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To think you don’t get out of paying the bill because you don’t drink?

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ThatHardyWaspAgain · 09/04/2025 19:58

I’m sure this has been done many times before by people in similar scenarios.

I went out for a bit of lunch with two friend’s and one of them brought another friend along that I’ve never met but was nice enough.

However, when it came to the bill, she said ‘’Can we please calculate it all with the alcohol you’ve had separately paid for? Because I only had classical cokes’’

So, we did as she asked. Added up everything but removed the drinks. So 3 of us paid for our drinks in a split, and then did another split for the rest with her and her food and classical colas.

The annoying bit is, she had 3 of them. And they weren’t really much different in price to most of our alcohol.

We all had the same roast and mango cheesecake.

I wouldn’t mind but she kept insisting we all had a dessert so she didn’t feel alone in having one. We’re adults after all but it is a bit annoying

Separate thread to come to see if I would be U to tell my friend not to bring her along again

She also didn’t tip.

OP posts:
knor · 10/04/2025 18:10

Honestly I think it’s fine for people to pay for what they had. Good friends (I know someone you didn’t know that well) would happily do this. Depends the difference also i think. If she had 3 cokes that came to £9 but you had a bottle of wine for £25, then you should pay more. Don’t think it’s about the alcohol, it’s about the cost difference. People have different situations - jobs, kids or no kids, mortgage free etc

Bikergran · 10/04/2025 18:07

I always pay for what I have eaten or drunk, and refuse to subsidise other people's drinks.

laraitopbanana · 10/04/2025 18:04

Gosh, there is just a lot of different ways and not only one is good.

she didn’t want to pay your alcohol and some might be ok with that, others find it annoying. It just seems that it annoyed you so she isn’t your cup of tea.

I think just leave it, don’t mention it, live with it it will be ok.

Daftypants · 10/04/2025 17:58

Huh ? I don’t drink either but she ought to pay for exactly what she had separately , then the remainder of the bill split between the rest of you 🤔
When I’ve been out for a meal the alcoholic drinks are always a lot more expensive than the soft drinks unless someone is ordering fancy mocktails , so she must’ve been guzzling loads of coke for it to be anywhere near the same price as the wine / cocktails / mixer drinks ?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 10/04/2025 17:48

Chiseltip · 10/04/2025 10:20

Tipping exists in certain industries for a reason.

Minimum wage means minimum effort. Fine if you're just stacking shelves at Asda. But people don't go to restaurants because they are hungry, they go there for the experience. Having a shelf stacker speak to you in a rude, sullen manner when you asked where the Beans are is understandable. But when you're paying £100 or more for meal in a restaurant, you expect more than minimum effort from the staff. A rude server can ruin the atmosphere. So tipping is an incentive for the restaurant staff to provide a level of service over and above what minimum wage would imply.

Why would any restaurant employ a rude server? They are paid to do the job that they're doing and do it adequately.

Tipping was needed pre-NMW but then again, it was needed by many people in industries that weren't part of the custom. Charge should be built in at the start, charge customers what you want and let them decide if they want to pay for it.

I will tip (very well) where service has been really excellent, I don't and won't otherwise. There really is no argument for it when other services don't get awarded this discretionary payment. People feel compelled and pressurised to pay it, even when there is no or very little service and so the cycle continues.

I won't criticise them for doing that but I'm not interested in doing that myself.

HamptonPlace · 10/04/2025 16:53

ThatHardyWaspAgain · 09/04/2025 19:58

I’m sure this has been done many times before by people in similar scenarios.

I went out for a bit of lunch with two friend’s and one of them brought another friend along that I’ve never met but was nice enough.

However, when it came to the bill, she said ‘’Can we please calculate it all with the alcohol you’ve had separately paid for? Because I only had classical cokes’’

So, we did as she asked. Added up everything but removed the drinks. So 3 of us paid for our drinks in a split, and then did another split for the rest with her and her food and classical colas.

The annoying bit is, she had 3 of them. And they weren’t really much different in price to most of our alcohol.

We all had the same roast and mango cheesecake.

I wouldn’t mind but she kept insisting we all had a dessert so she didn’t feel alone in having one. We’re adults after all but it is a bit annoying

Separate thread to come to see if I would be U to tell my friend not to bring her along again

She also didn’t tip.

What does a roast cheesecake taste like? You're not meaning a New York cheesecake?

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 16:20

But it seems the CF asked for only the alcohol to be taken off before the four-way split.

Literally maybe, according to OP.
But it’s quite strange to actually interpret that request so very literally, and even stranger to go ahead and do the split like that.

Cosyblankets · 10/04/2025 15:33

Whoever split the bill did it wrong.

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 15:25

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 13:05

Not at all.

For a start the voting is confusing as the OP puts two questions and we don’t know which one voters are answering.

‘AIBU to think you don’t get out of paying the bill because you don’t drink’
(most would vote yanbu to this I’d say)

or

‘to see if I would be U to tell my friend not to bring her along again’
(many would think think OP was unreasonable in this case as it is generally reasonable to ask to pay separately.)

Personally I think whoever split the bill was the one who messed up the calculations,
but it’s small change anyway in this particular case 🤷‍♀️

It is reasonable to ask to pay separately. But it seems the CF asked for only the alcohol to be taken off before the four-way split. Of course OP could have refused, but perhaps in the moment didn't realise how much the CF had spent.

It wasn't small change: the CF got £7.50 off her drinks bill.

I agree there are at least two AIBUs here.

One. ....to think that the prices were so close that we might just as well have gone for a straight four-way split (debatable, but not crazy)

Two. ...to think that, whilst I'm happy to sub non-drinkers to a modest extent, she was taking the piss by expecting us to pay an extra £7.50, particularly as she wasn't willing to sub us even to a modest extent.. YANBU surely?

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 15:05

I've never been to a restaurant where they haven't accepted several different forms of payment as long as the overall amount is paid.

I have.

lazycats · 10/04/2025 15:05

Christ, 3 cokes in a single sitting is like a week’s worth of recommended sugar. Probably far more unhealthy than a single alcoholic drink

latetothefisting · 10/04/2025 15:03

Sunbeam01 · 09/04/2025 21:12

A lot of places say they cannot accommodate that or waiting staff look nervous (students etc) or waiting staff accommodate but then triple check everything so it all comes out together which is cumbersome and can be awkward.

The food still arrives at different times.

The bill arrives with questions and more triple checking.

There should be a very simple system whereby the kitchen receives it all as one order and you can just pay for your own meal and drinks at the end. No fuss.

There should be a very simple system whereby the kitchen receives it all as one order and you can just pay for your own meal and drinks at the end. No fuss.

There is? It's called "work it out yourself." Pretty much everywhere I've ever eaten out over the last few decades we've done it this way. Bill arrives for £100, person one ate £20 worth of food so pays £20, person 2 ate £30 worth so pays £30, people 3 and 4 ate £25 worth's each so pay that each (simplified example).

I've no idea why so many people seem to think this is so hard, inconvenient or awkward (or "sad" as the poster above has called it!), when it should just be the norm. You wouldn't subsidise other people's purchases in any other scenario - if you and your friend were both shopping and she bought an £80 coat and you a £100 one you wouldn't say "oh let's just pay £90 each".

It's not as if anyone carries personal calculators with them at all times that make it simple...oh wait, they do, all phones have this feature!

I've never been to a restaurant where they haven't accepted several different forms of payment as long as the overall amount is paid.

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 15:02

They asked not to pay for the alcohol we drank but happily allowed us to split their mock tail cost between the 5 of us.

But why didn’t you all just split the bill properly instead of seething for years about it?
I mean, you didn’t have to split the mocktail cost between 5…who worked that out?😅

neonjumper · 10/04/2025 14:02

Yanbu . I experienced something similar. Went out as a group of 5. Four of us had £15 worth of wine per person , the fifth person had 3 mocktails totalling £36. They asked not to pay for the alcohol we drank but happily allowed us to split their mock tail cost between the 5 of us.

it was a couple of years before the four us realised we were individually seething over it .

Sadly when we go out with this person we individually pay for what we have eaten and drank.

Anotherparkingthread · 10/04/2025 13:13

My partner doesn't drink at all, I like a glass of wine or a couple of beers sometimes.

I always pay for my own drinks, on our food shop and at bars, as it's not on him to buy me alcohol. He will do a round with our friends occasionally at the pub, and he covers wine on dates etc if we go to a restaurant, but generally when we go out with friends we each pay for what we had.

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 13:05

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 11:22

44% seem to think that.

Not at all.

For a start the voting is confusing as the OP puts two questions and we don’t know which one voters are answering.

‘AIBU to think you don’t get out of paying the bill because you don’t drink’
(most would vote yanbu to this I’d say)

or

‘to see if I would be U to tell my friend not to bring her along again’
(many would think think OP was unreasonable in this case as it is generally reasonable to ask to pay separately.)

Personally I think whoever split the bill was the one who messed up the calculations,
but it’s small change anyway in this particular case 🤷‍♀️

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 11:22

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 11:13

Nobody thinks that though.

Whoever split the bill here made a mess of it 😁

44% seem to think that.

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 11:13

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 10:11

Who are all these mad people, who think that, if you have soft drinks, all the people at the table drinking alcohol, should pay for their own drinks and also club together to pay for your drinks? I'm sensing some animus towards drinkers here, but this is ridiculous.

Nobody thinks that though.

Whoever split the bill here made a mess of it 😁

Clementorangeade · 10/04/2025 11:09

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/04/2025 09:30

I have, recently, and I was surprised.
There were 3 of us and they said they could only split the bill in two, not any further.

That's normal, usually one person pays and we transfer or bring cash to pay the person.

Yes, we often do this too, but I was replying to pp who suggested every restaurant will accommodate paying using multiple cards. Many will, but not all.

I did think they would allow 3 people to pay separately, but this particular restaurant wouldn’t.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 10/04/2025 10:39

Whoever added up the bill made the mistake. It doesn't seem like it was intentionally done, best to calculate exactly what you had.
Lesson learnt..

SwanOfThoseThings · 10/04/2025 10:35

With all the splitting of different bits of the bill you were doing, since there were only four of you, I should think it would have been quicker for you each to pay for exactly what you had.

user2848502016 · 10/04/2025 10:30

I think you should have paid for what you had in that scenario because a coke isn’t exactly free.

Streaaa · 10/04/2025 10:27

You all sound very passive.
No one would get most people to eat something they didn't want.
As for paying for her cokes?
Sorry, but you are mugs.
She's just another CF, and you got stung.

holrosea · 10/04/2025 10:24

I don't drink and splitting the food/drinks bill separately has never been a problem.

If it is a 2-4 person dinner and everyone has had a drink, I don't mind a simple split as some soft drinks or mocktails cost the same as a "proper" drink anyway, and what's a couple of quid between friends?

If we are a larger group and multiple alcoholic drinks or a couple of bottles of wine have been ordered, we split the food by number of people and I just pay my part plus my soft drinks. They split the alcohol between them.

It sounds like only the alcoholic drinks were taken off the bill, but if you are splitting by drinkers/non-drinkers, all drinks should be taken off the bill and paid for separately, IMO.

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 10:20

fromthegecko · 10/04/2025 10:11

Who are all these mad people, who think that, if you have soft drinks, all the people at the table drinking alcohol, should pay for their own drinks and also club together to pay for your drinks? I'm sensing some animus towards drinkers here, but this is ridiculous.

Too late to edit, but...it would have made sense if the non-drinker was designated driver. But she wasn't, I assume.

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