

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 11/04/2025 20:27

How do I know what?

That OP isn't asking to be made aware of every job vacancy?
Op says..I would expect everyone on maternity leave to be forwarded the emails with current internal vacancies so all vacancies?

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 11/04/2025 20:27

CaptainFuture · 11/04/2025 20:08

How do you know that?

How do I know what?

dementedpixie · 11/04/2025 20:16

They are discriminating against you by not informing you of vacancies and how the restructure might affect you

FTM1993 · 11/04/2025 20:14

BrightLightTonight · 11/04/2025 19:54

If the vacancies are advertised on the company internal webpages, then it is down to you to keep yourself informed, not down to your manager to contact you.

I don't have access to anything internal as I had to hand in all tech when I left. I don't know if I'm being unreasonable to expect an email with current internal vacancies as I have no way of knowing about these otherwise. But the consensus seems to be that I need to speak to HR about being kept informed about this as it is not an unreasonable expectation.

OP posts:
dementedpixie · 11/04/2025 20:13

From ACAS:
Keeping in touch with work

Before you go on maternity leave, your employer or manager should have a meeting with you to talk about how you'd like to stay in touch.

While you're on maternity leave, your employer must tell you about important changes that might affect you. For example:

  • promotion or other job opportunities
  • training
  • redundancies
  • any reorganisation

If your employer does not, this could be pregnancy and maternity discrimination.
You can also agree with them:

  • what else you'd like to hear about, for example staff bulletins or social events
  • how you'd like to communicate, for example by email, phone or keeping in touch (KIT) days
  • how often you'd like to be in touch
CaptainFuture · 11/04/2025 20:08

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 11/04/2025 20:05

OP isn't asking to be made aware of every job vacancy but she should be made aware of a restructuring that directly affects her and any job opportunities arising from that that she would have been eligible to apply for if she wasn't on maternity leave.

It would be unreasonable to expect women on maternity leave to check internal comms with the frequency someone not on maternity leave would be able to. Especially if they haven't even been made aware there is any reason they may need to.

She should have been made aware by her manager of the restructure and it's impact on her.

How do you know that?

Iudncuewbccgrcb · 11/04/2025 20:05

CaptainFuture · 11/04/2025 19:57

How big is your company? Do you want to be informed of every job advert for the entire company while your off, or do you expect the personal service of 'oooh bet @FTM1993 would like this job!!"

OP isn't asking to be made aware of every job vacancy but she should be made aware of a restructuring that directly affects her and any job opportunities arising from that that she would have been eligible to apply for if she wasn't on maternity leave.

It would be unreasonable to expect women on maternity leave to check internal comms with the frequency someone not on maternity leave would be able to. Especially if they haven't even been made aware there is any reason they may need to.

She should have been made aware by her manager of the restructure and it's impact on her.