One day old baby in pub

You must know some dodgy old pubs if they are full of pissed up people on a weekday afternoon. If you avoid wetherspoons in a crappy area I doubt most are like that.

Exactly, hospitals are certainly not quiet with all the people coming and going, babies crying, mums crying.

My house with child #1 was fairly quiet but I had 2 noisy cats.

With child #2 I had a very noisy toddler who loved nothing more than to drop toys on the laminate flooring.

By contrast my local pub was a ghost town weekday afternoons (I also worked there so child #2 was carted about to see everybody as soon as I could walk the distance)!

Now I work in more of a cafe and it's so much busier but we still have tiny babies coming in, many of them are getting big now and have managed to survive the carnage of talking people, coffee making and just general hustle and hustle.

I've not seen a single newborn be manhandled by a ramdomer, most of us have just peered in the pram at arms lengths and gone "aww"

Ultimately germs are everywhere and completely unavoidable unless you seal yourself in a bubble. Even if you do shut yourself a way you are only reducing the risk, not eliminating it. In my eyes the risk of something terrible happening to my newborn baby tucked up in a pram not in contact with anything in the big wide wold is so low but the risk to my mental health by being isolated is extremely high. There is more risk when they are touching everything even when they are vaccinated.

Nope, not a Cafe either. Especially not a pub where there is alcohol and likely intoxicated people. On day one of my babies life I would be at home/hospital resting with baby. That’s just me.

Similar when it isn't your first baby either. No one has a calm and quiet house when they have a toddler at home. 😂

None of that available on the ward and we were stuck there for 4 days. I would’ve much rather be in a pub midweek , during the day and going home after, but them’s the breaks.

I can't find any links that state newborns are more at risk to sepsis? I also can't find any links that say newborns should be kept away from people for weeks, just to use precaution which is sensible.

I went with dh and our 3 other kids on a farm park day trip at 7 days. As long as they are both happy and healthy and want to, it's absolutely fine.

I guess you haven't been in a pub that does meals on a weekday afternoon then. Usually 3 or 4 of the 16 tables occupied. Often an elderly couple or 2 or a young family.

The coffee shops are busier

I discharged myself before I’d even delivered the placenta, and took DC clubbing in a sling. He loved it.

At a day old the baby would have it no matter how she was feeding

Christ Almighty.

Best tell that to post natal wards and petition to ban visitors.

I thought ideas about "miasma" (theory that diseases were caused by a noxious form of "bad air" or smells) was a debunked Victorian one.

Silly me. I stand corrected that pubs are sources of dangerous miasma in 2025 still.

In general babies need quiet environments, soft voice, time and space to bond with mum. If the pub is crowded, people shouting, loud music and baby is passed around for people to see that can overwhelm them and make them restless. Also if there lots of people, the risk of catching something is higher and babies do not have the immune system to fight anything nor allowed Calpol until they are 2 months old to fight fever. Unless it’s a quiet place with not too many people there, it might be okay. I appreciate everyone’s opinion is different so it is up to carers to decide 😊xx

I’ve never read such rubbish before here, protecting babies from smells, where are you getting this from. You just crack on with life. They are full of the antibodies you the mother passed on and are topping up if breastfeeding too. I suspect they are actually exposed to less now we don’t put newborns into hospital crèches for a week.

Dc1 was at her grandads big birthday celebration (in a pub) at 2 days old. I didn't think anything of it at the time but now that I think back I'm shocked that I went. I was still exhausted and probably should have been resting. Everyone was over to look at dd who was asleep in her pram throughout. All good but that was pre covid.
I probably wouldn't have wanted germs on her if she was born post covid 🤣

Being able to shield newborns from noise and germs only really works with first babies as well. If you’re bringing baby back to a gross sticky toddler plus a five-year-old, who both go to different settings every day with multiple other children and bring home a new bug/virus/infection every couple of weeks then you don’t have much choice in it. Plus your home is unlikely to be tranquil and peaceful for your newborn to thrive in the silence.

and light sensitivity? I was told to put the newborn in front of the patio door in the sunlight every day as the HV thought he was a bit yellow and it would help.

Seems good to me, I took dd shopping the day after she was born and went out for dinner (yes at a pub restaurant) when she was 3 days old. Took her up to central London at 12 days old. Dd2 got taken on the school run at 2 days old

I do have to agree with you. Pubs used to be so much nicer years ago.

Untrue, newborn babies are more at risk, read the links.

Sepsis can happen at any age. It’s a rare response to infection.

I preferred the pubs full of smokers. It stopped people using them as creches.

Most parents choose a more gentle and supportive approach by moderating their baby’s exposure to the environment, other people and are careful and mindful certainly at the beginning of life.

Most parents? Have you read the thread? You’re very much in the minority here. Most parents have to crack on with normal life.

I think we just laughed. In horror, mostly.

Honestly I've never known such a time in my life when people felt they could make such unwarranted and ridiculous comments and judgement. Didn't happen so much after DD2 as I was all of 33 and probably looked more tired by then!

Though I remember being with my mum at a playground on holiday one time with both DDs, there was only one other mum there, with (I assumed) her mum or MIL. The older woman said loudly and looking pointedly in my and DDs' direction "Of course some parents just spend all their money on designer clothes for their kids, more money than sense!" The younger woman looked like she wanted the ground to swallow her up.

As they clambered about in their finest Primarni fashions. There might have been a top from Boots involved.

No issue at all if she's breastfeeding as the baby would have her immunity.

I also wonder what kind of smells we’re supposed to be protecting a baby from?

Smells, light - I’m learning so much on this thread!