One day old baby in pub

My babies were lovely and I adored them. Those words and phrases - precious/tiny human/ family bubble are twee and make me cringe.

It's just rather twee sounding.

I never had this feeling of wanting to be in a bubble or there being some sacrosanct time that needed to be respected where we hid from the world at home. I just wanted to be out and about enjoying our new life.

That doesn't make me any better a parent than someone who does want to stay at home. And it doesn't make the stay at homers any better either.

There is a lot of unscientific nonsense in this thread.

New born babies are born with mothers antibodies circulating. Their immune system is not fragile. As long as you have all of your vaccinations your baby will be protected until its vaccinations. If you are an anti vax mother, then sure be more careful with your baby.

The womb is VERY noisy. It is not a calm oasis. That is why those white noise machines exist, because coming from a noisy womb to a quiet room can be disconcerting for a baby.

It is true that traditionally babies used to be kept in the home for a month with their mother. There is limited evidence that this does reduce the risk of post partum haemorrhage and complications. Remember there would not have been any screening of at risk mothers, and getting outside the home meant hard labour like washing clothes by hand, farming, scrubbing floors. It is good practice to avoid heavy labour for at least a month after giving birth, preferably six weeks. Sitting in a pub having a meal is NOT hard labour.

Every birth, every mother, and every baby is different. Do what feels right for you.

Are babies not precious, then? What is your definition? Perhaps precious has a different meaning to you.

Firstly, Flat white, of course all babies are precious ( traditional meaning) and tiny humans! It’s just that I wouldn’t want to share that special time with others for a while. They’ll get to meet the world soon enough.

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who feels like that about those words! I have a quite visceral reaction to them - they make me physically cringe.

But can’t you just do you and not worry about what other people want to do? I couldn’t give a fuck whether a new mum wants to sit around gazing at her new baby, or whether she wants to meet friends at her local for a glass of wine. Neither is unacceptable, as long as baby is fed, warm and clean. I personally didn’t ever feel the need to sit at home recovering from birth. Why should I have to?
Most of the naysayers on this thread don’t have that opinion, though. They seem to think that unless you’re at home, taking in hushed tones with the lights down low, you must be on social service’s radar.

Once again it is all just PFB nonsense about hiding away in a cocoon. When you have older children and toddlers you have to get on with life and baby has to slot into the madness. IME in the first weeks babies are just like these little sleeping jacket potatoes that just snooze through everything and anything and really don’t care where they are. Very portable and easy to take into cafes or round shops, I’d say make the most of it.

What is with all this “precious” and “tiny human” and “nests”
drivel? It’s cringeworthy. My first wasn’t remotely “precious”. He screamed all the bloody time except when he was out in the sling and if I’d been forced to stay in the house “bubbling” I’d have gone insane.

Guess what, I still managed to love my children and be a good mother in spite of our many trips to the pub.

It doesn’t mean you never go out or see other people, or do normal things. It means that precious time after the birthis used to be with baby and family, and to recover physically and mentally. As for sitting around doing nothing, no one can do that with a new baby!

To be fair, with how long the food takes to come you never know 😂

Not everyone can or wants to sit around in a ‘family bubble’ for weeks after the birth. It would have driven me mad, I absolutely hate sitting around doing nothing. I like my normality and that included shopping, doing the school run and socialising with friends. My 4 children are none the worse off for having slotted into our routine.

Being in a family bubble for a few weeks will not lead to the issues you describe. It’s quiet time to enable baby and mother to bond in a peaceful environment and enjoy precious moments with the family, which I personally wouldn’t want to share in a pub, restaurant, shop or any other public place.
Neither would I need to stop on the way home to do a supermarket shop, which surely could be arranged by some else, or an online shop.
Some seem to think that the time after birth is just slotted into routine- it’s not- it’s a special time and deserves to be treated as such.

What on earth has having a fragile head got to do with anything? I’m presuming nobody was swinging the baby round by its feet or using it as a pool cue so it was probably ok…

And animals hide away to protect their young from being eaten. Very little chance of anyone eating op’s neice’s newborn in the local Harvester.

What a silly response - how on earth would you come to that conclusion because I said I would rather spend that precious time after giving birth with my immediate family, rather than in a pub or any other place?

I agree with you!

You were the one who brought up the supposed illegality- pot, kettle, black spring to mind!

Vibes.

What are you basing this medical advice on?

Woooah, hold on there, Hyacinth Bouquet! What an awful, judegemental post. Clearly empathy has not and prob wont kick in for you either. You make it seem the mum was there as was dying for a drink, and she wasnt even drinking!

Maybe she went to the pub to meet family and friends and it was easier to get everyone seated (and have chairs) than lets say get everyone in a cramped house or sit on the grass in a park and be uncomfortable. The baby was more likely to catch something in the actual hospital.
You are a human being by name, but maybe not by nature- would it be fair to suggest you think?

There is no explanation needed!!! Wow I'm amazed how people can't live without going to the pub for atkeast the first 5 days. I guess maternal instincts haven't & prob won't kick in. Mother by name not by nature. This is actually a joke amount of people that think it's fine to come straight out of a hospital straight into a pub in a enclosed settings with random people with random germs. You want to get a drink or meal do it at home. Now this baby is your world not about when u going to see so and so when are you going to be about to go down to local pub. Look after your number 1 first she's still vulnerable and more likely to catch something... Before you all have a strop in talking baby first week or 2 these days are vital for their health. Hopefully both baby&mum are doing well.

So you berate people for being sarcastic while calling other mothers ridiculous? Sanctimonious much? 😁

Not to mention the fact that article is American and bordering on batshit! 😂

Ok. . it's irrelevant anyway as she wasn't drinking. But you obviously feel the need to be pedantic

So you are judging her by your own standards- if she is OK to walk then fantastic, you should be happy for her, not writing judgemental post pretending to be all concerned on mumsnet. If oyu were concerned about her, why didt you speak to her? Rather than, you know, a bunch of strangers who dont know the young mum.
Whaty baby advice did you get about going out after hospital actually?