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It is so hard for me to stay away from this cruel sadistic man

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Confusedsue · 10/04/2025 19:31

Now we have been on and off for a few years now. He is very hot and cold, he has never fully committed to a "proper" relationship with me although after everything I have found out plus his actions I do not want to be in a relationship with him.

I am so attracted to him sexually more than I ever have been with anyone. I just find him so attractive and I love the sex with him. Anyway he recently let me down again and I often feel that he gets off on hurting people. Even though I know how he is it still hurt me. Anyway I have decided to just keep him as just sex now and again when I want it that way I have no expectations and cannot be hurt by him plus I completely realise now that under no circumstances would I want to be in a relationship with him.

To top it off he has recently been exposed as being abusive to many of his exes. There has been rumours in the past but now there is an official investigation against him as many people have come forward.

Apologies for the length. I just wanted to get it off my chest. His recent behaviour towards me really frustrated me and upset me. I will never put myself in that position again. I guess I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt, but now I have fully decided I don't want anymore from him. Just sex now and again until I meet someone else.

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Confusedsue · 12/04/2025 18:17

I definitely won't have expectations from him. I do not want to be with him. These new revelations of him confirmed it for me.

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SpainToday · 12/04/2025 18:15

You're too invested for a no-strings sex arrangement with this man. You won't be able to stop yourself from having expectations.

This

Confusedsue · 12/04/2025 18:14

@springbringshope
No I don't usually crave validation from anyone. I usually couldn't care less.

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Confusedsue · 12/04/2025 18:13

@springbringshope
I have no idea what it is. All very strange. No idea why I crave him so much and so attracted to him, physically and sexually.

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springbringshope · 12/04/2025 18:11

Do you maybe have some issue where you crave validation and that’s what’s driving your intense attraction to him? Because he is awful to you you crave his approval through sex?

Smallmercies · 12/04/2025 18:02

Confusedsue · 12/04/2025 17:59

Thanks for all the comments. No I will not tolerate this from other men. This has definitely been a learning experience which will inform me to make better decisions in future.

Hmmm.

Confusedsue · 12/04/2025 17:59

Thanks for all the comments. No I will not tolerate this from other men. This has definitely been a learning experience which will inform me to make better decisions in future.

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unsync · 11/04/2025 18:29

Get help. If you let one man do this to you, you are vulnerable to others doing the same. Work on your self esteem and personal boundaries.

NovemberMorn · 11/04/2025 17:35

IUsedToLoveTheMrMen · 11/04/2025 14:20

A lot of really cruel posts to the OP.

Yes obviously dating a man who treats you badly is not a situation to be desired and yes of course in an ideal world the OP would kick him to the kerb and walk away with head held high.

Lots of reasons make people have poor boundries, poor self esteem and crave bad treatment. Children who were abused by their parents literally crave the comfort of the familiar treatment and seek it out.

Obviously it's a pattern you want to stop and I don't know how you do it. Therapy I guess which is expensive and costs alot. It's not a quick fix and can take years and be very expensive.

All I'm saying is you can point out the problem and be more kind in your support and suggestions. A person addicted to cruel behaviour has probably been brainwashed to expect it and being mocked on mumsnet is probably not going to help the OP.

The irony is a bit much. Don't take the cruel treatment from this man but here lets all give you a kicking on mumsnet

Most of the replies have been advising her to move on, he is nothing but trouble.
The OP did ask for advice, but if she comes back defending her actions, when deep down she knows he is nothing but trouble, for her and every other woman who gets hooked up with him, it's obvious she is either on a wind up or she will just ignore the well meaning advice she has been given.

ConnieSlow · 11/04/2025 14:36

The thing is op, YOU and only YOU are responsible for the choices you make. You say he is cruel, abusive and awful but yet you are willingly making the choice to keep going to him. What does that say about you.
you need a clean break, but then again it’s only something you can do.

IUsedToLoveTheMrMen · 11/04/2025 14:20

A lot of really cruel posts to the OP.

Yes obviously dating a man who treats you badly is not a situation to be desired and yes of course in an ideal world the OP would kick him to the kerb and walk away with head held high.

Lots of reasons make people have poor boundries, poor self esteem and crave bad treatment. Children who were abused by their parents literally crave the comfort of the familiar treatment and seek it out.

Obviously it's a pattern you want to stop and I don't know how you do it. Therapy I guess which is expensive and costs alot. It's not a quick fix and can take years and be very expensive.

All I'm saying is you can point out the problem and be more kind in your support and suggestions. A person addicted to cruel behaviour has probably been brainwashed to expect it and being mocked on mumsnet is probably not going to help the OP.

The irony is a bit much. Don't take the cruel treatment from this man but here lets all give you a kicking on mumsnet

StrawberryDream24 · 11/04/2025 07:52

I am ready to move on and find someone decent.

So, move on and find someone decent.

You won't be fully emotionally available until you're no longer intimate with him, seeing him etc.

Also most men don't want to get into steady relationships with women who are on fwb situations with other men.

What if Mr abuser gives you some nasty std before you stop having sex with him - and then you have to tell the decent guy, and maybe that guy doesn't want to risk herpes for decades, so he declines to get into a serious relationship with you.

You are right about the addiction btw - it's an oxytocin, chemical and psychological addiction. You keep trying to win with him. You're addicted to the high of attention and validation after the low of being rejected/apparently discarded.

Get out of that cycle.

Nothing will get you out of that cycle other than stopping seeing him having contact with him, and being intimate with him.

Smallmercies · 11/04/2025 07:31

Confusedsue · 10/04/2025 22:42

My self esteem is honestly fine so people don't need to keep saying that. I understand that I am caught up on this no good man and it is like some sort of addiction. I think I am just waiting for someone else to take my mind of him - someone I am equally attracted to.

There is actually someone I have in mind and my gosh they have got to be a better person than him. Part of me is actually greatful as I know I will truly appreciate the next man after this no good man.

There is someone you "have in mind"? While you're obsessing over this other loser? Your love life is a total car crash! I pity the other person you "have in mind".

ASimpleLampoon · 11/04/2025 06:55

You need to give up the sex. He is dangerous and could harm you. Why don't you go forward too and report him for abuse Like others are doing

Watch 're documentary on Andrew Tate and ask yourself do you even want to be in bed with someone like that

OfNoOne · 11/04/2025 01:13

Confusedsue · 10/04/2025 22:27

Sorry I know I probably have brain fog with this man but why do you think he despises me? Do you think he despises all women?

A man who abuses women is a man who despises women. Assuming you're a woman, that means he despises you.

He is a risk to your psychological and physical health. He is a risk to other women. If you have children, he's a risk to them and to your continued custody of them.

No penis is worth those risks. Get a vibrator and therapy. You'll be happier in the longer term.

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 11/04/2025 00:36

I'm not sure if you are being disingenuous now. It's quite obvious that a serial abuser hates women. You even asking that feels like you are minimising his past victims

It's also extremely destructive behaviour to stay sleeping with an abuser "until you find someone else you are equally attracted to."

That simply does not speak to a good, healthy self esteem.

RobertaFirmino · 10/04/2025 23:25

Now listen here, lady. Take your brain out of your knickers and put it back in your skull, where it belongs.

singlewhitetrashheap · 10/04/2025 23:12

taps sign

Stop being a bloody doormat, and block him.

It is so hard for me to stay away from this cruel sadistic man
PenguinChops · 10/04/2025 23:11

You are a fool. A slave to an abusive man. Just … think

tsmainsqueeze · 10/04/2025 23:09

Jabberwok · 10/04/2025 19:44

Jesus... Why just why...I worked with a woman like you for 2 long, hard, tiring years...by about 3 months I'd stopped giving an opinion, after 6 I stopped listening.

Why put yourself through this. It's like saying "I know this chicken is moldy but I'm going to eat it anyway"

Exactly !

How can you find this vile man appealing knowing he has abused other women?
If you continue with him i would keep it to yourself as people are going to get bored fairly quickly listening to your woes.
Surely you can do better than this.

ItGhoul · 10/04/2025 23:09

Confusedsue · 10/04/2025 22:27

Sorry I know I probably have brain fog with this man but why do you think he despises me? Do you think he despises all women?

He despises women in general and he gets a kick of humiliating them. You repeatedly humiliate yourself by crawling back to him for sex every time. You are essentially making into victim, willingly, and he laughing at you. He literally just wants to see how much he bring you down before he discards you.

Your self-esteem is not fine. You are deluded. If you had self-esteem you wouldn’t be pining after an abuser who hates you. You’re almost romanticising your own victimhood.

Malorcamum · 10/04/2025 22:56

You accept the love you feel you deserve.

I don’t know you, but I know that you deserve better- nobody deserves that.

TwistedWonder · 10/04/2025 22:49

Your self esteem is absolutely not fine if the only way you can get your mind off him is with another man. Real esteem is found by bring happy within yourself not validating your self worth jumping from one bloke to the next.

No one with good self esteem would touch a known abuser with a 20 foot pole - don’t demean yourself with delusion.

And of course an abuser hates women - that’s in their DNA.

Octoberdreaming · 10/04/2025 22:45

With respect OP, you need to seek some therapy and read up on the ‘shark cage’ theory. Block, delete and ghost this toxic trash bag.

Confusedsue · 10/04/2025 22:44

I understand I can be single for a while but I am ready to date again after a long term relationship this is the man I met but I am ready to move on and find someone decent.

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