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Anyone read about the mum getting arrested for taking her dcs ipads?

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Trumpsgoneloco · 11/04/2025 09:41

I'm so confused by this story, parents are constantly told to be more proactive around tech - I've often confiscated screens myself & that police are too stretched to deal with stolen cars etc.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/surrey-police-uk-mother-arrested-childs-ipad-vanessa-brown/

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Marieb19 · 13/04/2025 13:32

The police should be interviewing the 40 year old man for wasting police time.

Roxietrees · 13/04/2025 12:20

This is ridiculous, what an absolute embarrassment for the police, I bet the officers involved are getting the absolute piss ripped out of them daily after this! I’ve got friends who’ve been burgled where the police didn’t even attend the same day.

However I think the (presumably) ex should be prosecuted for wasting police time, he sounds controlling and abusive and he’ll be loving that she got arrested and was held for 7 hours. Someone needs to wipe that stupid smug smile off his face

CharlotteLightandDark · 13/04/2025 12:04

Dotjones · 11/04/2025 10:06

She could have saved herself a lot of trouble by explaining to the police that she'd confiscated iPads that belonged to her children. It sounds like the ex is a bit of a dick, but she doesn't seem to have helped her situation either.

If someone reports an iPad stolen and they find the person who has them then it seems reasonable for the police to get involved. Either the ex reported the theft in good faith or he made a false report. If the latter the police can investigate him and she can take legal action against him.

The fact she's 50, a teacher and was left traumatised by time in a police cell is irrelevant. Lots of people would be left traumatised by being in a police cell for the first time - it's only the hardened or repeat offender who isn't.

I don’t know, I’ve spent the odd night in a cell during my misspent youth - it’s boring and not very comfortable but to say it’s traumatising is a stretch.

Arran2024 · 13/04/2025 12:00

Oblomov25 · 13/04/2025 06:52

"There was a 3 hour delay between her solicitor being notified"...

Surrey Police have an awful reputation for overzealous treatment of mothers. I know of many similar cases to this.

Yes, Caroline Farrow for starters.

Arran2024 · 13/04/2025 11:59

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 13/04/2025 06:29

Yes I did. Which is why i said there is more to this than what the media are printing. But people seem to be ignoring that and as usual blaming the men (not just one abusive ex but two) and even saying one must be a policeman.

Police don't do a welfare check on flimsy reasons. Police don't turn up to a school to do a welfare check on flimsy reasons. The woman refused to cooperate and lied to the police.

There is so much more to this than what the media are telling us.

The welfare check was made at address (a), where the man was. He then claimed the ipads were stolen and were at address (b), which is where the police went to ask the mother about them.

We don't know why the welfare check was carried out - it could be him accusing her, or a neighbour calling the police.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 13/04/2025 09:34

They weren't called initially about the iPads, they were called as there was some fear to someone's safety. They even had an ambulance called. It was whilst the police were there that the iPads were mentioned and tracked.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/04/2025 09:20

Dad sounds like a controlling arse but even he probably didn't think it would escalate this much!

Sadworld23 · 13/04/2025 08:41

Sounds like a right mess, I feel sorry for the kids, no wonder they are playing up.

MargaretThursday · 13/04/2025 07:30

The police put out a statement about this, saying social media was misrepresenting it. I can't remember exactly what it said, but it seemed reasonable sensible.

The main fault was the ex clearly. I doubt extremely that he wasn't totally aware of the situation. I can't remember whether the police report said he'd been cautioned for wasting police time or just spoken to, but they were pretty clear that they felt it was on him.
But mum could have avoided it by saying the true situation. They won't have walked up and arrested her without and chance for her to say "the only iPads here are the kids and they're confiscated due to xyz". I don't believe it didn't occur to her at any point that if two iPads were showing on the app as inside, which they told her, that they were her kids. She denied she had iPads, I suspect more than once.
For what end she denied it I cannot think of any sane reason.
I suppose she could have been hoping that it would come back on her ex, in the way it has, but it's a risky strategy, because you can't predict SM.

FortyElephants · 13/04/2025 06:54

FeelingLessTired · 11/04/2025 10:30

I had a friend whose former husband was an abusive piece of shit. He bought a playstation for his son for Christmas, then when the son took the PS home to his mother's house (his usual place of abode) the husband reported her to the police for 'theft'.

The police took him apart. So he then tried to continue this particular form of abuse through the family court. As it ended up being the last in a long list of similar actions the court made a ruling he was not to bring anything trivial in front of them again or there would be consequences (not sure what those would be though).

The consequence would be that he wouldn't be allowed to make any new applications without permission of the court.

Oblomov25 · 13/04/2025 06:52

"There was a 3 hour delay between her solicitor being notified"...

Surrey Police have an awful reputation for overzealous treatment of mothers. I know of many similar cases to this.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 13/04/2025 06:29

hiddeneverythin · 12/04/2025 23:40

Did anyone read the statement from Surrey(?) Police on social media explaining it all. Not at all a case of any police needing fired. They’d have had better things to do and would have been annoyed at their time being wasted on this nonsense

Yes I did. Which is why i said there is more to this than what the media are printing. But people seem to be ignoring that and as usual blaming the men (not just one abusive ex but two) and even saying one must be a policeman.

Police don't do a welfare check on flimsy reasons. Police don't turn up to a school to do a welfare check on flimsy reasons. The woman refused to cooperate and lied to the police.

There is so much more to this than what the media are telling us.

messybutfun · 13/04/2025 03:31

So after releasing the woman after several hours she was told not to speak to her children? What planet are these police on? How can they expect a mother not to speak to her children (unless she has a restraining order against her)?
That police statement is only throwing up more questions. Were all those welfare calls to one address and the school warranted? Did the school have any welfare concerns? Is everyone that had to be attended by welfare officers ok?

hiddeneverythin · 12/04/2025 23:40

Did anyone read the statement from Surrey(?) Police on social media explaining it all. Not at all a case of any police needing fired. They’d have had better things to do and would have been annoyed at their time being wasted on this nonsense

Exdonkeylover · 12/04/2025 21:54

springbringshope · 12/04/2025 20:58

And you believe this? The woman is a teacher. She is more than capable of explaining. And surprise surprise the police body cams recording the actual event have disappeared
so frankly nothing they say has any credibility. The police have now admitted the mother did nothing wrong.
the ex has history of being controlling and calling the police erroneously. That the police have been stupidly willing to be used as his pawns.

local Facebook groups ablaze in support of her and stating the ex is awful

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More than capable of explaining, doesn't actually equal explaining.

It sound like you'd still argue the case if the body cam footage was out there. But police very rarely release that. We're it America when they release it at the drop of a hat.

HardyCrow · 12/04/2025 21:52

CheeringOnTheSmartyPants · 11/04/2025 11:19

For me it’s clearly a case of abuse through authorities - happens all the time.
a deliberately vexatious complaint designed to cause trouble, possibly even timed for Mother’s Day.

My bigger concern is the police reaction, it’s not simply “over-zealous” it is, like the complaint, deliberate. You don’t get held for hours for a possible iPad theft when it’s clearly domestic and their are kids involved, or send police cars to schools because you think mum stole an iPad? Nor do you get bail conditions stopping you seeing your children for something like this (non abusive/non violent, not kid related)

officer involved should be fired, they are either dangerously incompetent or complicit in abuse - either one is sackable.

I’d be very keen to examine any relationships between the officer/s and the complaining man.

This

MesmerisingMuon · 12/04/2025 21:17

Reading between the lines, it seems that the dad likely bought the kids ipads (hence could track location) that therefore belonged to the kids.

He maliciously reported them stolen (I'm sure he would have known the address of his ex's mum. Probably one of kids told him mum had taken them).

The mum quite rightfully said she didn't know the whereabouts of stolen ipads because why would she know about stolen ipads? She had taken her kids ipads.

I hope the man who made the (malicious) call to the police is charged with wasting police time. It is the only way to make amends in this ridiculous scenario!!

thebrollachan · 12/04/2025 21:08

She's not very lucky with men, is she? She was sued by another ex for defamation after she put up some posts about her experiences of DV (without naming anyone). He lost! The decision is on the court website but the MSM seem to have avoided doing any proper journalism, in favour of pointing at the mere existence of the lawsuit and waggling their eyebrows suggestively.

springbringshope · 12/04/2025 20:58

Exdonkeylover · 12/04/2025 17:50

Yes, they've said they were already at her house, when they got the call. Using find my iPad, found them in the house, but she denied all knowledge of them, then refused to cooperate with the police, therefore was arrested.

If she'd explained everything at the start, I'm.sure it could have been resolved straight away. Guessing (as Plod statement doesn't say) that they went to the school to enquire with children what had happened.

And you believe this? The woman is a teacher. She is more than capable of explaining. And surprise surprise the police body cams recording the actual event have disappeared
so frankly nothing they say has any credibility. The police have now admitted the mother did nothing wrong.
the ex has history of being controlling and calling the police erroneously. That the police have been stupidly willing to be used as his pawns.

local Facebook groups ablaze in support of her and stating the ex is awful

springbringshope · 12/04/2025 20:54

Boohai · 11/04/2025 09:45

They didn't belong to her. They were the property of her ex. She lied about not knowing where they were.

Nope. They belonged to the kids. And the police admitted she was completely within her rights to take them in a parenting capacity and tell them to do their homework. She’s a teacher. She was quite reasonable. It happened in my town. The local social media pages are in uproar. The man should be charged for wasting police time. The police should be embarrassed to have been used as pawns

Theunamedcat · 12/04/2025 20:47

They did all this but the amount of stories you read about people tracking their own iPhone to an address because the police won't get involved and even with that the police STILL won't get involved because "it might not be accurate" yet they do all this over a welfare check and a couple of pads?

Something doesn't add up

Undercover4ever · 12/04/2025 20:32

All I can say is, ex asked for a welfare check (abuse involved) despite there being a note on another police system not to engage. Over zealous officer passed on check to other force and officer carried out said check at midnight! and then when i explained, they apologised as did the other force when they realised (two forces involved because of distance). It happens that ex's like to continue control and then involve police. Generally I think they are clued up nowadays because of more DV training but my understanding from an DA advisor is that it really depends on the force and also the individual officer involved. It also depends on the schools and any SS involvement.. #

I must admit my first thought on reading the headline was I bet there's an ex involved!

Arran2024 · 12/04/2025 19:35

Exdonkeylover · 12/04/2025 17:50

Yes, they've said they were already at her house, when they got the call. Using find my iPad, found them in the house, but she denied all knowledge of them, then refused to cooperate with the police, therefore was arrested.

If she'd explained everything at the start, I'm.sure it could have been resolved straight away. Guessing (as Plod statement doesn't say) that they went to the school to enquire with children what had happened.

They were at address (a) for the welfare call when the man reported the theft of the ipads, which the tracker was showing at address (b). So the police went to address (b) where they spoke to the woman in her 50s ie the mum, who didn't cooperate.

We don't know why she didn't cooperate but it looks like she wasn't at the house for the welfare call.

croydon15 · 12/04/2025 19:30

I can't understand how come that the police responded when they never seem to attend burglaries etc. Talk about over zealous.

TimeConsuming · 12/04/2025 19:20

Trumpsgoneloco · 11/04/2025 10:02

I'm just more shocked the police actually attended it tbh.

Yes. Any chance to arrest/intimidate a woman at the behest of a man. The police know what they’re doing — so it’s deliberate. If they don’t know what they’re doing, they’re incompetent/not fit for purpose.

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