One day old baby in pub

I don’t think 17 is necessarily too young at all. It certainly wasn’t the case when I was a teen, but many of todays teens are so molly coddled and unworldly that I think there are probably fewer young women who would make good mothers at that age than there used to be.

You have not convinced me. 17 is too young. What's done is done.

Ok.

Took mine scuba diving on the way home…we shared the mask. He loved it.

I think that’s a really sad outlook, assuming the girl wanted to have a baby. When I was that age, it was quite common to have children at 18, and many of our friends had completed their families by their early 20s. They were then able to have a lot more freedom in their 40s and 50s than most people now. One of my best friends at school for pregnant just before she turned 15. I’ve been in touch with her from time to time over the last 50 years and she’s had a very happy life. I remember her meeting the father of her baby when we were 14, and her telling me that they would stay together forever. She was right - they got married when she was 16, had a second baby when she was 17, and they were together and still very much in love until he died in his 60s. Once her children were at school, she was able to work part time and gradually increased her hours, and had a career that she really enjoyed. It was difficult for her when she was pregnant because girls were always expelled from our school in those days, but she still carried on studying and passed several O levels with good grades. I don’t think she would describe having a baby when she was very young as life limiting - she was, and still is, one of the happiest people I’ve ever known.

So?

This scenario is the first day

I'd feel gutted if my dd had got pregnant at 17 - gutted at how life-limiting it might be - she'd would have still been a child - insisting she doesn't go for lunch after giving birth won't result in her growing up any quicker - that will take years.
The PFB thing is a nonsense though, you are being very short sighted if you think the only reason to criticize something is because you felt judged about it. Those days are well behind me. We all know mum's who were very pfb - a nightmare to know even briefly- but I'm sure they select other parents with the same attitude as friends or they get over it, as they are insufferable.

You’re hilarious.

Ummm…that post is defending the 17yr old (and any other mother who wants to leave the house in the first month) from the judgement shown on this thread.

but surely they are precious first born? why so derogatory, unless you feel judged
i presume as a 17 year old mother she is going to face a lot of judgement
how would you all feel if she was your daughter?

The idea that a baby should be brought home to a house which is quiet, dimly lit and everyone speaks in hushed tones (and doesn’t come near baby if they’ve got a cold) is fucking hilarious if you’ve got one or more toddlers/young children already. When I brought my 4th baby home, the 3 children under 6 who already lived there didn’t get that memo!

She might. But she won’t be any more tired tomorrow, having been out today. You can’t store up rest. No amount of resting today can make up for having little sleep tonight.

An afternoon in a pub with a meal. No issues there. Id only be concerned if she was consuming multiple drinks to the point she couldn’t care for the baby. Even if breast feeding one drink is ok.

you’d be amazed how quickly you bounce back when you’re young. At 19 I went food shopping with dd1 the morning after she was born (traumatic birth and episiotomy). Same with dd2 at 22 on the way home from the hospital the day after a c section.

Financially it may not be great to have kids very young but physically it’s the best time.

Agree. A lot of this thread is judgy, unsubstantiated pfb nonsense.

My newborn was in no way harmed in the pram in the outdoor cafe as I imbibed a much-wanted cappuccino and croissant, nor in the pram as we passed through gasp public house on our way out to the gasp garden.

I didn’t know that fresh air and a happy mother was so bad for newborns.

Again, kindly, get a grip.

She will be tired tomorrow as one day old baby will be up a lot in the night.

I would just stay quiet to family members.

I went to a coffee shop the day after I’d given birth. We did a short walk, baby was in a carrier then we had coffee and cake. Can’t see that a pub is any different unless the parents were getting smashed.

eta I seem to recall our baby spent the whole time asleep. We could have been anywhere in the world and he wouldn’t have cared one bit.

Exactly, the whole ‘babies need to be in a quiet serene environment with uninterrupted 1-to-1 bonding time with mum’ is very much PFB territory. Not possible when you have a couple of toddlers to parent as well, life just has to go on.

To add this also has had no effect on any of my dcs. In fact they rarely get ill so their immune system clearly didn't take a battering.
They're all sociable and outgoing.
They were also all passed round , kissed by relatives .
No one smoked or drank alcohol anyway.

Have you had a baby?

Hospitals the number 1 place for catching something (the worst of anything with antibiotic resistance), Florescent lights on day and night, crowded wards, noisy machines, crying babies, passed around from nurse to nurse and prodded Dr by Dr and people waking you all hours of the day and night... yep that the place recommended for the most vulnerable of all babies.

How on earth could a fully healthy one possibly handle a quite meal in a pub.

We did with 3rd dc. Went to dh works on way home from hospital its was literally on route as he had to give them the keys back , labour was quick so didn't have time prior. They asked if we wanted breakfast they ordered food in for us.
We went home unpacked. It was a beautiful day so we went to a pub garden for carvery.
Was nice to sit and chill watch the world go by . Baby was fine in pram and still cared for.

But to add I'm not the type to just sit indoors. It would drive me insane would have tipped mh over the edge tbh.

My 1st I remember going to my parents after going home and felt trapped indoors after an hour. So we took a half hour stoll to see them.

2nd had 1am. Home 7am. Doing school run 8.15am then went to breakfast.

I was in Tesco when DD was about 6 hours old, and Dominos after that!

Years ago (22 years!) there was a tiny one day old baby in our local pub and the mum was smoking like a chimney all over her. I was pregnant at the time, sitting with my back to the family and hadn't said a word but her friend said something about me being pregnant (with regards to the smoke) and she nastily and loudly snarled "well the silly cow can move if she wants, I ain't stopping her". Charming.

So it could be a lot worse, at least pubs are smoke free now.

She’s 17, sounds like a proud mom. Although I can’t imagine many would do it.