Who does these things?

You make these broad generalisations having lived all over the US and all over the UK?

teenagers are not expected to be a feral, boozy, separate species

Where on earth did you get the idea that teenagers in the UK are expected to be those things?

I live in the US and find it a far more community-minded society than the UK. People know their neighbours and are generally friendly, generous, and helpful. They shovel snow for the elderly and arrive on your doorstep with casseroles and salads and plates of cookies when you move in or when you have a baby. They are also more polite and less inclined to swear than Brits, and teenagers are not expected to be a feral, boozy, separate species from the rest of humanity.

Where I live, you see hardly any litter and any graffiti that appears is power washed asap by a streets and san team. People volunteer for all sorts of charity endeavours, and are willing to pay high local taxes to support the services run by the local government.

Are these questions going to go on much longer? 😂 just say what you want to say

We need a vomit emoticon for that....

Dog poo is wildly out of control these days.

I always buy the Andrex 16s or 24s when they are on offer. I always do a big monthly shop where we juat do fridge and bread top-ups, and had an Ocado order ready with 2 * 16s at the start of the pandemic because they were on offer. Websites then went crazy so I was able to add to my order, but couldn't check it out or risk losing what I had, and lots of people said shopping was turning up with half the stuff missing, so I tacked on some tins, freezable veg, and crackers. Then everything showed up, so we had even more than the usual big order and I probably looked like I was hoarding. I'm always stocked though, so it was not much more than our normal.

I was still able to buy loo roll and other bits for DP, PIL and DA when I set up their deliveries for them (they usually all went in person), it wasn't a real shortage. I didn't get loads, but they all got a packet in case it was needed alongside milk, veg, etc. I had an office supplies company send loo rolls, milk and chocolates to care homes a friend worked with; we all ordered meat from restaurant distributors who were closed, and the friend was getting bulk hand gel from a gin distiller, plus masks from a car manufacturer... logistics was all a bit random. Strange days.

I once saw a group of kids reaching into a poo bin, grabbing bags and throwing them into nearby trees. They scarpered as soon as they saw me coming but it did make me think differently with seeing some bags hanging in trees near poo bins. 🤢

Wld you mind if pple hung full bags on your garden hedge or fence?

I bought bog roll and I'm not going to apologise for that. Nobody knew what would happen to supply chains during lockdown (there was a continuous and long one where I live, and it was properly enforced). And in fact, when I went out months later to get more after the initial stock was used up, you could only buy a certain amount at a time, and some supermarkets had weird and inferior quality stock for sale.

I already had a nice stash of non perishable and frozen food because we get harsh winters here (polar vortex events). I just topped that up.

Local schools were also well prepared - free lunches continued to be distributed in the form of weekly non perishable bags for students that were picked up outside the schools and at other distribution centers, schools sourced ipads and chromebooks for all the thousands of local students, broadband was installed for homes that didnt have it already on the public school districts' dime, and teachers personally dropped off worksheet and writing supply packets for students to use while remote teaching was trained and the tech aspects were ironed out (this took about two weeks). School gyms were converted into socially distanced learning spaces for kids whose parents were essential workers. Free meals were available for all those kids.

There's a lot of virtue in being organised and well prepared.

Well obviously not? I wouldn’t do it if I did

I work on a farm that is also open to the public as a tourist /educational/charitable facility. We have signs all over asking people to ‘please don’t hang bagged dog poo on fences-it’s a crazy thing to do’ as the problem got so bad. What did I find on the fence next to one of these signs this morning? I beg of you.

Do you mind the impact it has on the environment or others?

People who park on the pavements meaning that people in wheelchairs, mobility vehicles, with prams or with limited vision really struggle to get past. It also damages the pavement and primarily affects the same groups. Selfish, inconsiderate bastards.

People in public places and spaces with their devices on speaker/without headphones. We don't want to hear it.

I just forget

Why do you do it?

Yes, do you always collect them on your way back?

And do you not think it would be more considerate to just keep hold of them till you get to a bin, so others aren’t exposed to your dog’s shit?

I mean I feel that I didn’t change my toilet roll buying habits because of Covid.

(I changed them because of Brexit)

after Brexit I was worried about shortages of things getting into the UK and I decided it would be a good idea to set up an store of stuff.

so instead of having in a pack of toilet rolls, I bought a box of ten packs off Amazon and rebought when I opened the pack.

i also ordered 25kg bags of rice and big catering packs of pasta and tomatoes, and ordered some water bottles so that if the water went off we’d have some drinking water.

we already had an acre in the garden and I made part of it into a fruit and veg allotment and also started growing herbs.

so when Covid hit I just kept buying like I normally would - down to only one 25kg sack of rice, order a now one, down to the last ten box of packs of toilet rolls order a new one.

i actually didn’t change what I was buying really at all because between the garden and the prep store we were pretty well sorted.

(I was clinically vulnerable so dh did the shopping anyway)

I am! Do you have any questions about it?

I think the poo bag hangers are lazy teens who had to walk the family dog or reluctant poo pickets who would leave it if they could get away with it

@AquaPeer you sound very defensive. You wouldn't happen to be a poo bag hanger yourself, would you? 🤔

I don't know the answers OP but maybe they are the same people who throw entire takeaway bags of empty McDonald's onto the road outside our house.

I'm sure if we do a Venn diagram they would also play games or music without headphones on public transport and use the priority seats on trains.

Sadly we seem to be aping the US in moving towards a totally me first society.

It says it all when the wealthiest country in the world elects a leader like Trump because he whips up hated of anyone not like him and tells America it deserves yet more of everything.

No , you're a correct - you only have to visit places like Denmark or Japan to get an idea how beautifully clean a place can be, with so little effort.
I'm not saying we should all adapt to the Japanese model because I'm too nonconformist for that but just a slight change in mindset would do wonders.

The problem today is individuals putting themselves above community. We live in a community therefore leaving unpleasant smells and rubbish around isn't acceptable. Of course sometimes it can't be helped. I accept there are exceptional cases. Generally speaking though...

Who are the people who empty children’s potties in the car park at my local park? Human poo is no different to dog poo - put it in the bin (or, you know, the toilet which is 25m away)
twice now my delightful Labradustbin has eaten a full sized human poo just left in the hedgerow that Demarks the carpark. Absolutely revolting.

It’s got nothing to do with being disgusted, be disgusted all you want. What you don’t do is ask someone to explain themselves on a forum then dive in to deride them for their explanation

Sure but I didn't say anything cruel or derisory. I'm not a bully type so don't understand why someone would call names or be insulting . I can understand it may be annoying and hurtful but I was not part of it in any way shape or form. I'm not like that . I'm sorry people have said unpleasant things to you .

My concern is about the environment and the fact we are part of society and what matters is making it pleasant for everyone to live in. I guess I was wanting to understand the dog poo thing as it doesn't make sense to me why other dog owners wouldn't just wait until they could bin it .

Fly tipping Is awful but it's expensive paying for council to take things away. I'm disabled physically and don't have a car or access to a tip. I don't fly tip myself but I can see why people do it. Not saying it's right .