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One day old baby in pub

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Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

OP posts:
CurlewKate · 12/04/2025 09:25

I “protected my fragile new human” by keeping her warm and safe in a sling, cuddled up to her favorite things-my heartbeat and my breast. She did’t care where the rest of me was!

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 09:05

Peony1897 · 12/04/2025 07:24

There’s a huge difference between holding off taking a newborn to the pub for a few weeks and being chained to the sink forever more.

But it's the same vibe. There's no reason to hold off going out with your newborn for a few weeks, just like there's no reason to scrub your step.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 09:02

Allseeingallknowing · 11/04/2025 23:10

Speaking as one who had babies in the sixties, first one at 18, I can’t think of anything worse than going for lunch in a pub with a newborn. I wanted to get home, have peace and quiet and time with them, while having a rest. A noisy environment and having to converse with everyone who wanted to look at the new addition would be the last thing I wanted. We just wanted to keep baby to ourselves, plenty of time to share them later! No way would I have trudged round a supermarket. Those first few hours after leaving hospitals were too precious to be shared with strangers.

Wow, you sound amazing, you must love your baby so much more than the rest of us do!

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:59

Peony1897 · 11/04/2025 21:52

Maybe. But a pub is no place for a 1 day old. I don’t care if that makes me boring.

Not boring, just lacking in critical thinking capacity if you can't explain why.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:59

BoldAmberDuck · 11/04/2025 21:41

I stayed home 10 days which was the general advice back in the 80’s. I can’t imagine wanting to go to the pub, I just wanted to protect my fragile new human

As do we all, that's pretty standard human behaviour. I protected my fragile new human while out for lunch.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:56

Peony1897 · 11/04/2025 21:30

Why wouldn’t it be? Small pub, popular venue, nice weather, lunchtime deals? The pub on our office road would be heaving with office workers on their lunch break as they did good lunch deals.

The OP would have mentioned if it was heaving.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:55

Peony1897 · 11/04/2025 21:25

I wouldn’t risk my baby’s health for a nice meal in a pub, I would just order one to my house or have somebody make one for me.

Interesting. Would you risk your baby's health by taking it home from hospital in a car? That's a statistically riskier thing to do that going for a pub lunch.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:52

GMV42 · 11/04/2025 20:41

This is ridiculous. There is a serious risk of haemorrhaging after childbirth. That is why people are advised to stay at home. Babies are susceptible to all kinds of illnesses being around lots of people.
I had my first when I was young and I stayed in for 3 weeks bonding as it’s such a precious time.

People aren't advised to stay at home.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:50

GiveDogBone · 11/04/2025 20:21

She can do what she wants. But a one day old baby does not have a functioning immune system. If it had caught an infection (flu, etc) from anyone it could have died and there’s very little doctors would have been able to do about it.

Obviously a 17 year old is immature and way too young to have a baby (and very unlikely to be well educated on matters to do with caring for a baby), so her behaviour does not surprise me.

JFC. And what about thus who were a more appropriate age for you? I was 32 when I had my first baby, and I am educated to PhD level. I went out for lunch with my baby on day 5. It was a lovely experience all round. My baby snuggled and slept on me, I chatted with my husband and relaxed.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:44

TheHierophant · 11/04/2025 19:02

Horrifying! Babies need to be at home in a safe, snug, loving environment not being paraded in a pub! Pubs contain all the wrong energy for a baby, a truly toxic mix.

But she was at a pub restaurant in a safe, snug, loving environment.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 08:41

Unsquaredancer · 11/04/2025 17:42

Personally I look back on those initial days with my first born as a wonderful haze of love, getting to know each other in our own little bubble. Nursing her, singing to her, bathing her - being in awe of her. I remember the smells and the feelings of having this new little human and had no desire to "show her off", although I was happy for close family to visit.

I do not class myself as 'pfb' material and of course when you have subsequent babies practicalities take over and my DD2 was taken out on in her first week of life.

But those early days with my first daughter, just me, DH and her - I treasure those memories.

Yes, that's what it was like for most of us. I still went out to lunch with my baby and husband when she was 5 days old. I remained in awe of and in love with her. Treasured memories.

KindLemur · 12/04/2025 08:34

Cherrytree86 · 12/04/2025 08:29

@Peony1897
@Livingbytheocean

look huns, if you wanna be needlessly cooped up indoors for weeks on end after having a baby - you do you.
meanwhile other women are going exercise their common sense and balance having a baby with having a life.

p.s have either of you actually ever been in a pub? I think not given the alcohol soaked, debauched, cold, unsafe, germ ridden hovels that you seem to envision them to be!

I think it’s clear from this thread that lots of mumsnetters ‘lives’ are sitting in a quiet house jumping with fright when the phone rings, logging with the police when someone knocks at the door and spending their days whispering to their delicate dc to avoid any extra cortisol releases 😂

pubs are clearly scary, Wild West style saloons where newborn babies will be grabbed from new mothers and people drink neat vodka at midday , waiting to attack passers by

Cherrytree86 · 12/04/2025 08:29

@Peony1897
@Livingbytheocean

look huns, if you wanna be needlessly cooped up indoors for weeks on end after having a baby - you do you.
meanwhile other women are going exercise their common sense and balance having a baby with having a life.

p.s have either of you actually ever been in a pub? I think not given the alcohol soaked, debauched, cold, unsafe, germ ridden hovels that you seem to envision them to be!

Pherian · 12/04/2025 07:42

Frenchie01 · 09/04/2025 23:27

So family member gave birth to first baby yesterday afternoon, she's a very young mum only 17 , normal delivery but episiotomy, baby good weight healthy. Was discharged home today and a couple of hours later was at the local pub not drinking alcohol just showing baby off and eating a meal , but am I right in thinking a day old baby baby is really too young to be in a pub or anywhere really , also worried she should be resting as obviously will be sore. Other family members have said I'm being old fashioned am I.

You sound judgmental and frankly rude. Whether she rests or not is up to her. The child being in public is doing it no harm.

I hope you had the courtesy to keep your “thoughts” to yourself.

Peony1897 · 12/04/2025 07:25

doreeen · 11/04/2025 22:44

It still depends on the baby and situation- that article fixates a lot on kissing and the herpes virus as well as chicken pox. Newborn babies are only at risk of these if they have no maternal antibodies. Since I’ve had chicken pox and cold sores in the past neither of those were a concern to me with my newborn.

im just uncertain of the narrative that even mild colds and viruses are ‘extremely dangerous’ to newborns as has been peddled by a few on this thread. If this was the case why is there no widespread guidance on how to deal with bringing babies into a home already inhabited by toddlers and small children who are the germiest biohazards known to man. If it was that dangerous you’d be advised to send them packing for a couple of months.

I also remember in the COVID pandemic newborns were not considered clinically vulnerable despite all immunocompromised groups being so.

Edited

You obviously haven’t had a child in hospital for a while. My toddler was in for pneumonia a few weeks ago and they had a whole ward with isolation rooms for babies with RSV. They were all in use.

Peony1897 · 12/04/2025 07:24

DeskJotter · 11/04/2025 23:17

Agreed. And if you can't put your family's NEEDS (i.e. cleaned doorstep) ahead of your own SELFISH behaviours (i.e. doing other things), then we should call Social Services!

There’s a huge difference between holding off taking a newborn to the pub for a few weeks and being chained to the sink forever more.

Peony1897 · 12/04/2025 07:23

Smallmercies · 12/04/2025 06:20

OK I guess? You do you and leave off judging others?

If I did there would be no threads on this website.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 07:22

newmumtobe1989 · 10/04/2025 15:40

In general babies need quiet environments, soft voice, time and space to bond with mum. If the pub is crowded, people shouting, loud music and baby is passed around for people to see that can overwhelm them and make them restless. Also if there lots of people, the risk of catching something is higher and babies do not have the immune system to fight anything nor allowed Calpol until they are 2 months old to fight fever. Unless it’s a quiet place with not too many people there, it might be okay. I appreciate everyone’s opinion is different so it is up to carers to decide 😊xx

But you've made up the scenario of a crowded pub with people shouting, loud music, and the baby being passed around to all and sundry. Don't you think the (judgy) OP would have mentioned these rather sacious details?

The girl was out for a pub lunch on a Wednesday.

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 07:12

Livingbytheocean · 10/04/2025 14:01

I think it’s time we added expert opinions from doctors and professors.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/new-parents-and-newborns-are-visitors-ok

Looks like this girl was a-OK, then. The OP doesn't mention anything about lots of people having close contact with the baby (i.e. being passed around), so: check. The baby was in a pub restaurant so was not in a crowded place like an airplane or them park, so: check.

Phew!

DeskJotter · 12/04/2025 07:04

To those few posters who said they felt they needed to not leave the house for 6-8 weeks, did you get screened for post natal anxiety? It sounds like there were terrible things going on in your head, and I feel for you, as this wasn't advice given to you by any medical professional.

Livingbytheocean · 12/04/2025 06:26

Smallmercies · 12/04/2025 06:20

OK I guess? You do you and leave off judging others?

It’s normal to judge others, you do it all of the time, it’s called having an opinion. Everyone is entitled to one even if it’s different to yours.

Smallmercies · 12/04/2025 06:20

Peony1897 · 11/04/2025 21:25

I wouldn’t risk my baby’s health for a nice meal in a pub, I would just order one to my house or have somebody make one for me.

OK I guess? You do you and leave off judging others?

Smallmercies · 12/04/2025 06:18

Anonym00se · 11/04/2025 21:33

I’ve had a number of haemorrhages, and I can say quite categorically I’d much prefer to have a medic spread my legs and insert their fist to attempt to stop the bleeding in the privacy of my own home rather than on a pub carpet.

That's a very niche reason to disapprove of someone else taking their baby to a pub!

GrandTheftWalrus · 12/04/2025 00:02

Well i when took my less than 48hrs old baby it was the first day after covid in Scotland that we could drink inside.

Galaxybisc · 11/04/2025 23:19

i don’t think it’s ideal for a baby to be in a pub at one day old because it’ll be full of germs especially at this time of year when it’s warming up. Not something I’d advocate but each to their own.