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Should I pay this much for one to one coaching?

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Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 11:52

I have completed a group online parenting course for 5 weeks for free. Facilitator was really good and brilliant with advice. He's a life coach of a specific area of self development. He has been doing this for a decade. Have had a chat for private one to one coaching and he's quoted £4000 for a 5 month period of one day a week hour long sessions. I believe this would really help me, but is this price insanely high? or in line with what's available out there for coaching?

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BelfastBard · 10/04/2025 18:04

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 17:34

My qualifications are based on previous employment (20 years) related to working with children and families. Sorry not being specific because I don't want to identify myself.

Basically anyone can call themselves a coach so the important thing is to understand the qualifications and experience of the individual. I would not be a good coach without my experience, there are lots of coaches who's only experience is doing a course and having their own kids. I'm sure some are amazing but it makes me uncomfortable. The hooking people with free courses, particularly a long one like in this instance, doesn't feel right to me.

No, I understand that you don’t want to get into specifics for the purposes of anonymity.
I suppose, in a nutshell, you’ve described what my concerns about the rise in all these coaches is.
There are obviously people who have longstanding careers in relevant fields, with professional qualifications (so psychology, social work, health visitor etc). But there are many many more out there who have paid to take a course, run by someone else who has taken a course, they’re good with social media and marketing and they take off as a coach…

StartAnew · 10/04/2025 17:42

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 17:34

My qualifications are based on previous employment (20 years) related to working with children and families. Sorry not being specific because I don't want to identify myself.

Basically anyone can call themselves a coach so the important thing is to understand the qualifications and experience of the individual. I would not be a good coach without my experience, there are lots of coaches who's only experience is doing a course and having their own kids. I'm sure some are amazing but it makes me uncomfortable. The hooking people with free courses, particularly a long one like in this instance, doesn't feel right to me.

I agree. That's a dodgy tactic and also expensive for the course giver, so he must be expecting a lot back.

StartAnew · 10/04/2025 17:41

toomuchfaff · 10/04/2025 14:39

I'm starting coaching - how to make your life easier and grow your wealth

£4k a session, minimum booking 10 sessions.

Ooh yes please. If you send me your bank account details, home address, passport number and mother's maiden name, I'll ping you the first payment.

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 17:34

BelfastBard · 10/04/2025 16:41

Out of curiosity (genuine not being snarky as that doesn’t always come across on mn). What are the qualifications for becoming a parent coach? What is the professional background there?

My qualifications are based on previous employment (20 years) related to working with children and families. Sorry not being specific because I don't want to identify myself.

Basically anyone can call themselves a coach so the important thing is to understand the qualifications and experience of the individual. I would not be a good coach without my experience, there are lots of coaches who's only experience is doing a course and having their own kids. I'm sure some are amazing but it makes me uncomfortable. The hooking people with free courses, particularly a long one like in this instance, doesn't feel right to me.

Bigfatsunandclouds · 10/04/2025 17:32

£200 an hour for coaching is pretty standard if it's a trained professional in a speciifc area. I know leadership coaches charge this amount. However, it is what you are willing to pay for a change and whether this will help with what you need it to?

Life coaches I would be weary of as you can do minimal training online and peg yourself as one. Leadership/nutritional coaches have done extensive training with actual qualifications for example.

IWonderWhereMySharkPantsWent · 10/04/2025 17:30

My cousin works in this sort of area (not coaching but a similar set up), mainly does group sessions and international events. He’s often asked to do one to ones, which take up time and he doesn’t really enjoy, so he sets his prices high knowing that most people will be put off, and the few who do go ahead make it worth his while for the background work involved.

Maybe this is a similar situation?

Espresso25 · 10/04/2025 17:23

For that kind of money I’d want some impressive qualifications to substantiate his purported experience.

Jellycatspyjamas · 10/04/2025 17:17

Like I said in the post above, only qualification seems to be parenting coaching and training other coaches.

I’d want considerably more education than that for £200 a session. I have 13 years of university behind me, two professional qualifications and a Masters specialism and don’t charge half of that. It’s not difficult to get into training others if you’re a good communicator with a bit of knowledge and a good network.

Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 17:03

@Almaya no he's not trained or educated to that level at all.

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Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 17:02

Almaya · 10/04/2025 14:14

Hi OP,

I am a clinical psychologist and specialise in parenting support. I have trained for almost 10 years, have a doctorate, masters and undergrad plus lots of post doctoral training in particular models of therapy. I work between the nhs and private work and I charge 180 per session. This is in central London.

Unless this person is a highly specialist clinical psychologist they should not be charging that much. Actually the model of payment they are using (X months for X) worries me because from a therapeutic perspective we don’t ’trap’ people to keep them coming because they have laid. Ethically, you only want to see people whilst it is helpful and that model wouldn’t allow for this.

There are bespoke parenting groups which are well tailored, informative and evidence based online that you can do for free. This is all dependent on your child’s age and specific needs but younger children - the incredible years or Solihull groups are very good and as young people get older there are other options. Otherwise most local CAMHS services provide support for families like this (although I know there is a huge variation between areas).

if you did want to pay for parenting support privately I would recommend seeing a clinical psychologist if you’re thinking about spending that sort of money. Obviously I am biased but the skillset and level of training and experience practitioners have comes through very strongly with individual work. Anyone can run a good few parenting sessions.

Really helpful, many thanks

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Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 16:54

MamaAndTheSofa · 10/04/2025 14:03

I would certainly be looking at other options first. There's loads of help online; talk to other parents, post on here and people might be able to guide you. Is there a specific issue you're struggling with, or is it parenting in general?

You’ve done 5 weeks of sessions - has that helped? If so, can you continue to put what you learned into practice for a few months and see how things go? What more do you expect to get out of one-to-ones?

i should caveat that I'm very skeptical of "coaches" in general, having known a couple of people who've set themselves up in that area with no qualifications or any real experience. I wouldn't trust either of them with advice on counting to 10. One even claimed that "It's better to charge more because it makes you look more impressive".

You’ve done 5 weeks of sessions - has that helped? If so, can you continue to put what you learned into practice for a few months and see how things go? What more do you expect to get out of one-to-ones?

This, and what another poster has said about applying consistently what I've learnt so far, has been very helpful. Many thanks

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jackiesgirl · 10/04/2025 16:52

“Training other coaches” sounds like a red flag for MLM. He should be leading with his success rather than how many others he’s recruited. This guy stinks.

Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 16:52

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 16:30

I'm a parenting coach. I am very well qualified. I think it's unethical to suck people in with free programmes/courses and push them to spend a huge amount up front. I don't offer discounts for block bookings because it is hard to know when the work will be done. Some people are on a budget and can only manage a limited amount of sessions I keep things really focused, others want ongoing support. I am flexible to what the family needs rather than what is best for me financially and I don't want them to spend any more than they need to.

This isn't an advert. I use Mumsnet as a parent and wouldn't want to blur those boundaries. But I wanted to give you and idea of what other coaches offer so you understand that you don't have to sign up to this type of programme.

really helpful, thanks

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Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 16:50

FortyElephants · 10/04/2025 16:47

Post his name here and people will assess his bona fides for you

ah gosh i couldn't do that for fear of outing self.

Like I said in the post above, only qualification seems to be parenting coaching and training other coaches. Doing this for 10 years, and before that was in a professional and highly regulated field of work. Tbh he seems very good at what he does. I'm just shocked at the prices and wondered if it was reasonable.

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MoreChocPls · 10/04/2025 16:48

Sorry, but you’d be a complete mug to pay him for that. It sounds like he is brainwashing you to make you think that you need these paid extra sessions which are vastly expensive and overpriced. .

Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 16:48

HappyHedgehog247 · 10/04/2025 16:46

If you've had 5 weeks of him, would you consider paying for a couple of sessions with a psychologist or family therapist who specializes in parenting to compare before investing?

💯. how would I go about finding one

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FortyElephants · 10/04/2025 16:47

Post his name here and people will assess his bona fides for you

HappyHedgehog247 · 10/04/2025 16:46

If you've had 5 weeks of him, would you consider paying for a couple of sessions with a psychologist or family therapist who specializes in parenting to compare before investing?

Alacartemenu · 10/04/2025 16:45

Crunchymum · 10/04/2025 16:17

@Alacartemenu Is he asking you to pay the full amount up front?

No. He has said I should commit for a minimum of 3 months for £2400 to do the work I need to do. Can be paid monthly etc.

I haven't committed yet and have said I will be taking time out to think about it all.

I have decided not to go ahead with it, as seems to be such a wealth of expertise out there.

I will have a proper read of the thread and will look at all the resources mentioned.

For those who asked, no counselling training etc, but says he is a trained parenting coach who trains other coaches, and worked in this field for over a decade.

Many thanks to all posters, this thread has been invaluable, and empowering too.

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BelfastBard · 10/04/2025 16:41

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 16:30

I'm a parenting coach. I am very well qualified. I think it's unethical to suck people in with free programmes/courses and push them to spend a huge amount up front. I don't offer discounts for block bookings because it is hard to know when the work will be done. Some people are on a budget and can only manage a limited amount of sessions I keep things really focused, others want ongoing support. I am flexible to what the family needs rather than what is best for me financially and I don't want them to spend any more than they need to.

This isn't an advert. I use Mumsnet as a parent and wouldn't want to blur those boundaries. But I wanted to give you and idea of what other coaches offer so you understand that you don't have to sign up to this type of programme.

Out of curiosity (genuine not being snarky as that doesn’t always come across on mn). What are the qualifications for becoming a parent coach? What is the professional background there?

Hibernatingtilspring · 10/04/2025 16:41

That's a great post by @Almaya

That's what I was getting at, even taking into account that you're paying self employed rates, that it's harder for them to get a 37hr week etc, £200 p/hr is more than what we pay for the absolute experts in their field, when we're dealing with the most vulnerable children and require a level that can go before the family court.

Also we'd never pay a 4k block, it would be much more likely to agree to say, 8 sessions and a review and then consider if further sessions were needed. The fixed term does seem dodgy, other than a way for this coach to guarantee their income for a few months.

StartAnew · 10/04/2025 16:38

In your position I would refuse the repeat offer and say you would like to arrange one session at a time. Thinking about it, this approach advantages him and not you.

Lostthefairytale · 10/04/2025 16:30

I'm a parenting coach. I am very well qualified. I think it's unethical to suck people in with free programmes/courses and push them to spend a huge amount up front. I don't offer discounts for block bookings because it is hard to know when the work will be done. Some people are on a budget and can only manage a limited amount of sessions I keep things really focused, others want ongoing support. I am flexible to what the family needs rather than what is best for me financially and I don't want them to spend any more than they need to.

This isn't an advert. I use Mumsnet as a parent and wouldn't want to blur those boundaries. But I wanted to give you and idea of what other coaches offer so you understand that you don't have to sign up to this type of programme.

Crunchymum · 10/04/2025 16:17

@Alacartemenu Is he asking you to pay the full amount up front?

Espresso25 · 10/04/2025 16:15

Just because they’re well known doesn’t mean they’re effective - could just mean they’re manipulative.