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To tell child not to be in any photos without her sister

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SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:17

I have issues with my in-laws excluding my eldest daughter who is my husband’s stepdaughter from photographs. This upsets my eldest.

BiL has two sets of children with the elder ones in their twenties, I saw FiL talking to one of them and the nephew then chatted to the elder siblings and cousins and they then took turns to take photos. When my eldest took the photos instructions were given to her and it is ALWAYS these photos that appear at in-laws so pictures of bio grandchildren without my daughter.

On Easter Saturday can I instruct my five year old not to stand in any photos with her cousins without her sister?

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Praying4Peace · 10/04/2025 13:17

Gettingbysomehow · 10/04/2025 12:40

Absolutely awful, I was excluded from holidays, photos, gifts everything being the daughter from another man who I've never even met.

I stopped visiting altogether when I grew up as it broke my heart to see pictures of the 4 of them all over the house and none of me.
Being excluded really hurts and the child certainly does notice everything.
You need to tell them if they don't include your daughter then your children don't see them at all. That's your responsibility as the adult.

Spot on, thank you for sharing

HelpMeUnpickThis · 10/04/2025 13:16

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 13:13

BiL’s children refer to themselves as half-siblings and this annoys me but obviously not my business but it grates.

About six months after we had been at a family wedding which D H had to ask for an invitation for my eldest ( which they gave). I was hurt by something and he told me about a conversation he had had with his sister the day after the wedding where he had told her how awkward things were sometimes and his sister (not a stealth boast, had said something really nice about me) but had asked whether my eldest should be the same as her daughter to my in-laws. There is no way they will ever treat her like a granddaughter.

I don’t ever expect them to but I could never have predicted little things like photos (or fucking ISAs)!

@SpanishFork

Are you expecting the grandparents to contribute to an ISA for your daughter when she is not their bio grandchild?

If yes, I think that is spectacularly unrealistic.

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 13:13

BiL’s children refer to themselves as half-siblings and this annoys me but obviously not my business but it grates.

About six months after we had been at a family wedding which D H had to ask for an invitation for my eldest ( which they gave). I was hurt by something and he told me about a conversation he had had with his sister the day after the wedding where he had told her how awkward things were sometimes and his sister (not a stealth boast, had said something really nice about me) but had asked whether my eldest should be the same as her daughter to my in-laws. There is no way they will ever treat her like a granddaughter.

I don’t ever expect them to but I could never have predicted little things like photos (or fucking ISAs)!

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UrsulasHerbBag · 10/04/2025 13:12

They may not realise how hurtful their behaviour is (they should but we are not all built the same) so as others have said maybe speak to your in laws about ways they can be more inclusive. I would tell them your eldest is incredibly hurt because they love their step family and want to be part of it. Ultimately they will do as they please and you will need to manage this and your child’s feelings with honesty. Poor kid it’s so bloody sad.

Thehop · 10/04/2025 13:11

Why wouldn't they want a picture with just their grandchildren in? I don't see a problem.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 13:11

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 13:02

I wasn’t expecting my youngest to confront her adult male ‘sitting for the Bar’ cousin simply just to stay with her sister.

There will be at least 18 people there in a tiered garden, I can’t follow them without looking weird.

Gently, OP, this is batshit behaviour.

You and your husband need to use your words.

Scout2016 · 10/04/2025 13:11

Can you phrase as GC and step GC will notice there's no photos of them together in your house and they'll wonder why as they are sisters.
GC may be only 5 now but she'll notice when older surely, especially given it's already upsetting her sister.

Would your eldest be upset for them to know she has noticed and is hurt? They might think she hasn't noticed or doesn't care and need telling, but I can see if she's confided in you she might not want you to tell them.

SaladSandwichesForTea · 10/04/2025 13:11

If your husband won't address it, chuck a grenade into the situation amd force it to a head.

Take a picture of your girls together, in a frame, to the inlaws and pretend it's a lovely gift. Get the 5yo to hand it over and suggest it would look lovely next to the others.

Their move.

SnoozingFox · 10/04/2025 13:08

Yet another story of adults choosing to have children in multiple relationships and expect all the other adults to play along with their fairytale happy "blended family".

If the inlaws treat the older child fairly and kindly on the whole, there is nothing wrong with them wanting to have a photo of their grandchildren. It is not their fault (and not yours) that the older child's paternal grandparents are a bit shit, but it is really unfair to expect them to step in and compensate for that shitness and pretend that the relationship they have with your older child is the same as with the younger one.

Owlteapot · 10/04/2025 13:08

I can't imagine expecting my in laws to put photos of my dc up. They include them on the day when we see them and get a small gift a Christmas when all together and that is more than enough

CurlewKate · 10/04/2025 13:06

Absolutely not. So inappropriate to ask this of a 5 year old!

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 13:02

I wasn’t expecting my youngest to confront her adult male ‘sitting for the Bar’ cousin simply just to stay with her sister.

There will be at least 18 people there in a tiered garden, I can’t follow them without looking weird.

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GRex · 10/04/2025 12:59

Adults need to deal with this by having a conversation. Stop involving the children.

I can't imagine leaving out a child, though if you're new to the family it can be a bit tricky. In our family nobody ever got left out, so we have several photos of all us cousins with one or two random kids inserted in on different years who were dating mum's cousin's string of boyfriends. When we show the photos to our kids it's like "I think that one's Tim? No, Paul? Well it was one of Auntie X's friends' children... Anyway, look at uncle John's hair!"

user1492757084 · 10/04/2025 12:58

Give a few nice frames to inlaws as gifts.
Include a photo of both your children in one.
Ask that they use another to display one of the photos they casually take - but one which includes your oldest too.

Explain that you are assisting them to have a more balanced display of photos in their home due to respecting your older child's feelings. You can't stop them framing their own grandchildren in some shots and displaying those as well.

They will not have meant to be hurtful.

MargaretThursday · 10/04/2025 12:58

Tell her she obviously takes the best photos which is why they choose them.

It sounds like actually they're doing their best to include her when they do want pictures of their grandchildren.
You say the children all take photos so it's not like they're saying "you stay out of it". They've found a way that they thought was not obvious.
Quietly tell them that she has noticed -assuming that it's her noticing and not you. Maybe ask them to send you one of the ones with both in.

But it isn't unreasonable for them to want some photos of just their grandchildren. If you split up then they'll never see her again.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 12:57

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:52

My DH is a wonderful man and you would never know he wasn’t her dad.

The in-laws aren’t cruel per se and would probably say that they engineer this deliberately in order NOT to upset her.

My eldest’s dad left us when she was a baby and his mother did continue to see her for a lit bit but it fizzled out.

I don’t expect them to treat her the same as their grandchildren but they have an obsession with photos. I just want them to be nice to her.

Can he explain to them that she understands that the "real" photos that go on display are the ones they get her to take so she's not in them, and that they might think they're being subtle when they treat her differently, but she does notice and it upsets her? That it would be nice if they could include her in the proper photos that they display in their home so she feels included?

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 10/04/2025 12:53

You can't put that on a five year old.

Mum says I'm not allowed to be in any photos without my sister.

I'm not sure that would go down well and it's unfair on your children.

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:52

My DH is a wonderful man and you would never know he wasn’t her dad.

The in-laws aren’t cruel per se and would probably say that they engineer this deliberately in order NOT to upset her.

My eldest’s dad left us when she was a baby and his mother did continue to see her for a lit bit but it fizzled out.

I don’t expect them to treat her the same as their grandchildren but they have an obsession with photos. I just want them to be nice to her.

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Pigsears · 10/04/2025 12:51

I think it depends on your DD. IE how old she is, how long she has been part of their lives, whether she has active grandparents on dad's side etc

Maybe they feel like they would be overstepping to take photos?

SinkToTheBottomWithYou · 10/04/2025 12:51

So they are not excluding her from the group pictures, just choosing to display in their house pics with all their GC and not their son’s wife’s child? Fair enough! Assuming you have access to the group pics where she is and could display these in your house?
How old is your eldest / how long has she known your ILs for?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/04/2025 12:50

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:47

Gettingbysomehow
You need to tell them if they don't include your daughter then your children don't see them at all. That's your responsibility as the adult.

My husband would never run with this and what would I say to my youngest child about why I don’t allow her to be with her family?

Is your husband willing to speak to his parents and explain how hurt you and your daughter feel about her being treated differently?

XWKD · 10/04/2025 12:50

It's not nice to exclude a child. It should ever be done in a hurtful way. At the same time, it's not up to your child.

You need to talk to the adults.

Ronsealit · 10/04/2025 12:48

Does your eldest see her own grandparents? I’m from a step family and didn’t see my step siblings’ grandparents as my own, wouldn’t expect to appear in family photos etc and while they always included me and my biological brother and made gestures towards us, we weren’t treated the same as in time spent, value of birthday and Christmas presents which we fully understood because they weren’t our grandparents, we had our own who were similar in their treatment of our ss, kind and inclusive but definitely not the same.

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:47

Gettingbysomehow
You need to tell them if they don't include your daughter then your children don't see them at all. That's your responsibility as the adult.

My husband would never run with this and what would I say to my youngest child about why I don’t allow her to be with her family?

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StScholastica · 10/04/2025 12:47

Tbrh · 10/04/2025 12:20

I think you're being unfair. Of course the grandparents might want pictures with their grandchild. You are being ridiculous.

What a horrible attitude. Why would anyone exclude a child. A stepchild is still a grandchild.

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