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The police force attracts psychos.

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MerlinsBeard1 · 11/04/2025 12:35

After reading the most disgusting article the other day:
I was a NSW Police officer for ten years. This is the sick truth of what I saw... and why I warn my loved ones: 'Don't leave them alone with my corpse' | Daily Mail Online

Plus the endless other unacceptable incidents of late, not only in the UK but worldwide, AIBU to deduce that this profession in particular attracts psychos?

My trust in the Police is at rock bottom.

I was a cop. I tell loved ones 'don't leave them alone with my corpse'

Two former police officers claim they were bullied out of the force after blowing the whistle on shocking allegations.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14557639/NSW-Police-officer-ten-years-corpse.html

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twiddlingthumbs69 · 15/04/2025 17:24

I used to trust the police implicitly until a close relative became one. The stories I’ve heard about the abuse, lying, aggression from some members of the force is staggering. You’d think, with them having body worn cameras etc that would deter them but it’s surprising how often they “go offline” at opportune moments

Fgdvevfvdvfbdv · 15/04/2025 16:40

When I was a teenager/early 20s the most vile/skin crawling sexual comments I received came from 2 male police officers leaning out of their car when they were meant to be monitoring the town for trouble. Because I was young I thought if I reported it nobody would listen.

I know 2 police officers who love the power trip of the job. One harassed their neighbour and when the neighbour said they would call the police, they replied that they were the police so there was nothing they could do about it!

So I know from experience that the police force attracts bad people.

Grendel7 · 15/04/2025 16:25

Snorlaxo · 11/04/2025 12:44

Apparently CEOs are more likely to be psychopaths than the general population.

Psychopaths are attracted to jobs that give them power and policing gives them the opportunity to exercise that.

I understand that there are more reports of domestic violence within armed forces and policing families.Scary.

LBFseBrom · 13/04/2025 18:25

CwmYoy · 13/04/2025 11:00

In my (long) experience in teaching, school bullies become cops or join the army.

Yes they do and some become teachers.

Labelledelune · 13/04/2025 11:04

Depends really, I have police in my family and have always respected them. But now having been in close contact I really despair and the way the police are behaving at the moment. I now have no respect whatsoever for them.

CwmYoy · 13/04/2025 11:00

In my (long) experience in teaching, school bullies become cops or join the army.

MerlinsBeard1 · 13/04/2025 10:40

MoonWoman69 · 12/04/2025 23:54

And the ex policewoman there, posing for pouting selfies is as bad, when it comes to mobile phones in that particular profession if you ask me!
I think every profession has its psychos, just that it seems to be worse in the medical and police ones.
The police should have some sort of recording device that's on a live feed only, to a main server which can record. And not be allowed mobile phones with them at all. If they can stop retail staff having them on the shop floor, they can do it in any job where there is the likelihood of abuse.

'And the ex policewoman there, posing for pouting selfies is as bad, when it comes to mobile phones in that particular profession if you ask me!'

It's extremely unprofessional for sure, I wouldn't say taking a selfie whilst in uniform is 'as bad' as passing around naked pictures of dead women and rating their tits though!

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MerlinsBeard1 · 13/04/2025 10:38

Katie0909 · 12/04/2025 21:10

This is so true. The other reason is that the police are very hot nowadays on investigating allegations & sacking people for misconduct. They are also bound to report them publicly whereas many other private & public organisations just move people in & sweep it under the carpet.

Well no, a huge part of the problem is this misogynist culture has been swept under the carpet in many cases because many of these departments have lots of police men who are complicit.

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MerlinsBeard1 · 13/04/2025 10:35

asrl78 · 12/04/2025 18:50

YABU to think the Daily Mail bears any resemblance to objective reporting and the truth.

Extremely bizarre take from this post. Does the fact the Daily Mail reported this story invalidate what this woman witnessed as a police officer of 10 years? Did you not see the other links I have attached from a variety of media outlets?

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Jeezitneverends · 13/04/2025 10:13

AlisounOfBath · 11/04/2025 13:23

I briefly dated a copper. Absolutely nothing would surprise me. To him, criminals were scum and victims were morons. No empathy whatsoever.

It’s almost like dealing with every bit of shite life throws at people changes you…it’s said that the average person deals what 4-5 properly traumatic experiences in their life, whilst for police officers it’s about 6000.

That being said, there are and have always been some proper c u next Tuesday police officers (I’ve been on the receiving end of it at work) but it’s just that fortunately it’s not as well hidden these days as people are more likely to speak up.

As others have said though, the vast majority of police officers go into the job to help people and try to make a difference.

Givemethereins · 13/04/2025 09:25

superplumb · 11/04/2025 12:41

Agree. There are also bad teachers, bad nurses and Dr, scout leaders...and let's not mention priests .
If someone is bad, they will go to a job which allows ans hides their bad behaviour. Policing is no different

What? Of course policing is different than teaching? The only business of policing is power/control. The uniform, the weopons, the physical violence involved. Its testerone city. Thats not even tackling the boys club culture, and thats putting it politely.
Lumping teaching and random other professions with policing, smells like your trying to downplay the very clear line of violent men in policing ratio.

Penguinmouse · 13/04/2025 08:09

Sofiewoo · 11/04/2025 12:37

Any position of power attracts those who seek to exploit others.

Agree with this and genuinely think that it needs to be interrogated more in the interview stage. Almost like wanting to be a police officer should disqualify you - that’s a tongue in cheek comment but there have been so many cases of late where better vetting and testing during application would have stopped these people being recruited in the first place.

3tumsnot1 · 13/04/2025 08:06

LadyLucyWells · 11/04/2025 12:52

Always thought this was obvious. A job which provides power over others.

I do have a very good friend who is a Met Officer, though, and he is not like that at all.

And I have 2 friends who are detectives and they are both brilliant human beings who would never do anything like this.

RareFatball · 13/04/2025 06:30

Serencwtch · 11/04/2025 13:20

The Daily mail article is about the police in Australia. I've never visited Australia or had any contact with the police over there.

I have unfortunately had many contacts with Police in this country & virtually all have been hardworking, empathetic and caring.

They have one of the toughest jobs in the country. Imagine knocking on someone's door out of the blue to tell them their child has been killed then going to another job to be assaulted, sworn at, spat at then on to another to talk down someone suicidal then on to non-negotiable & non paid overtime to be first on scene to a fatal road collision.

All the time under immense scrutiny from public who thinks they would do better in any of those situations & all the time dealing with ever diminishing resources.

There will always be a level of arrogance among a minority of officers & there should be robust procedures to deal with that.

I have also had many contacts with NHS staff in this country & found repeated failures, lies & cover ups.

The Daily mail will bash the police & will put our NHS 'angels' on a pedestal because it sells papers to people who want to read those articles.

I couldn't agree more with what you have said. Have a few members of my family in the Police Force, Fire Service and Prison Service.
Having worked briefly within the NHS before I retired, it was a real eye opener as to the many mistakes made and the covering up of those mistakes.

MoonWoman69 · 12/04/2025 23:54

And the ex policewoman there, posing for pouting selfies is as bad, when it comes to mobile phones in that particular profession if you ask me!
I think every profession has its psychos, just that it seems to be worse in the medical and police ones.
The police should have some sort of recording device that's on a live feed only, to a main server which can record. And not be allowed mobile phones with them at all. If they can stop retail staff having them on the shop floor, they can do it in any job where there is the likelihood of abuse.

Katie0909 · 12/04/2025 21:10

LondonSamantha · 11/04/2025 12:47

I'd argue that focusing on the Police aspect gives them better headlines than any other jobs, because people love hating the Police, it sells doesn't it. Unsure about prevalent but definitely sells more in the news than if they wrote about other careers

This is so true. The other reason is that the police are very hot nowadays on investigating allegations & sacking people for misconduct. They are also bound to report them publicly whereas many other private & public organisations just move people in & sweep it under the carpet.

spicemaiden · 12/04/2025 18:52

Have you ever heard of predators hiding in plain sight? Well, it applies to all positions of trust.

Hellskitchen24 · 11/04/2025 17:55

MerlinsBeard1 · 11/04/2025 14:59

Can't say I have ever seen people slagging off Drs or nurses.

Tons of posts on here slagging off both.

MerlinsBeard1 · 11/04/2025 16:25

Wishyouwerehere50 · 11/04/2025 15:42

I don't know if we have the specific details but I watched a few documentaries about this case. Beautiful young lady 🙏.

The scary highlights in addition to that hideous creature were references to the WhatsApp group chats with a number of other officers. Horrible. There was a suggestion he knew the Police were about to turn up and question him at home I recall. So another officer would have tipped him off.

I can't remember if the flashing his disgusting penis at McDonald's incident was reported. Surely not, surely a police officer wouldn't be allowed to flash their little wiener and continue working? 😬

Yep I believe a scary proportion will be wronguns on varying scales. Most at the lowest level will have misogynistic views in some form imo.

Again the fact he was known to be a creep amongst his colleagues who apparently found it funny shows the culture we are dealing with.
Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer found guilty - BBC News

He was given the nickname of 'The Rapist' amongst his fellow police officers, 3 years prior to being employed by The Met. And yes, he got away with flashing at a McDonald's worker.

Wayne Couzens nicknamed ‘The Rapist’ three years before he was hired by Met | The Standard

Joel Borders and Jonathon Cobban

Wayne Couzens: PCs in WhatsApp group with Sarah Everard killer found guilty

Two Met PCs shared grossly offensive messages on WhatsApp with Sarah Everard's killer Wayne Couzens.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-62981675

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Middleagedstriker · 11/04/2025 15:49

Tvp123 · 11/04/2025 13:23

DH is American and he says it is way worse over there than here in terms of that. Thinks our police force is fantastic in comparison.

Like saying Johnson wasn't as bad as Trump. Low low bar

Wishyouwerehere50 · 11/04/2025 15:42

I don't know if we have the specific details but I watched a few documentaries about this case. Beautiful young lady 🙏.

The scary highlights in addition to that hideous creature were references to the WhatsApp group chats with a number of other officers. Horrible. There was a suggestion he knew the Police were about to turn up and question him at home I recall. So another officer would have tipped him off.

I can't remember if the flashing his disgusting penis at McDonald's incident was reported. Surely not, surely a police officer wouldn't be allowed to flash their little wiener and continue working? 😬

Yep I believe a scary proportion will be wronguns on varying scales. Most at the lowest level will have misogynistic views in some form imo.

MerlinsBeard1 · 11/04/2025 15:34

Indeed the article I attached initially is about NSW, Australia. Which is why I added that it appears to be a worldwide problem. Here are but a few incidents I have managed to find just from looking for 5 mins! This rotten predatory/sexist culture is prolific, especially amongst Thames Valley and The Met.

Ex-Northamptonshire Police officer charged with rape and kidnap - BBC News
Serving Met Police officer charged with four counts of rape
Police officer arrested and jailed for actions to crime victim - Manchester Evening News
Met officer charged with sexually assaulting three men and a woman | Metropolitan Police
Former Devon and Cornwall police officer who raped woman jailed - BBC News
Met Police officer sacked after sexual assault allegation | The Standard
Two Metropolitan Police officers charged with sexual assault - BBC News
Senior Met Police officer charged with attempted rape and sexual assault | The Independent
Met Police officer sacked over sexual assault allegation - BBC News
Thames Valley Police: Officers disciplined for sexual misconduct - BBC News

Of course, no woman will ever forget the Wayne Couzens case either.

A yellow brick building with "crown and county courts" written on the side. There is blue skies above.

Ex-Northamptonshire Police officer charged with rape and kidnap

The court is told the offences took place between 2023 and 2025.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8kvd4gn8zo

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CarpetKnees · 11/04/2025 15:28

Serencwtch · 11/04/2025 13:20

The Daily mail article is about the police in Australia. I've never visited Australia or had any contact with the police over there.

I have unfortunately had many contacts with Police in this country & virtually all have been hardworking, empathetic and caring.

They have one of the toughest jobs in the country. Imagine knocking on someone's door out of the blue to tell them their child has been killed then going to another job to be assaulted, sworn at, spat at then on to another to talk down someone suicidal then on to non-negotiable & non paid overtime to be first on scene to a fatal road collision.

All the time under immense scrutiny from public who thinks they would do better in any of those situations & all the time dealing with ever diminishing resources.

There will always be a level of arrogance among a minority of officers & there should be robust procedures to deal with that.

I have also had many contacts with NHS staff in this country & found repeated failures, lies & cover ups.

The Daily mail will bash the police & will put our NHS 'angels' on a pedestal because it sells papers to people who want to read those articles.

Well said.

Wishyouwerehere50 · 11/04/2025 15:22

Hellskitchen24 · 11/04/2025 13:29

Or nurses and doctors, normally at least one thread on here slagging them off. Funny how it’s always the fault of the people who teach our kids, police our streets and look after our sick family and friends in hospital who are the dregs of society. The people who worked throughout Covid. Funnily enough all massively unstaffed, underpaid and under appreciated too. Whereas Karen who works from home in a non entity marketing job is an absolute saint.

We all generalise and it's important to caveat I think. Which I don't always do.

I worked on a few Police projects with sex workers in London. I was a civilian employee. I'd say 8 out of the 10 police officers kind of scared me. I was only 25, very naive, yet I recall thinking and feeling that they were, well very much wronguns.

I've spent significant amounts of time in hospital, very sick and vulnerable ( dependant, bed bound, useless family so alone). That was my second awakening. The number of very scary individuals in healthcare I've experienced over the years has really turned my world upside down. To know so many people are out there. Compassion fatigue is one thing, others were something slightly further along. Nurses and doctors; something not right, from cruel, one was absolutely sociopathic and very scary. I'm what you would call a compliant, respectful and polite patient btw.

I recall one time where I loved the nurses. They were a group dedicated to supporting me. They were mostly Portuguese. They were just wonderful caring people, nearly all of them. I've met some great nurses and mostly HCAs were great, being worked to the brink. Less power so maybe that's why they've always been the nicest.

I would like to find a way to depart this world before I ever face a care home or anything near that. When you have direct experience of people with power, this problem is apparent. Not all, but a scary enough number. It's terrifying, believe it.