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Ex wants to take son to new partners

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Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 12:03

I know legally he doesn't have to provide an address, however my ex has asked if he can have my son one night and he will stay in his new gf's house (of 5.5 months) with her 3 children.

I would assume that she has a 2 bed so not sure if a bed would be available for him, I asked him if he would be sleeping in a bed and my ex ignored me and then sent a message saying
" It's not your business my new gf's address nor who will be sleeping where, he will be well looked after"

I've never met her, he initially lied about her name and whether she had children or not.
I have since found out that her children spend a lot of time at MGMs house (that's what my ex meant by not in her care)
He's also moved in now, last week.
Previously my ex used to take our son to PGMs house for 1 night EOW but he said now he's moved in he wants our son to stay there.

I haven't said yes or no yet, I'm a little concerned. AIBU to say no

OP posts:
TheFormidableMrsC · 10/04/2025 20:21

DorothyStorm · 10/04/2025 19:45

He has loved in with someone he has been dating for 5 and a half months. And she has three kids? Fucking hell what a shitshow this is going to be.

but sadly, you have no right to say no.

Yes she does. No contact order in place and he’s said it’s a “waste of time”, she has every right to say no I’m afraid.

TheFormidableMrsC · 10/04/2025 20:20

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 13:32

@TheFormidableMrsC this is what my solicitor thinks will happen, he'll just disappear, especially when another baby arrives.

He called about 30 mins ago wanting to speak to him, my goes preschool 51 weeks a year and has done since he was 11 months as I had to go back to work.
Asked where he was, told him nursery he said "but it's half term" he must have got confused with her children as they are school age (primary) how could you forget such a small thing as that. I might be overthinking it but it just shows how much of an interest he has/had

He’s currently wanting to paint himself to a woman he’s known for a very short time as an involved and invested father. Your son is an accessory to him. My advice is the same, no overnights until a CAO is in place. You are perfectly within your rights to do that. If he chooses not to cooperate with that then that’s his problem. What you’ve just described is the basics, what a twat. Stick to your guns!

TheFormidableMrsC · 10/04/2025 20:16

Sheepsheeps · 10/04/2025 19:53

He is the father which means he has EQUAL parental responsibility.
Unless there is a serious safeguarding issue that warrants reporting to SS immediately then as much as its upsetting you not knowing the details, you have no right to dictate what the father does with his own son when in his care and any court will tell you the same if you went for a formal child arrangement order.

Not when that parent is not involved, disinterested unless showing off, doesn’t pay maintenance and is obstructive and the child is 4 years old. The court, in my experience, would act accordingly.

arcticpandas · 10/04/2025 20:10

The father seems estranged from his son so I wouldn't be comfortable with this at all. I understand you're worried. He seems vile. I would just ignore him for now. It's not like he's interested in his son not being in touch for 4 weeks or refusing to pay for him.

Sheepsheeps · 10/04/2025 19:53

He is the father which means he has EQUAL parental responsibility.
Unless there is a serious safeguarding issue that warrants reporting to SS immediately then as much as its upsetting you not knowing the details, you have no right to dictate what the father does with his own son when in his care and any court will tell you the same if you went for a formal child arrangement order.

mamajong · 10/04/2025 19:50

Presumably your ex has your address to pick ds up, what is his reason for not giving an address? Providing you don't have form for turning up causing drama what exactly is his issue? Ask him that and ask how he'd feel if you moved and refused to tell him the address. Or offer to drop DS off or pick him up then you'll have to know 😬

BlueSlate · 10/04/2025 19:49

I’m surprised people are saying it’s got nothing to do with you. I’m am not separated and my children are much older than yours, but even if they go on a sleepover at a friends house (that I don’t know) I still know the address of where they are.

Presumably, your children's friends' parents don't have PR for your child.

ItsNearlyEaster · 10/04/2025 19:46

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 12:12

@toomuchfaff so if working it out means my 4.5 year old son is sleeping on a sofa in a strange home (which he has let happen before in his PGM home so he and his new GF can have sex in the bed, left him alone downstairs) that's f all to do with me?

Hugs OP. You're not in the wrong here. The fact that dad isn't communicating with you is an issue and just because he is the dad it doesn't give him the right to not collaborate with you as a fellow human, let alone the mother of his child. I hope u can get it sorted so you and DS feel ok.

DorothyStorm · 10/04/2025 19:45

He has loved in with someone he has been dating for 5 and a half months. And she has three kids? Fucking hell what a shitshow this is going to be.

but sadly, you have no right to say no.

ItsNearlyEaster · 10/04/2025 19:42

RedHelenB · 10/04/2025 13:20

He's an equal parent, he doesn't fall foul of any safeguarding concerns here.

It's just about keeping a picture of what is going on at home.

ItsNearlyEaster · 10/04/2025 19:41

SeventeenClovesOfGarlic · 10/04/2025 12:18

I can't work out what that poster means, do they mean OP should phone the child's school and let them know her ex is dating someone? Confused

Just when OP picks up from school they can ask to have a chat with the teacher and explain the family situation. They can explain that sometimes at weekends DS is starting to spend time with his dad and dad's new partner, but not much is known about what happens there as dad refuses to communicate. She can explain that she isn't sure of the sleeping arrangements, but would hope that DS is well rested when he comes back to school the next day. It's important for teachers to be aware of social issues going on at home, just incase e.g. DS gets emotional about the changes, especially if they are ND.

Cantbesure · 10/04/2025 16:47

I had some good advice from a friend once that I found hard to take. And it was to say yeh sure and then see what action they actually took. It already sounds like he CBA. And perhaps his main goal is to upset and control you. It’s worth considering.

ZoggyStirdust · 10/04/2025 15:52

“He’s also moved in”

you dropped this late into your post. So he wants his child to stay in his house? Of course that’s reasonable (unless you have more to reveal)

GRex · 10/04/2025 15:51

RedHelenB · 10/04/2025 13:54

They can ask but they have no right to know. Just as he has no right to know who OPs shagging or living in the house.

Sarah's law. Adults explicitly DO have the right to check if anyone with their child is a sex offender.

MissDoubleU · 10/04/2025 15:44

VincentofJazz · 10/04/2025 13:23

I’m surprised people are saying it’s got nothing to do with you. I’m am not separated and my children are much older than yours, but even if they go on a sleepover at a friends house (that I don’t know) I still know the address of where they are. I don’t delve into the sleeping arrangements though. Why would this not be the case for all parents- regardless of age, marriage status etc? I wouldn’t expect to have that knowledge removed from me just because I’m not with their father anymore?

I guess the nuance is if you are trying to block access and using this as an excuse (which I don’t think it sounds like you are).

IMO you are well within your rights to expect to know where your child is, but leave the sleeping arrangements and care to your ex. Perhaps if you come at if from that angle you can all move forward?

A child going to a sleepover with a friend and being in the presence of his other parent at the home they live in are very different things.

Meadowfinch · 10/04/2025 14:01

If he won't go to court, just tell him No and leave it at that.
If he wants access he'll need to take you to court at which time, you can ask for an access order, and have it documented that your child needs his own bed.

But from your description, I suspect your ex won't be bothered.

RedHelenB · 10/04/2025 13:54

They can ask but they have no right to know. Just as he has no right to know who OPs shagging or living in the house.

Mumble12 · 10/04/2025 13:32

RedHelenB · 10/04/2025 13:20

He's an equal parent, he doesn't fall foul of any safeguarding concerns here.

Actually I'd disagree. Having your child sleepover with a new partner of 5.5 months and their 3 children is a safeguarding concern as a parent. Maybe not by law, but not expressing an interest in where your children are is concerning to me. Two people that think 5.5 months is a suitable time period to bring 4 kids into the equation isn't making decisions in the best interests of the child really.

New partners can be abusive, or have awful pasts. Are we really saying the other parent has no right to ask about that if their ex deems them to be OK?

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 13:32

@TheFormidableMrsC this is what my solicitor thinks will happen, he'll just disappear, especially when another baby arrives.

He called about 30 mins ago wanting to speak to him, my goes preschool 51 weeks a year and has done since he was 11 months as I had to go back to work.
Asked where he was, told him nursery he said "but it's half term" he must have got confused with her children as they are school age (primary) how could you forget such a small thing as that. I might be overthinking it but it just shows how much of an interest he has/had

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Renamed · 10/04/2025 13:30

I’m surprised at some responses. He’s 4. You don’t know this other adult. You don’t know why her children are not living with her. You don’t know whether your son will have a bed or a sleeping bag somewhere or if he will be expected to share a bed with someone he doesn’t know. None of that sounds good.

VincentofJazz · 10/04/2025 13:23

I’m surprised people are saying it’s got nothing to do with you. I’m am not separated and my children are much older than yours, but even if they go on a sleepover at a friends house (that I don’t know) I still know the address of where they are. I don’t delve into the sleeping arrangements though. Why would this not be the case for all parents- regardless of age, marriage status etc? I wouldn’t expect to have that knowledge removed from me just because I’m not with their father anymore?

I guess the nuance is if you are trying to block access and using this as an excuse (which I don’t think it sounds like you are).

IMO you are well within your rights to expect to know where your child is, but leave the sleeping arrangements and care to your ex. Perhaps if you come at if from that angle you can all move forward?

RedHelenB · 10/04/2025 13:20

ItsNearlyEaster · 10/04/2025 12:11

But safeguarding is everyone's responsibility and op has a right to make sure her child is safe.

OP I would tell the school what's going on. They'll be able to keep an evidence log for you, should you (God forbid) ever need SS involvement ❤️ if he won't cooperate just objectively let the school know what is going on. xx

He's an equal parent, he doesn't fall foul of any safeguarding concerns here.

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 13:19

@LittleOwl153 I sent them on Friday. He refused medation 3 times so the mediator signed the c100 and sent to me.

I spoke with my solicitor, she obviously knows alot more and she said she would just leave it, as she believes he will just completely disappear in the next year or so, I also think the same.

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toomuchfaff · 10/04/2025 13:15

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 12:18

@toomuchfaff he doesn't do anything, he doesn't get involved with parenting, he hasn't seen his son for 4 weeks and doesn't pay maintenance, I have a CMS claim ongoing as he's fraudulently claiming benefits not declaring income, he's at work right now. Going off topic a bit but I understand what your trying to say.

If I say anything to him, he doesn't listen and doesn't respond to any texts so I've just given up.

I stopped calling him, he stopped calling me until Monday then he asked to see our son for 1 night to take to his gf house

In that case tell him to run and jump. He can't just dip in and out of being a parent to impress the new gf.

Misspotterer · 10/04/2025 13:14

Mummaonherown · 10/04/2025 12:35

@Bigfatsunandclouds he won't go court, told me I'm wasting my time to send papers.
He wants everything on his terms.

That's good then. Just ignore all contact going forward and block him. He's not actively parenting, he's not providing for his child. He may well be putting him at risk. He's not actually bringing anything but future misery to his child's life.
He won't take you to to court. Plan for solo parenting going forward.

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