One day old baby in pub

I'm old obviously but my Mum stopped for a pint of Guinness on the way home from the hospital with me 🤣 said she'd craved it all through her pregnancy but didn't want to drink alcohol-my mum doesn't even like a drink! Drinks 1 or two on special occasions maximum but she was NOT not having that pint!

I'd have told him to keep his nasty, judgey, misogynistic and utlimately inaccurate views to himself, irrespective of whether the group were young single mothers, or older married women. The fucking cheek of some men thinking they can pass judgement and comments like that. 😡

Totally agree with this.

And if she'd been going to the pub the day before she gave birth then the baby would still have gone to the pub environment with her!!

Ps I had a colicky one as well as one that slept and can confirm that not all newborns sleep anywhere 🙃 the ones that just sleep are a dream!!

I think it depends on your tolerance to pain. Also, I'd you haven't had pain relief you feel OK pretty much straight away.

I'm one of those people who did the food shop the night I got home from hospital and was up softplay with a friend's toddler at 5 days postpartum BUT I'd had a very short labour and no complications. If you'd been in labour for 3 days and had an emergency c section you'd need a lot more rest.

Newborns mostly sleep anywhere, any time. I didn't even know the colour of ds's eyes for about 2 weeks after he was born 😂 People make the mistake of tip toeing around sleeping babies, but the reality is that they're born thinking it's permanently night time, so noise during the day and quiet at night is a perfectly fine way for them to begin to develop a functioning circadian rhythm. All in the safety of warm, loving arms, as opposed to the womb.

Can we have some stats and compare them with the risk of having a car accident, being struck by lightning or lifetime risk of losing a limb for whatever reason please?

I'm kinda sick to death of "but you could die of HippoFlu" without this being put into context of other daily risks and whether we really should just continue to live but be vigilant rather than living in fear and never doing anything.

People live in pubs, and as such take their babies home to them. I was out and about immediately after giving birth as I'd been so ill and uncomfortable in pregnancy that I immediately felt better after. It's not for you to judge.
if she had got smashed you may have had a point.

The difference for a baby between being cuddled and fed at home or being cuddled and fed in a pub on a weekday afternoon are negligible. Both in terms of noise and germ exposure.

Not a single person on here has suggested a newborn has to stay in, of course you can go out, but it is sensible to limit exposure, as far as it is possible, to bacteria and viruses for the first three months. That is the standard recommendation. That is why people wash their hands before holding newborns, do not attempt a visit with a cold etc. A newborn can become vey very unwell very quickly.

If pp couldn’t care less about the facts or medical opinion or their baby’s health, and they are happy to run the risk it’s up to them.

A baby that has just been born will feel uniquely vulnerable and sensitive to noise, light and smell. Most parents choose a more gentle and supportive approach by moderating their baby’s exposure to the environment, other people and are careful and mindful certainly at the beginning of life.

The culture and lack of support can make it very hard for new parents of multiple children to get the help and support they need in the very early days.

They do - for a few weeks, which is why we vaccinate at 8 weeks.
The newborn has immunity, so everyone can stop worrying about their ‘immature immune system’. At this stage it’s pretty good.

Oh god don't say this!!! You'll have everyone up in arms thinking that you went on a weekend bender with a 4 day old baby 😂

This, most pubs I’ve been to on a weekday afternoon aren’t much different to visiting a cafe or restaurant. There’s crayons and high chairs and families eating food.

My cousin was born on Christmas Eve and we all went for a big family Christmas Day meal at the local pub where it was absolutely packed and noisy as anything.

He survived.

Mine are 20 and 16 now so a bit late but thankfully they did survive
I didn't go to pubs as they have never been my thing but we were out and about with them from very young, especially with DS as I didn't want to disrupt his older sisters life any more
It was DD's 4th birthday 1 week after DS was born and we had a big party and our house. I hardly saw him all day!

I remember another time I was at a cafe with a few other mums from the NHS post-natal group I went to. A man of about 60 made a loud comment to his dining companion "Bloody feckless single teenage mums, not a dad amongst them."

• Not that it matters, but the youngest among us was about 26 and the oldest in her 40s, I was 30.
• As it was a Wednesday afternoon, the dads were at work.

Well here is here family member posting a thread hoping for opprobrium, so not a giant leap to me either.

https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/about-us/our-campaigns/infection-prevention-week/

Babies are uniquely vulnerable, and those bragging that they don’t care and will expose their newborns to anything hours after arrival are quite frankly bloody irresponsible.

My dear friend had this attitude until her baby developed sepsis. Thankfully she pulled through, but df was much more careful after that.

The advice has never changed re the risks of an undeveloped immune system in very young babies is well known. I suggest pp educate themselves on the risks.

Maybe they just spend a lot of time watching old sitcoms from the 90s where it was all beer mats, busty barmaids and fist fights?! 😂

In reality most pubs these days are (sadly) more like gastropubs / restaurants serving £20 meals and £10 glasses of wine.

I think it’s time we added expert opinions from doctors and professors.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/new-parents-and-newborns-are-visitors-ok

We went for a meal with DD1 when she was about a month old and we went on a little holiday (an hour away to the coast) and then to a restaurant for a bite to eat about a five minute walk from where we were staying. Took her in the car seat attached to the pushchair base so as not to take up lots of space, and collapsed the base in a corner when we got in, and put DD on a chair next to us.

She slept the whole time and we were probably there about an hour as we were so nervous about her waking up and disturbing anyone.

Someone probably with the mentality of the OP commented loudly that I was "carrying her round like a bag of shopping" - the first of many twatty comments some people feel the need to make towards mums/parents with young children but other than that we had a nice time.

Full of pissed people, germs and smells.

On a Wednesday afternoon??? Not sure where you live but no pub near me is like that ever. Never mind mid week 😂

My mum had a lot of siblings and so when my Grandparents first got a car (in the 60s / 70s) there wasn't enough room for them all to have seat so the younger kids would travel in the boot 😃

Hopefully most pregnant women are sensible enough to be vaccinated against those illnesses during pregnancy.

The baby's needs?! As in, being clean, fed, warm and with it's mum? And having a pram / something to sleep in? Mum obviously feels fine, wants a good hearty meal and, as this was yesterday (Wednesday), I'm assuming the pub was relatively quiet and clearly family friendly? So no different to a cafe or restaurant.

So not sure what exactly the problem is...?

Yup I think this is old fashioned especially now pubs are nonsmoking, but like you I am amazed she’s managed it 🤣