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Colleagues spoke about me on Teams call thinking I wasn’t there - do I say anything

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AndreaGreen · 10/04/2025 16:30

I had a video call with two colleagues earlier, from a different area of the business and who I hadn’t met before. They were from the same team so knew each other, and our call was to discuss a project coming up involving the department I’m in.

I had a shitty nights sleep with my DD and to be honest wasn’t 100% with it on the call, I was a bit slow on articulating myself a couple of times and muddled through one answer in particular.

My doorbell went about 5 minutes from the end for a delivery I was expecting, I said I was just going to get it and muted myself/turned camera off as I would usually. As I got up my DH (on his lunch break) shouted up that he’d answer it.

I went to sit back down and obviously the two colleagues were still on the screen. I heard one of them mutter something about the call being hard work. The other one then made a comment about my appearance, which was basically that ‘it’s a good job she’s a looker as I don’t think any man would be with her for her brains’ and the other one laughed. They were then quiet clearly waiting for me to return.

I felt upset at this point so gave it a minute and typed in the chat that something had come up and I couldn’t rejoin, and that any other questions they could put in the chat to me.

I cried my eyes out afterwards, I feel stressed enough as it is and this has really hit my confidence. DH thinks I should report them but the call wasn’t recorded and it would be my word against theirs.

Do you think I’m overreacting or would you look to report this?

OP posts:
MightAsWellBeGretel · 10/04/2025 18:59

That's terrible and you should definitely report.

However, going off to take a delivery on a scheduled call isn't a good look an is hardly going to make a good impression. If your DH was there on his lunchbreak, why would you even consider getting up to answer the door to a delivery?

That doesn't negate the fact that their comments were chauvinistic.

IDontHateRainbows · 10/04/2025 18:58

Whatafustercluck · 10/04/2025 18:40

So I translate this as "men are allowed to have off days, but women are not - therefore women must never, ever make a mistake at work because all women will be judged by it if they do". What a load of shit. Maybe let's turn that argument on its head and stop holding women to impossibly high standards just so they're not judged to be brainless bimbos by the people who actually need educating about how to behave in the workplace. Jesus wept. We're women, humans, not robots. Just like men in fact.

Edited

Why are you making this a man/ woman thing?
Totally unnecessary.

JorgyPorgy · 10/04/2025 18:58

if you’re not going to report id try to get hold of the transcript for your own records in case you ever need it . Its sexism

EmotionallyWeird · 10/04/2025 18:58

Personally I probably wouldn't take it further, just because there's no proof and unfortunately we've probably all had a moan about a colleague at some point. I like the idea of letting them know what you heard in private, as long as you think you can handle any fallout from it without becoming visibly emotional, which might make people like them value you even less.

For some reason I assumed they were female when I read the OP. I'm not saying all women are that bitchy, but it sounded like something a particularly bitchy woman might say. Now I know they are male, it's just possible you could get a complaint about sexism to stick, but I'd be wary of the lack of proof and also the fact that they will probably say you behaved unprofessionally during the call. I don't think you behaved very unprofessionally - we all make mistakes or have off days - but they will probably mention it if they're trying to cover their backs, which is why I think it would probably be better to let this one go.

Baninarama · 10/04/2025 18:55

Blinkyy · 10/04/2025 18:46

Gosh things have changed since I worked.Colleagues bitching about someone else. Not nice but move on.

Thankfully times have indeed moved on and nobody has to suffer being bullied or bitched about as it's completely unprofessional. If they'd have done this in front of a client and lost business they'd be in serious trouble. I would email them and let them know this - there are some great posts at the start of the thread that can be used. I run a business and if anyone came to me saying they'd been treated like the OP (and in such a careless way - the men are clearly absolute idiots) then I'd be furious with them.

IDontHateRainbows · 10/04/2025 18:55

I'd let them know you know, but wouldn't necessarily take it further.

IdaGlossop · 10/04/2025 18:53

Here's a video you could send them, OP, 'After your sexist comment about me not being employed for my brains, here's a video to help you understand what sexism feels like.'

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https://youtu.be/JIjnD2bG0gU?feature=shared

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/04/2025 18:51

I'm so glad I've never worked with some of the moaning about OP taking in a parcel! Luckily my colleagues were human and understand these things happen.

LucastaNoir · 10/04/2025 18:49

I think there’s a difference here.

The first comment ‘god, this call is hard work’ I would be pissed off with/upset by but I get people say things sometimes. I’d probably let them know I’d heard and was annoyed.

The second comment is foul, misogynistic, and should not be happening in any place of work. I’m assuming these were two men OP? I would one hundred per cent take this further, what form that takes would depend on the set up at my work place and the relationship with my bosses. I’m gobsmacked by any poster who suggests ‘take the compliment to your looks’ - that is not what this is.

I’m sorry you had to hear this shite OP.

Richiewoo · 10/04/2025 18:48

They're horrible and unprofessional. It also sounds like you were unprofessional.

Dreamysleepynightysnoozeysnooze · 10/04/2025 18:47

@Biffbaff

Not everybody reacts in the same way, especially to something very unexpected and even more so when experiencing sleep deprivation.

You've never been caught off guard and been a bit too shocked to say something in the moment?

Blinkyy · 10/04/2025 18:46

Gosh things have changed since I worked.Colleagues bitching about someone else. Not nice but move on.

Tauranga · 10/04/2025 18:45

Shirkingly · 10/04/2025 16:52

I don’t think I’d give it another thought. You say yourself you were exhausted and not at your best, and that you were slow to respond and muddled through one response in particular. You probably came across as dim. Not your fault, obviously, but they’re not to know that you’re not usually like that, and to be dreading dealing with you on this project. I’d take the compliment to your looks, dismiss the slight bitchiness, and be on your game next time you meet. I would probably start by saying ‘Apologies for being not at my best on our last meeting. I’d had no sleep. Let me address x again as a quick recap before we move on.’

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This is how to deal with it.
Anything more including reporting to HR just makes me so despairing.
Grow a backbone and also grow some honesty.
You came accross as slow and unsure. They made a comment referring to thus. You admit you were muddles, slow and unsure. They agreed!
Commenting on your looks is a shame but it was hardly x rated.
Everyone who would report probably reported folk walking on the beach in covid.

Whatafustercluck · 10/04/2025 18:40

Brefugee · 10/04/2025 18:33

same.
Also, OP, kindly - you have to be on top of your game, bad night or not. All women are judged on how women perform in the workplace. It is shit, but that is how it is. So please try to be on top of your game all the time.

Also: pretty unprofessional, DH there or not, to end a work call early to take a delivery.

So. You may want to tell them you heard them - only you know if it will affect your working relationship with these men. IMO you just need to get on with your job, at 100% and let it go.

So I translate this as "men are allowed to have off days, but women are not - therefore women must never, ever make a mistake at work because all women will be judged by it if they do". What a load of shit. Maybe let's turn that argument on its head and stop holding women to impossibly high standards just so they're not judged to be brainless bimbos by the people who actually need educating about how to behave in the workplace. Jesus wept. We're women, humans, not robots. Just like men in fact.

IPM · 10/04/2025 18:39

AliBaliBee1234 · 10/04/2025 18:36

people do this all the time

And does that make it any less unprofessional?

TiredEyesToday · 10/04/2025 18:39

The thing about the call being hard work is hurtful, but I wouldn’t report that- particularly not if I could see that I wasn’t as “on it” as I should be, and then ducked out of a call to take in a parcel.

The rest is a different kettle of fish and I would 100% report that to HR - entirely unacceptable. But be aware you’ll need to give the context for why you stepped away from the call. Depending on the kind of business you work in, that could cause its own problems. It wouldn’t in mine, but we’re not super corporate.

AliBaliBee1234 · 10/04/2025 18:36

IPM · 10/04/2025 18:35

They were nasty and out of order.

Had they called you unprofessional, you couldn't have really argued, especially as you left a meeting to take in a parcel 🙄

But what they said was personal and nasty.

people do this all the time

AliBaliBee1234 · 10/04/2025 18:36

I would make it known you heard and watch them learn a hard lesson

IPM · 10/04/2025 18:35

They were nasty and out of order.

Had they called you unprofessional, you couldn't have really argued, especially as you left a meeting to take in a parcel 🙄

But what they said was personal and nasty.

Potsofpetals · 10/04/2025 18:34

I’d send a message to the pair.

Hi Knobheads

Hope you understood the points I made throughout the call. Sorry I wasn’t feeling my best today and had to end the call early.

Good job I’m a looker hey or who knows where I’d be.

Have a lovely Friday!!

Then I’d report them to HR

Brefugee · 10/04/2025 18:33

Meanttobeworking · 10/04/2025 17:10

Tbh I would have just turned my mike back on and told them I heard them and left it at that.

same.
Also, OP, kindly - you have to be on top of your game, bad night or not. All women are judged on how women perform in the workplace. It is shit, but that is how it is. So please try to be on top of your game all the time.

Also: pretty unprofessional, DH there or not, to end a work call early to take a delivery.

So. You may want to tell them you heard them - only you know if it will affect your working relationship with these men. IMO you just need to get on with your job, at 100% and let it go.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 10/04/2025 18:30

Shirkingly · 10/04/2025 16:52

I don’t think I’d give it another thought. You say yourself you were exhausted and not at your best, and that you were slow to respond and muddled through one response in particular. You probably came across as dim. Not your fault, obviously, but they’re not to know that you’re not usually like that, and to be dreading dealing with you on this project. I’d take the compliment to your looks, dismiss the slight bitchiness, and be on your game next time you meet. I would probably start by saying ‘Apologies for being not at my best on our last meeting. I’d had no sleep. Let me address x again as a quick recap before we move on.’

Edited

That would be apologising to two snarky bees wouldn't it? I don't disagree with contacting them again with some sort of explanation or comment but no apologies, these two don't deserve it

Sevenamcoffee · 10/04/2025 18:29

Some very odd responses on here from people I would assume don’t actually work in workplaces but of course it is aibu. This absolutely is potentially a disciplinary matter. They would probably just deny it and without further evidence that would be that. But I would be speaking to my own line manager about it in the first instance. I’d want to at least send a shot across the bow that this isn’t acceptable or professional behaviour.

Whatafustercluck · 10/04/2025 18:29

Biffbaff · 10/04/2025 18:26

Why didn't you let them know you heard? You could have just said "excuse me?" or similar. It was a bit weak of you to just run off and cry.

"Weak"? Sleep deprivation is used as a torture method for a reason.

researchers3 · 10/04/2025 18:28

Shirkingly · 10/04/2025 16:52

I don’t think I’d give it another thought. You say yourself you were exhausted and not at your best, and that you were slow to respond and muddled through one response in particular. You probably came across as dim. Not your fault, obviously, but they’re not to know that you’re not usually like that, and to be dreading dealing with you on this project. I’d take the compliment to your looks, dismiss the slight bitchiness, and be on your game next time you meet. I would probably start by saying ‘Apologies for being not at my best on our last meeting. I’d had no sleep. Let me address x again as a quick recap before we move on.’

Edited

They were rude, unprofessional and sexist and you still think the op should apologise?

Wow.