One day old baby in pub

So much unnecessary judgement and assumption in a lot of these replies.

It does sound that way doesn't it?

Really, this is a pub that serves food and also evidently allows kids. It's going to be more like a cafe or restaurant, both of which often serve alcohol, than it is a spit and sawdust place.

Oh I remember the pain of episiotomy, but then I was cut from sun up to sun down IYKWIM.

I think this is a personal one. I personally would not have had a 1 day old in a pub, or anywhere other than out for a short walk in their pram. I think I too am old fashioned. I waited about a week before taking DS1 out to introduce to people (and it was in a pub 20 years ago). DS2 I took to a family wedding at 1 week old. I remember running out on the morning of the wedding looking for something comfortable to wear because I was in pain and the clothes I had originally bought were too tight down there.

Babies find birth traumatic, their bodies are full of cortisol, and the shock of delivery regardless of how easy or otherwise is considerable.

The stress and sometimes pain can last a few days at least - why wouldn’t you want to make a baby comfortable and warm at home, to offer a quiet sanctuary to a tiny human being that has already just endured such an epic, exhausting delivery? So their tiny bodies can regulate, their central nervous systems can settle down, they are able to start to feel secure and bond with their mother?

Their immune systems are not fully developed at all, so why expose them to so many germs? Needless germs too, because although hospitals are essential to the baby’s safe delivery, a pub certainly isn’t essential is it.

I am just speechless anyone would even consider this to be in the best interests of the baby! Clearly it is not. It is what the parents want to do, and that is a very sad start to their lives.

Apart from being exhausted after childbirth, I wanted to take my baby home and be calm and have not too much noise around them. Pubs are not know for this.

I think that we went to the pub more times in the early weeks than we normally do because it was easier to get a cooked meal. I also popped into Boots on my way home to get bottles and formula.
One of my friends was born in a pub!

I was at soft play the morning after ds2 was born. Easier to have the older ones running off energy with friends dc than stuck in the house. If she feels well enough then good for her

Why would social services be interested in someone taking a baby to a pub?

I think it’s fine for the baby but after all of my births i was shattered!. I remember when my kids were little a pregnant mum at school did the drop off at 9am and at 3pm she did the pick up with a baby in tow 😊

I’m with you. I don’t think I even got dressed for at least a week after all of them. I was completely exhausted, in pain, I’d had about four minutes sleep and my breast were erupting!

Also I remember after my first (over 30 years ago) being told to keep baby indoors for 10 days. I had my 2nd 5 years later and that advice had changed.

hygiene
immune system

What are the needs of the baby that op has told us were not being met?

When I went baby was snuggled up against me in a sling or being fed (bf so also by me) or sleeping happily in the pram. What needs are not being met by being in an environment that isn't the parents' own lounge?

I took ds2 on the bus to town and to do a supermarket shop 2 days after my emergency c section. Was a single parent and he was born tiny so needed to buy him tiny baby size clothing.

I wouldn’t have taken him to a pub so young but did go to cafes the following week.

ROCK bottom standards is the issue I have, not with pubs per se.

Yes we all know that is what YOU want to do!!!! It’s obvious the parents have no problem recognising what they want to do but surely the needs of the BABY should come first no? Jesus Christ.

Sounds like you have issues with pubs in general. It's mostly no different to a cafe or restaurant. Nothing wrong with being out and about if the mother feels up to it.

I remember the first day visit midwife telling me to make sure I stayed in bed on day 3 because I would definitely get a crash then and need to rest. I never wanted to stay in bed and never had that crash. I was at least up and on the sofa. Everyone feels differently in all those first few days and weeks.

It wouldn’t be for me, but she sounds happy and delighted to show off her baby to her friends.

I think the pub context can vary widely, I doubt she had the baby propped at the bar with a pint.

lol. Social services? Kindly get a grip.

Day I was discharged after my sections I was out and about and visiting cafes and pubs and things. I felt fine and wanted to get out and about.

Pubs vary massively i see no issue taking a young baby to a quiet country pub that serves nice food
It would be very different to a loud music venue type pub full of pissed up people.

Ds went into school followed by preschool and was held by teachers and children alike at 8 hours old.
He went to his first supermarket and cafe at 1 day old.
His first visit to Legoland was at about 3 days old.

#3 just has to get on with it.

It’s just rough.
It could be the nicest pub in the world, it’s still not a place for a newborn baby that has only just arrived.

It’s just unthinkable to me, no wonder social services are overwhelmed if people genuinely think this is acceptable parenting, there is no thought whatsoever of the comfort and well being of the baby, that’s the issue I have with it.

I dunno what pubs you go to. But ours are very family friendly places. Not like what you are describing at all.

If baby healthy (good weight etc ) and mum not too sore I think it’s OK .
Pubs are all smoke free now aren’t they ?
Mum sounds sensible not drinking etc and presumably she wasn’t there too long . Having a meal meant she didn’t have to cook etc .
I think times have changed . ….
We were challenged by a mature member of staff in Asda with my one day old (20 years ago )
She commented on the baby being too young to be out , but it was a lovely sunny day (July ) baby was a good weight and I’d been cooped up in a hospital the previous few days and I wanted to stretch my legs . Plus we needed food !