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Colleagues spoke about me on Teams call thinking I wasn’t there - do I say anything

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AndreaGreen · 10/04/2025 16:30

I had a video call with two colleagues earlier, from a different area of the business and who I hadn’t met before. They were from the same team so knew each other, and our call was to discuss a project coming up involving the department I’m in.

I had a shitty nights sleep with my DD and to be honest wasn’t 100% with it on the call, I was a bit slow on articulating myself a couple of times and muddled through one answer in particular.

My doorbell went about 5 minutes from the end for a delivery I was expecting, I said I was just going to get it and muted myself/turned camera off as I would usually. As I got up my DH (on his lunch break) shouted up that he’d answer it.

I went to sit back down and obviously the two colleagues were still on the screen. I heard one of them mutter something about the call being hard work. The other one then made a comment about my appearance, which was basically that ‘it’s a good job she’s a looker as I don’t think any man would be with her for her brains’ and the other one laughed. They were then quiet clearly waiting for me to return.

I felt upset at this point so gave it a minute and typed in the chat that something had come up and I couldn’t rejoin, and that any other questions they could put in the chat to me.

I cried my eyes out afterwards, I feel stressed enough as it is and this has really hit my confidence. DH thinks I should report them but the call wasn’t recorded and it would be my word against theirs.

Do you think I’m overreacting or would you look to report this?

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LisbonJacaranda · 11/04/2025 20:10

BasicBrumble · 11/04/2025 11:29

I frequently answer the door. If I know a parcel is coming I warn people at the beginning of the meeting it might happen. I've done it on client calls where I know the people. I probably only wouldn't do it during a job interview or very important new client. It seems to be common (ie I see other people and clients do it all the time) and not a big deal.

Yes - my clients often let me know they’re expecting a delivery and it’s fine, it only takes a minute or two to answer the door.

Tapsthemic · 11/04/2025 20:08

AndreaGreen · 11/04/2025 12:50

I spoke to my manager but probably shouldn’t have bothered. She wasn’t in the best of moods as stressed with work and I could tell I didn’t have her full attention (regularly looking to her second screen and typing). I did mention the appearance related comment and had to explain it a couple of times because she wasn’t fully listening.

She says they shouldn’t have said it and if I wanted to report it, she’d support me but also said without a recording as evidence, it will be very hard to prove. What also annoyed me is she said that I should be glad to still be getting compliments given the stress of motherhood and to enjoy it whilst it lasts as she longs for the days when men found her attractive!

I am just going to leave it - I don’t work Friday afternoon’s so will try to enjoy the sun and forget about it.

Blimey! Where do you work, 1957?! That is a terrible response - I’m so sorry, please know that you are not alone. Something similar happened to me, it happens a lot more than ppl realise and it always reflects more on the perpetrators so please don’t internalise any of this utter BS.

Definitely flag it - if anything, these two “colleagues” are a problem for the company, if they can’t behave professionally in meetings. Imagine if you were an external client!

LadyLapsang · 11/04/2025 20:07

Depending on the situation / seniority, I would have either come straight back onto the call and say, ‘Gentleman, you forget yourselves’ and give them a very hard stare. Otherwise, I would have returned to the call and been icily professional. Mind you, I would not leave a call to answer the door unless it was with someone I knew well, I certainly wouldn’t interrupt a meeting with people I had just met.

TeenLifeMum · 11/04/2025 19:47

Dumb of them to talk about you on a live call but you’ve said yourself you weren’t coming across well. Have you really never slagged off a colleague after a meeting that was a waste of time.

if you need to work with these people I’d send an email direct saying your comments were heard and I’m very unimpressed. I have a great deal of experience and knowledge so if that didn’t come across in the meeting I can only apologies but I hope to receive an apology from you and then we can draw a line and move forward with this project. Regards op.

Re answering the door when wfh. I cringe when it happens but I’ve had to leave occasionally to do this and it’s accepted in my work. We also all seem to have had puppies over the last 3 years so popping off a call to open the door is fine too. I can always hear the call even when not on screen and that’s our expectation. I once started a meeting with my director and a couple of others by saying I’m going to pour a coffee but I can still hear you. (I had been on back to back calls with no opportunity to drink or wee).

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:45

SleepQuest33 · 11/04/2025 19:22

Ohhh 👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻you must be so proud! Well done. 😎🤓

Yes thanks - he could so easily be an arse like the blokes on Ops call. Instead he would not have behave like her manager, he’s have used his position to speak up for her… that’s what allies do.

I apologise if I responded with too much acid to @Trolleysaregoodforemployment reply given her dyslexia. However, it’s not snobbery to point out that if senior directors/CEOs and CFOs happily step away from calls to take answer the door, like OP did and for which she has been accused of being unprofessional - and therefore for some fucked up reason almost deserving of the misogyny she received.

Pomvit · 11/04/2025 19:41

Was it definitely about you

Bowies · 11/04/2025 19:39

The door bell thing is not a huge deal, but OP was not the only one home. She should have left it for DH to answer, especially being aware of how badly the meeting was going.

I said not to bother reporting, but OPs boss sounds a bit crap. OP saying she’s been upset by an incident and highlighting she’s not performed well and left a meeting early should at least be heard and recorded. Advice from HR should also have been sought by her boss.

Doesn’t seem like a great place to work.

TeaIsNice · 11/04/2025 19:30

Report it 100%

PooksBear · 11/04/2025 19:30

IdaGlossop · 10/04/2025 17:09

Very bad behaviour. No wonder you are upset. I'd go down the direct route too, and send them both a voice note. 'It's a shame you both made unpleasant, misogynistic comments about me when you thought I was out of earshot. Just as well I'm not a client. What you don't know is that I was not firing on all four cylinders in our meeting after a bad night's sleep. Please be more careful, both of you, from now on.' I wouldn't report it - no evidence and though offensive, in my view, it makes too much of it.

I would have got back on the call and said "Do you know what misogyny means?" But then I don't give a shit about saying it especially to 2 blokes. Watch them squirm

Spaghettihair · 11/04/2025 19:30

I’m really sorry this happened to you OP, and that your manager is so shit.

Your manager could have started by showing this had their full attention then checking in on how you feel about it and assuring you it’s not ok, but up to you. You wouldn’t materially be in a different place but you’d probably feel less crappy and marginalised by it all.

They sound like dicks, chatting like that on a live work call is hugely inappropriate and this might not be the last time they wade into bother if they’re that lax.

BethDuttonBaby · 11/04/2025 19:27

SleepQuest33 · 11/04/2025 19:22

Ohhh 👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻you must be so proud! Well done. 😎🤓

She should.

Better to be proud of that than the misogynistic wankers on this thread.

SleepQuest33 · 11/04/2025 19:22

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:02

Try reading comprehension… I said: they are as often ‘couriers with highly confidential documents needing signatures’ as they are ‘gaming merch for my teens’.

🤦🏽‍♀️

oh and he is not a ‘divisional head’ he’s a GLOBAL head and director on the board of the parent company AND the 30+ subsidiaries…

and he absolutely steps away from on-line meetings to answer the door and would also call the two chaps who disrespected the OP into his office to have a conversation. He and his company take no stock with people displaying misogynistic, racist, or homophobic behaviours on company Teams calls.

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Ohhh 👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻you must be so proud! Well done. 😎🤓

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 11/04/2025 19:17

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:09

Ps I’m killing time on MN, drinking G&T in the back garden whilst DH plays with the BBQ - not being a derogatory troll towards the OP and those supporting her against shocking misogyny which clearly distressed her.

I have already given my opinion on the OPs situation. You may not think that snobbery is a damaging as misogyny, but I do.

BethDuttonBaby · 11/04/2025 19:16

Bloody hell your manager is as bad as the arseholes on the meeting

and I see that there are also a lot of arseholes on this thread.

pathetic misogynists one and all

NellieJean · 11/04/2025 19:15

INeedAnotherName · 10/04/2025 17:42

I had a shitty nights sleep with my DD and to be honest wasn’t 100% with it on the call, I was a bit slow on articulating myself a couple of times and muddled through one answer in particular.

My doorbell went about 5 minutes from the end for a delivery I was expecting, I said I was just going to get it

If you report them then expect yourself to be hauled over the coals for your own lack of professionalism. You really want to open that can of worms?

So not just me who thinks when you are working and being paid you should be on top of things. This situation wouldn’t have happened in an office. Your colleagues remarks were unkind and unprofessional but as kids say in the playground “you started it”.

Pottedpalm · 11/04/2025 19:15

Skandar · 11/04/2025 18:29

So when in an office, you never stop work to make coffee or have lunch? Or use your lunch break to go for a walk? Do you never stop and have a non-work related conversation with a colleague? If so, what an awful work place you have!
At my work, where we are all remote, it is completely standard for people to answer doors for a few seconds. Or to use their lunch breaks to take the dog for a walk.

Now tou are being silly! The clue is in the words ‘lunch break’. What someone does then is up to them, during working hours/meetings, not so much.

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 11/04/2025 19:14

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:02

Try reading comprehension… I said: they are as often ‘couriers with highly confidential documents needing signatures’ as they are ‘gaming merch for my teens’.

🤦🏽‍♀️

oh and he is not a ‘divisional head’ he’s a GLOBAL head and director on the board of the parent company AND the 30+ subsidiaries…

and he absolutely steps away from on-line meetings to answer the door and would also call the two chaps who disrespected the OP into his office to have a conversation. He and his company take no stock with people displaying misogynistic, racist, or homophobic behaviours on company Teams calls.

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That'll be the dyslexia. My apologies for laughing at the comment, I completely misread that.

It doesn't distract from your attempts at credibility by association or your snobbery about your millionaire husband's divisional role in a FTSE 100 business. Come back when the Analysts are positive about his appointment. I will still only be mildly interested if those shares are part of my portfolio.

Khayker · 11/04/2025 19:09

Let it go. Silly people making silly remarks but you did say you were not at your best so first impressions and all that. They don't have the right to voice these opinions on a call. Very unprofessional of them so if you want to discuss it with someone, it should be them. I would personally go that route and do it in a nice way, although clearly these two aren't very nice which puts you on higher ground. Perhaps I'm more thick skinned than most, comes from working with a bunch of psychos for years.

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:09

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 11/04/2025 18:56

You said they were for your teens.

As for your DH being a DIVISIONAL Director of a FTSE 100 business and being a millionaire. In the words of Shania "that don't impress me much". I bet the Analysts were as interested in his appointment as I am.

he’s a millionaire and you’re typing on Mumsnet?

That's right only paupers post on MN don't they? What you you doing on MN?

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Ps I’m killing time on MN, drinking G&T in the back garden whilst DH plays with the BBQ - not being a derogatory troll towards the OP and those supporting her against shocking misogyny which clearly distressed her.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 11/04/2025 19:07

How awful for you. Let them both know that you over heard them saying what they said and wanted to warn them to be careful as anyone else may have reported them. Is there any way they could have been talking about someone other than you?

You know you were feeling tired and below par so don’t believe those comments. Remember the times st work when you’ve been awesome! They sound immature & lacking self esteem.

x

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 19:02

Try reading comprehension… I said: they are as often ‘couriers with highly confidential documents needing signatures’ as they are ‘gaming merch for my teens’.

🤦🏽‍♀️

oh and he is not a ‘divisional head’ he’s a GLOBAL head and director on the board of the parent company AND the 30+ subsidiaries…

and he absolutely steps away from on-line meetings to answer the door and would also call the two chaps who disrespected the OP into his office to have a conversation. He and his company take no stock with people displaying misogynistic, racist, or homophobic behaviours on company Teams calls.

Jgilg · 11/04/2025 19:00

Your manager's attitude seems to have shaped the way you conduct yourself, and they conduct themselves, at work. You're all as bad as each other. At least you're not in trouble for being unprepared and unprofessional?

Trolleysaregoodforemployment · 11/04/2025 18:56

CautiousLurker01 · 11/04/2025 18:27

My DH works for a FTSE 100 company and is director of more than of 30of its subsidiaries- many countries (China etc) require manually and not digitally signed and witnessed physical documents. Odd you find this hysterical. But then maybe that’s why he’s a millionaire and you’re typing on Mumsnet?

You said they were for your teens.

As for your DH being a DIVISIONAL Director of a FTSE 100 business and being a millionaire. In the words of Shania "that don't impress me much". I bet the Analysts were as interested in his appointment as I am.

he’s a millionaire and you’re typing on Mumsnet?

That's right only paupers post on MN don't they? What you you doing on MN?

Piscesmom22 · 11/04/2025 18:46

I would 100% complain !! Regardless of if they said it to you or about you was highly inappropriate, lacked professionalism and had nothing at all to do with the business! I would go to HR and explain you didn’t have much opportunity to speak. I would also comment that the lack of recording of meetings has probably facilitated allowing them to behave like masonagistic bastards…. And is this really how they want the company represented??!! It would be interesting to know if they have been picked up about this before 🤔
I hope your self confidence picks back up, clearly from the eloquence of your post, you’re professional, beautiful and intelligent ( maybe they are just envious !! 🤣 😂 )

Ithappenedtome1 · 11/04/2025 18:35

I had this happen to me with a colleague slagging me off on a training course. I have known her 20 years and thought she was lovely.

I reported to her line manager and the trainer also reported her. She ended up emailing a grovelling apology. I accepted the apology, but told her what I thought of her actions and to never speak to me again.

Some people are spiteful.

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