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Aibu - really worried I’ve started a war

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joao2570 · 09/04/2025 21:06

so I met this woman I liked (we were both married). She was my therapist at the time and we ended up having a bit of a weird dynamic, nothing sexual happened but lines were definitely crossed, tbink whatsapping me hotels, trying to choose my nanny, wearing revealing clothing, asking me every week if I’d made my decision about leaving my husband, talking about trips we would take together etc. maybe we got a bit bffs maybe we were having an emotional affair. Idk.

My husband and I were in a very toxic relationship. He held me down and suffocated me. When I disclosed it to her, she encouraged me not to report and instead tried to help me to leave him on my terms - or so I thought.
It all came to a head. She had been encouraging me to take a trip away from my husband and children for my well-being. When I got back, my husband and I had another terrible fight and he really hurt me. I messaged her and got really angry with her. I told her I didn’t want her to be my therapist and blamed her for not reporting the initial violence. I said she had put me and my children at risk and threatened to report her. She apologised, said she had only been trying to help and then ghosted me.
A week or so later, I apologised and asked to see her again to sort it out (I felt like I’d blamed her for something that wasn’t really her fault). She ghosted me. I left my husbands, I tried to move on with my life and respected her wishes.

Five months later, she started popping up again in WhatsApp group chats (we are part of a small community, both our children were similar ages). One of them was a group for single mums. I just ignored her at first, thought she was just reintegrating in the community and tried to peacefully coexist.

Then she got weird. In a chat thread I’d already commented on, she posted about domestic violence, even though it hadn’t been explicitly mentioned. She encouraged someone to report domestic violence, the exact opposite of what she told me to do at the time. Unfortunately for her, it wasn’t in the vibe of the conversation and the other mothers shot her down. She ended up leaving this group in the end.

However she stayed in some other groups and then when my best friend asked for a recommendation, she told her to message her. This is when I snapped. I genuinely felt baited by this point - bff and I are publicly besties and everyone knows. There’s no way ex therapist couldn’t have.

I asked for a recommendation about something, framing it as a joke. I didn’t mention any names but it specifically pointed at something incriminating I knew she had done. Nobody else did and thought it was hilarious - I got a lot of laughing emoji reactions. I expected her to block me and leave the groups. She read the messages but didn’t do anything else.

My friend said that ex-therapist probably really liked me and wanted to check in on me. So I apologised and sent a very nice message to her, nothing incriminating, just offering peace and to clear the air if she wanted. She didn’t reply but on the same days is reading my group chat messages, as if to make a point of saying ‘I’m ignoring you.’ She hasn’t left groups, hasnt blocked me, hasnt sent a brief message saying ‘all good vibes let’s move on separately’ (which, considering the likelihood of bumping in to each other, imo would be the most professional thing to do).

Did I overreact in this situation? Have I been the asshole? Or was I justified? Do you think she will just ghost me again now or have I started a war? And am I being a complete drama llama about this whole thing in the first place?

OP posts:
EuclidianGeometryFan · 10/04/2025 07:40

WileyCyrus · 10/04/2025 06:20

I’m sorry you’ve been through what you have, and that you were given such poor - and potentially dangerous - advice about not going to the police.

However, I do think you need to continue to reflect on your own behaviours and attachments as your relationship with your cleaner sounds incredibly intense. She’s a cleaner who is paid to come to your home and clean. Yet you’ve described her as the most important woman in your life, as someone you’re very close with, that you fuss over her like a mother and so on…none of this is conventional and it sounds to me like you really need to seek out a decent, regulated therapist who can help you to work through these things. Your ex-therapist may have recognised you had a seemingly unhealthy attachment to your cleaner and suggesting alternatives may have been her clumsy way of trying to help you with this.

Whether intentionally or not, you’re trying to “smoke out” your previous therapist and goad her into some kind of reaction. It would be much healthier for you to focus on what your future will look like, and how you can proactively work towards peace and happiness.

It is entirely down to you how you choose to proceed with reporting the therapist. It seems boundaries were blurred in some respects that she could potentially talk her way out of, but advising you not to report violence in your marriage could’ve had horrific consequences. Seeking another therapist could really help you to talk this through.

I wish you luck, but do consider how you view your cleaner, as I’m concerned this could be a whole lot of other trouble just waiting to happen.

Edited

This.
OP, you need to find yourself another therapist. I hope you find someone who is professional, competent, and who doesn't cross boundaries.

StartAnew · 10/04/2025 07:36

joao2570 · 09/04/2025 22:28

No an actual bps therapist.

a bit shocked by everyone telling me to report. This woman has children. I don’t want to put them through this.

So do you want her to abuse other clients like this? She is way out of order. Reporting her won’t harm her children. It’ll mean either that she’ll have to get some training and therapy about keeping boundaries with clients, or have a career change.

Fioratourer · 10/04/2025 07:35

It sounds like she became over invested and had stepped into self disclosure with hotels etc. I would report it. Erotic transference can occur in the counselling room which may be why you were confused. You were vulnerable and her priority should have been your safety.

UnhappyAndYouKnowIt · 10/04/2025 07:31

A therapist can't stay in the same WhatsApp groups as a former client! That alone is a reason to be struck off.

Starlight7080 · 10/04/2025 07:26

It sounds like you both have crossed a lot of lines. You need to block and distance yourself. It's easy to not be in these Whatsapp groups . Life went along just fine before WhatsApp. You will cope.
And yes you do have to take some responsibility for staying with your ex h.
You new already she didn't have your best interests and even a good therapist is not responsible for the choices you make.
And no she isn't good at her job . But after witnessing the type of people on degree courses to be a therapist first hand then I suspect that a lot of them have very questionable moral codes .

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 10/04/2025 07:21

joao2570 · 09/04/2025 22:28

No an actual bps therapist.

a bit shocked by everyone telling me to report. This woman has children. I don’t want to put them through this.

Their mother should have thought of them before crossing all kinds of professional boundaries. She should definitely be reported.

MummyJ36 · 10/04/2025 07:09

I think you both lack boundaries OP.

However someone who has seen two therapists before I’m horrified at what you describe. I felt very close to my therapists but it was a professional relationship where I was paying them to listen to me. Paying them being the important bit. It was not an organic friendship and neither was yours. You need to keep reminding yourself of that. You were paying her money. And she overstepped a boundary.

Simplelobsterhat · 10/04/2025 06:44

It all sounds very unprofessional in her part, but also that you have been playing weird games on WhatsApp groups recently - stop engaging with her!

Can I check one thing though? Several people have commented about her persuading you not to leave your partner, and you seem to have agreed with them, but I thought you said she did want you to leave, it was reporting him she hasn't done, and I assumed the asking every week if you had left was because she thought you should?

I assume she should have reported either way for safeguarding, but persuading you to stay would be much worse again.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/04/2025 06:40

joao2570 · 10/04/2025 00:49

Thank you for all your comments, this has been very insightful. I am very confused about what happened and I definitely had become to think of ex therapist as a friend.

Im also very anxious from the divorce from my husband, it hasn’t been amicable so think I have been avoiding reporting due to the anxiety of having to face all of this.

i will report her tomorrow thank you 🙏

Good. I’m glad you’re going to report her. You will be in a position of power and that is where you want to be. Not to have power over people, rather to take back the power that you gave away to you stbexh and this ‘therapist’ woman.

WileyCyrus · 10/04/2025 06:20

I’m sorry you’ve been through what you have, and that you were given such poor - and potentially dangerous - advice about not going to the police.

However, I do think you need to continue to reflect on your own behaviours and attachments as your relationship with your cleaner sounds incredibly intense. She’s a cleaner who is paid to come to your home and clean. Yet you’ve described her as the most important woman in your life, as someone you’re very close with, that you fuss over her like a mother and so on…none of this is conventional and it sounds to me like you really need to seek out a decent, regulated therapist who can help you to work through these things. Your ex-therapist may have recognised you had a seemingly unhealthy attachment to your cleaner and suggesting alternatives may have been her clumsy way of trying to help you with this.

Whether intentionally or not, you’re trying to “smoke out” your previous therapist and goad her into some kind of reaction. It would be much healthier for you to focus on what your future will look like, and how you can proactively work towards peace and happiness.

It is entirely down to you how you choose to proceed with reporting the therapist. It seems boundaries were blurred in some respects that she could potentially talk her way out of, but advising you not to report violence in your marriage could’ve had horrific consequences. Seeking another therapist could really help you to talk this through.

I wish you luck, but do consider how you view your cleaner, as I’m concerned this could be a whole lot of other trouble just waiting to happen.

nomas · 10/04/2025 06:18

Is she a qualified psychiatrist?

She sounds terrible and I would report her what she did but I also think you need to stop contacting her for your own good. Im
not sure why your friend told you ‘she must really like you’. Your friend sounds like a bad or naive friend.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 10/04/2025 06:02

I'm a retired BACP therapist.

Her behaviour is appalling and completely unethical. If. She is breaking these boundaries I'm quite sure she is also acting unethically in other ways. She is dangerous. You should 100% report her. I don't see why her having children should have an influence on that?

Swiftie1878 · 10/04/2025 05:25

There is so much that is messed up about this. Start to finish.

SabreTiger · 10/04/2025 05:18

joao2570 · 10/04/2025 00:52

Because even if I do that she can still see my WhatsApp group messages and I can still see hers. I’m super worried about what she might be saying to people.

If she is speaking to people about you, this will reflect on her so negatively as a therapist.

If anything comes back to you, report it.

SabreTiger · 10/04/2025 05:14

I haven’t read all your responses however she crossed the line.

You as her patient/client were vulnerable and for you being able to open up parts of your life to someone “safe”, can sometimes lead to you caring a lot for this person. But it’s her job as the professional to uphold the boundaries and not go into the grey area.

Your situation and trust of her opinion put you and your children in more danger. She abused her position in your life.

Reporting her will put her in a position where she has to reflect on her behavior and handling of this situation. It may also save another vulnerable person from danger.

SpidersAreShitheads · 10/04/2025 03:37

ChompandaGrazia · 09/04/2025 23:53

It’s the say that she is like your daughter and then calling her hot. That’s really nasty. And what does her level of hotness have to do with her being a good cleaner. I think there is a lot going on with you being in a toxic relationship with a man but then lusting after your female therapist and cleaner!

I agree. It really comes across that the OP is attracted to women, even if that’s subconsciously.

I won’t repeat what others have said but everything about this is off. I can’t even imagine how you reached the point of messaging your therapist about another woman that you find attractive, raving about how special she is, just to see if you make your therapist jealous.

Reading between the lines here, there sounds like a lot of projection going on here but your therapist has made professional mistakes too. No one comes out of this well. Other than the cleaner 😂🤷‍♀️

ASimpleLampoon · 10/04/2025 03:27

joao2570 · 09/04/2025 22:28

No an actual bps therapist.

a bit shocked by everyone telling me to report. This woman has children. I don’t want to put them through this.

She abused you at a time you were vulnerable. She used her position to do so. She is a predator and needs reporting as other families could be at risk.

I am so sorry OP.

TheSlantedOwl · 10/04/2025 01:38

All very creepy.

Fraaances · 10/04/2025 01:07

If this woman was a boyfriend or husband, he’d be considered controlling, creepy and manipulative. She was your therapist and her advice was fucking dangerous AS WELL as breaching professional codes of conduct. Definitely needs to be reported.

joao2570 · 10/04/2025 00:52

BoredZelda · 10/04/2025 00:18

Why don’t you just block her on WhatsApp?

Because even if I do that she can still see my WhatsApp group messages and I can still see hers. I’m super worried about what she might be saying to people.

OP posts:
joao2570 · 10/04/2025 00:49

Thank you for all your comments, this has been very insightful. I am very confused about what happened and I definitely had become to think of ex therapist as a friend.

Im also very anxious from the divorce from my husband, it hasn’t been amicable so think I have been avoiding reporting due to the anxiety of having to face all of this.

i will report her tomorrow thank you 🙏

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GripGetter · 10/04/2025 00:45

findingnibbles · 09/04/2025 22:15

Clicked to check if it was Donald Trump posting.

Report her to the BACP.

Edited

Ha. me too!

joao2570 · 10/04/2025 00:45

valentinka31 · 10/04/2025 00:41

I don't understand what you mean by an emotional affair.

And clearly you'd both gone out of the therapist bubble if you were sending her photos of your cleaner. I find it a bit strange you thought your cleaner hot. So what is the point? That you think your friend wanted you to sack her because she was jealous? About you?

It all seems like so much supposition, and so subjective and potentially just wrong.

She doesn't sound like a therapist though. I think the normal protocol would be that if she's in your social life outside therapy then she'd have to say sorry, I can't be your therapist as we know each other outside of therapy, but I can be your friend.

Edited

She knew my cleaner before… like I said it’s a very small community. I never told her I thought my cleaner was hot and I never sent her photos. I jisy told her I was very attached to her, that she was the most importantly woman in my life and I didn’t know how I’d cope without her if I left my husband.

I mean an emotional affair as towards the end she started to feel more like my girlfriend than my therapist. But nothing sexual happened

OP posts:
valentinka31 · 10/04/2025 00:41

joao2570 · 09/04/2025 23:31

Ok so I agree, and I was doubting myself. So I sent her an email about how much I adored my cleaner (a very hot 20 something who is like my surrogate daughter) to see how she would react and she tried to get me to sack her. She’d found Nannie’s and cleaners and was sending them to me via WhatsApp. I’m not even sure I was attracted to her. I certainly adored her as a person and valued her support.

completely agree though that the other things are all explainable. That’s why I said specifically I wasn’t sure whether we’d gotten to bffs or had an emotional affair. I just knew the dynamic was weird

I don't understand what you mean by an emotional affair.

And clearly you'd both gone out of the therapist bubble if you were sending her photos of your cleaner. I find it a bit strange you thought your cleaner hot. So what is the point? That you think your friend wanted you to sack her because she was jealous? About you?

It all seems like so much supposition, and so subjective and potentially just wrong.

She doesn't sound like a therapist though. I think the normal protocol would be that if she's in your social life outside therapy then she'd have to say sorry, I can't be your therapist as we know each other outside of therapy, but I can be your friend.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 10/04/2025 00:31

Well done for leaving your husband.

Now block this woman and try not to engage in any more drama by making oblique facebook comments that are designed to inflame the situation.

Drama is not good for you.

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