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To tell child not to be in any photos without her sister

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SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:17

I have issues with my in-laws excluding my eldest daughter who is my husband’s stepdaughter from photographs. This upsets my eldest.

BiL has two sets of children with the elder ones in their twenties, I saw FiL talking to one of them and the nephew then chatted to the elder siblings and cousins and they then took turns to take photos. When my eldest took the photos instructions were given to her and it is ALWAYS these photos that appear at in-laws so pictures of bio grandchildren without my daughter.

On Easter Saturday can I instruct my five year old not to stand in any photos with her cousins without her sister?

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 11/04/2025 23:01

The other thing is eldest DD could choose to build relations with her dad's side when older.
If she inherits from her dad or partenal GPs, would OP expect them to leave something for her youngest too?

DurinsBane · 11/04/2025 22:56

howshouldibehave · 11/04/2025 19:20

Also, more importantly probably, the OP has already said her eldest does not see her biological dad, and her DH sees her as his daughter. So if they split up, she will still be the Grandparents sons daughter!

I doubt that very much. If they have split up, it's highly likely that the OP would never see these grandparents and the younger daughter would see them when she is with her dad. The older daughter probably wouldn't go to the step dad's house.

Highly likely? I would hope not, I would hope he would still treat her as his daughter, as he currently is! Yes some would stop contact, but I hope most people wouldn’t just dump their daughter (as it seems she is his daughter in all ways apart from biological)

DurinsBane · 11/04/2025 22:54

notatinydancer · 11/04/2025 19:10

She won’t though. He’s not her dad even if he acts like he is , she’s not their grandchild.

I’m sure she would, if he is her dad in all but biology, I’m sure he wouldn’t just dump her if he split up with her mum!

LittleCharlotte · 11/04/2025 22:36

Fedupmumofadultsons · 11/04/2025 22:35

Really honestly you think its ok to be like this to a small child .thank goodness this is not our view my eldest grandchild is much adored and loved and she knows it .blood is nothing to do with it .

I'm so glad to read this. I was honestly despairing of people.

Fedupmumofadultsons · 11/04/2025 22:35

Emoleno · 10/04/2025 12:37

Your eldest isn't their's. There's no reason why they should want someone else's child on their family photo.

Just because you want it, doesn't make it so.

Really honestly you think its ok to be like this to a small child .thank goodness this is not our view my eldest grandchild is much adored and loved and she knows it .blood is nothing to do with it .

qandatime · 11/04/2025 22:28

Mama2many73 · 11/04/2025 22:20

I think some families have weird rules over 'blood' . My ds has NO contact with any of his birth dad's family, at all, ever, their decision.

My now DH has been an amazing dad to him, his family have totally accepted him as grandson/nephew. He now has a stepdaughter who is seen as our GC, and GGD and niece. Our extended family has more blends than a tea merchant! All accepted and all loved. The thought of excluding a known child , for whatever reason, does not sit well with me!

I agree, it’s a shame more people can’t think this way.

Mama2many73 · 11/04/2025 22:20

I think some families have weird rules over 'blood' . My ds has NO contact with any of his birth dad's family, at all, ever, their decision.

My now DH has been an amazing dad to him, his family have totally accepted him as grandson/nephew. He now has a stepdaughter who is seen as our GC, and GGD and niece. Our extended family has more blends than a tea merchant! All accepted and all loved. The thought of excluding a known child , for whatever reason, does not sit well with me!

Munnygirl · 11/04/2025 22:14

Curlycurio · 11/04/2025 21:51

You don't think telling a 5 year old to not allow anyone to take any photos of her without her sister is petty? That's not going to help her daughter at all.

It seems to me that she knows this wasn’t the way to go reading her subsequent posts but there seems to be a piling on from from so many women who seem to relish that this poor child isn’t blood family. it’s unbelievable

CaptainFuture · 11/04/2025 22:07

InterIgnis · 11/04/2025 20:52

Why wouldn’t they get that? OP’s youngest may very well have zero problem with it. I’d say that’s more probable tbh, as for her this is normal. Her sister doesn’t have the same paternal grandparents as her, so why would anyone behave differently?

There’s been plenty of threads on here where younger children have ended up resenting their parent, and older half sibling(s), for having that expectation of them, and/or for denying them relationships with their own family members.

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This. It seems to be all about.... oh how does elder daughter feel?..... how is this affecting her? Elder daughter isn't being celebrated like we want.. so NO! Younger doesn't get to see her family, her wants and family ties aren't important if they dont centre her sister!! Have previously queried if people who think it's dreadful the eldest daughter isn't centred... do they agree that she shouldn't get to do anything fun with out her younger sister being involved and centred?

Curlycurio · 11/04/2025 21:51

Munnygirl · 11/04/2025 21:49

It’s not petty to the OP or her daughter.

You don't think telling a 5 year old to not allow anyone to take any photos of her without her sister is petty? That's not going to help her daughter at all.

Munnygirl · 11/04/2025 21:49

Curlycurio · 11/04/2025 21:42

This isn't what's happening though. You're talking about the grandparents just showing a little bit of kindness, how have they not done that? It sounds like they DO include all kids that are there at the time, e.g. everyone gets Easter eggs if spending easter together.

There is no reason at all for adults to make this a massive issue that impacts the children in any way.

Edited to add: there shouldn't be any 'sides' to take here. The grandparents aren't taking 'sides', it's petty stuff like OP is suggesting that will make this into a real issue.

Edited

It’s not petty to the OP or her daughter.

Curlycurio · 11/04/2025 21:49

@Feelinglost10 they may also not even realise she would mind. To be honest, for all we know they might be happy to put a photo of DD up at home if they knew this was really upsetting her. But as I've said quite a bit earlier I don't think that will solve the deeper feelings DD is dealing with.

Feelinglost10 · 11/04/2025 21:45

SpanishFork · 10/04/2025 12:17

I have issues with my in-laws excluding my eldest daughter who is my husband’s stepdaughter from photographs. This upsets my eldest.

BiL has two sets of children with the elder ones in their twenties, I saw FiL talking to one of them and the nephew then chatted to the elder siblings and cousins and they then took turns to take photos. When my eldest took the photos instructions were given to her and it is ALWAYS these photos that appear at in-laws so pictures of bio grandchildren without my daughter.

On Easter Saturday can I instruct my five year old not to stand in any photos with her cousins without her sister?

Without sounding awful it’s not their direct relation so they have every right to not want her in their family photos? I know that’s obviously not nice for you or your child but at the same time they may just genuinely want only their relatives on photos

JayJayj · 11/04/2025 21:43

I remember your other post.

I think it’s awful that they don’t include your oldest daughter. How long have you and your husband been together? If the youngest is 5 then it’s at least 6 years which means eldest was 3/4. I just find it very cold from the in-laws.

Curlycurio · 11/04/2025 21:42

qandatime · 11/04/2025 21:03

Because it will affect her relationship with her grandparents. Op will get to the point where she won’t want to take her older daughter to there house any longer. Especially on occasions like Christmas where it would be really obvious that she’s not included as family. This will result in the younger sibling asking (I’m just using a made up scenario here) why she isn’t going to her grandparents at Christmas or why is she going with just her dad and not her mum and sister.. When she grows up and realises that it could all have been avoided by just a little bit of kindness to her sister she then
she May very well question weather she can be bothered with them. Of course she could side with them and not her mum and sister but that seems less likely.

This isn't what's happening though. You're talking about the grandparents just showing a little bit of kindness, how have they not done that? It sounds like they DO include all kids that are there at the time, e.g. everyone gets Easter eggs if spending easter together.

There is no reason at all for adults to make this a massive issue that impacts the children in any way.

Edited to add: there shouldn't be any 'sides' to take here. The grandparents aren't taking 'sides', it's petty stuff like OP is suggesting that will make this into a real issue.

ElfAndSafetyBored · 11/04/2025 21:32

Springbirds · 11/04/2025 12:00

Sure, that will help. And then she’d be the only child not to have a turn taking photos

And that would bother her because????

caringcarer · 11/04/2025 21:13

Quite honestly the grandparents don't sound very nice if they'd upset a small child and exclude them. I'd probably not be taking any of the sisters to visit them until they stopped being mean to one DC. I was very lucky my in-laws welcomed my 2 DS's with open arms. They always treated them equally to their biological DGC. My DS's are adults now and they regularly go to visit their Nan. At over 80 she gets lots of visitors from DGC and she deserves this because she's always been such a loving Nan to them all. I wish your in-laws were this lovely to your little girl OP. It's so sad that they exclude her.

UndermyShoeJoe · 11/04/2025 21:10

Actually reading posts by other mums who had restricted or cut contact for the sake of older half siblings feelings 9/10 the younger sibling is pissed at the parent for what they feel is them keeping them from their family by favouring their sibling over them and trying to make their family be the other child’s family.

There has been a few long threads on here from mums all shocked that their adult children as mad as hell with them and their husbands fully backing HIS children.

outerspacepotato · 11/04/2025 21:10

qandatime · 11/04/2025 20:24

All she wants is for her daughter to not have it rubbed in her face.. All of this because they can’t be kind people and put her in a photo frame with her sister.

I don't believe that. If that was her goal, she wouldn't be instigating and shit stirring using a 5 year old child.

OP was going to coach her 5 year old to make a scene over pictures. That's a way to poison the family well for her 5 year old, not to make her eldest feel included.

That's low.

If her ultimate goal was inclusion, she would have married a man whose family included eldest as a part of their larger family.

InterIgnis · 11/04/2025 21:10

qandatime · 11/04/2025 21:03

Because it will affect her relationship with her grandparents. Op will get to the point where she won’t want to take her older daughter to there house any longer. Especially on occasions like Christmas where it would be really obvious that she’s not included as family. This will result in the younger sibling asking (I’m just using a made up scenario here) why she isn’t going to her grandparents at Christmas or why is she going with just her dad and not her mum and sister.. When she grows up and realises that it could all have been avoided by just a little bit of kindness to her sister she then
she May very well question weather she can be bothered with them. Of course she could side with them and not her mum and sister but that seems less likely.

Or she’ll blame her mother for having, as she sees it, unrealistic and unfair expectations of her family. Or maybe she’ll still have no problem with it and will be fine keeping the two camps separate.

She’s growing up in a family where this type of stepfamily dynamic is completely normal, as evidenced by her own cousins and step cousins. It does not automatically follow that her mother’s problem will become hers, and nor should anyone expect it to.

qandatime · 11/04/2025 21:03

InterIgnis · 11/04/2025 20:52

Why wouldn’t they get that? OP’s youngest may very well have zero problem with it. I’d say that’s more probable tbh, as for her this is normal. Her sister doesn’t have the same paternal grandparents as her, so why would anyone behave differently?

There’s been plenty of threads on here where younger children have ended up resenting their parent, and older half sibling(s), for having that expectation of them, and/or for denying them relationships with their own family members.

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Because it will affect her relationship with her grandparents. Op will get to the point where she won’t want to take her older daughter to there house any longer. Especially on occasions like Christmas where it would be really obvious that she’s not included as family. This will result in the younger sibling asking (I’m just using a made up scenario here) why she isn’t going to her grandparents at Christmas or why is she going with just her dad and not her mum and sister.. When she grows up and realises that it could all have been avoided by just a little bit of kindness to her sister she then
she May very well question weather she can be bothered with them. Of course she could side with them and not her mum and sister but that seems less likely.

MixedBananas · 11/04/2025 21:02

Speak up be an adult.

Namechangetry · 11/04/2025 21:01

Gettingbysomehow · 11/04/2025 18:13

They are half sisters so therefore they are family and anyone who doesn't treat them as such is scum.

No one is denying the DDs are half sisters though (though OP and her DD don't like the term I believe?), or that they are each others family. But older DD isn't these people's blood family and these people cannot be forced to take older DD as their grandchild.

You might think they're wrong not to do it, but it doesn't make them 'scum'. Some people make a lot of blood relationships. I have adopted and step DC in my family and all are loved and treated equally, but not all families are the same.

It is older DDs father's family who have let her down, and younger DDs father's family can't be forced to make up for that. I bet OP would feel and behave much differently about these situations, if older DD had an extended family from her father's side like younger DD has.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 11/04/2025 20:56

LittleCharlotte · 11/04/2025 11:21

Maybe not many people you know do, but I don't know of a single family in this situation who treat the step children any differently. If I did, we'd no longer be friends. This attitude is absolutely disgusting.

I don't know any, but if I had a child I'd prepare them for such eventualities.

OP would have seen this early days when it was just her first DD.
If they didn't take interest then, then why would she expect them to suddenly change......

She chose to marry the guy as things were.

I wouldn't be surprised at how people treat step kids as I know people are different.

InterIgnis · 11/04/2025 20:52

qandatime · 11/04/2025 20:44

And they can want a good future relationship with there biological grandchild all they want.. They probably won’t get one if she grows up watching her sister excluded and her mum upset.

Why wouldn’t they get that? OP’s youngest may very well have zero problem with it. I’d say that’s more probable tbh, as for her this is normal. Her sister doesn’t have the same paternal grandparents as her, so why would anyone behave differently?

There’s been plenty of threads on here where younger children have ended up resenting their parent, and older half sibling(s), for having that expectation of them, and/or for denying them relationships with their own family members.