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Who is unreasonable re fuel?

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Washinginthesun · 08/04/2025 11:54

Genuinely not sure.
I drive to uni every day. My friend usually lives on campus but is at home this week.
She’s asked me for a lift. She lives on the next street.
Obviously I said yes but asked if she’d split fuel costs for the journeys. She says I’m being unreasonable as I’d be going anyway. I’ve always contributed fuel money if someone gives me a lift somewhere.
We’re at a bit of a stalemate.

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Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 16:39

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 16:16

Yep, sure you have been on private planes....😂

Many times. You're probably unfamiliar with the different types of private planes and imagining something completely inaccurate, but thats because your only experience is from fiction 🤷‍♀️

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 16:16

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 14:06

Oh sweetie. I've been on private planes....the owner would never be crass enough to demand payment from friends, or accept it.

What kind of friend are you, demanding payments for favours? I cab just imagine your neighbour asking for a cup.of sugar....you weighing it out and charging, plus a deposit on the cup!

JFC. Some people. No idea how to behave at all.

Yep, sure you have been on private planes....😂

honeybeetheoneandonly · 11/04/2025 15:12

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 14:06

Oh sweetie. I've been on private planes....the owner would never be crass enough to demand payment from friends, or accept it.

What kind of friend are you, demanding payments for favours? I cab just imagine your neighbour asking for a cup.of sugar....you weighing it out and charging, plus a deposit on the cup!

JFC. Some people. No idea how to behave at all.

Presumably you were asked to join them on their private plane. You didn't just approach them and ask whether they could give you a lift to NYC on their private plane for the weekend and then you would join them back at the airport to fly you home but you wouldn't be contributing financially, since they had already planned/paid to go to NYC on their private plane that weekend anyway. Can you really not see an issue with that?

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 14:06

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 11:59

Validation, as if it were needed, that you endorse CF'ery and self entitlement.

🤦‍♂️

JFC. Some people.

Oh sweetie. I've been on private planes....the owner would never be crass enough to demand payment from friends, or accept it.

What kind of friend are you, demanding payments for favours? I cab just imagine your neighbour asking for a cup.of sugar....you weighing it out and charging, plus a deposit on the cup!

JFC. Some people. No idea how to behave at all.

FreddysFingers · 11/04/2025 13:58

I think if you're friends, a token gesture such as a Costa coffee or Mcdonalds coffee or something would suffice, but only if they insisted on paying me. I wouldn't ask for money.

wombat15 · 11/04/2025 13:58

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 11:59

Validation, as if it were needed, that you endorse CF'ery and self entitlement.

🤦‍♂️

JFC. Some people.

We are not talking about what the friend should do. We are talking about what OP should do. I'm not sure how not charging friends for doing favours which cost nothing (OP is going there anyway) is endorsing CF.

BIossomtoes · 11/04/2025 13:00

Indeed. Some people. It would never occur to me to ask for money for a journey I was doing anyway.

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 11:59

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 11:08

In a friends private plane when they were going there anyway and there were empty seats....no I wouldn't expect to pay.
Would you?

Validation, as if it were needed, that you endorse CF'ery and self entitlement.

🤦‍♂️

JFC. Some people.

faerietales · 11/04/2025 11:23

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:05

I think there are far too many people on this thread that think the world owes them something.

Pay your own way you stingy scroungers.

No-one owes you anything. Not lending you something they have paid for (you're not wearing it) staying at their house in a tourist destination (we so wanted to come and see you), not minding your kids (it's an emergency) or having lifts in their car (you're going there anyway)

Friends are not there to be exploited

Yep, friends aren’t there to be exploited - so don’t demand money off for them for a journey you’re doing anyway 👍

faerietales · 11/04/2025 11:21

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 11:06

The fact the OP asked for money suggests otherwise.

🙄

Well, it’s not the kind of friendship I can relate to, thankfully. I genuinely can’t imagine thinking “Jane needs a lift for a few days, I won’t help her out unless she hands over some cash though”.

lazycats · 11/04/2025 11:14

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:11

@lazycats How could I possibly be describing the driver?

A scrounger, thinking the world owes them something…

(Yes, it’s a joke, let’s not be tediously literal.)

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:11

@lazycats How could I possibly be describing the driver?

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:10

Good luck with getting a free seat on the private plane. 😂

lazycats · 11/04/2025 11:10

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:05

I think there are far too many people on this thread that think the world owes them something.

Pay your own way you stingy scroungers.

No-one owes you anything. Not lending you something they have paid for (you're not wearing it) staying at their house in a tourist destination (we so wanted to come and see you), not minding your kids (it's an emergency) or having lifts in their car (you're going there anyway)

Friends are not there to be exploited

I assume you’re describing the driver in this scenario

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:09

No. The person being pressured into giving something that they have not offered is not entitled. They owe nothing.

The person taking something is entitled. They need to stop scrounging and pay their way.

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 11:08

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 10:48

Nothing "equally" about it.

If the OP travelled alone, thats a cost the OP absorbs.

OPs friend however, gets a free ride for no cost. Is that equal?

Would you expect to travel free on a flight just because someone else paid £10k or more for a first class seat/ergo subsidise you?

No, you pay for your own seat - despite the fact the plane is going to the same place.

🙄

In a friends private plane when they were going there anyway and there were empty seats....no I wouldn't expect to pay.
Would you?

Flutterbyby · 11/04/2025 11:07

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:05

I think there are far too many people on this thread that think the world owes them something.

Pay your own way you stingy scroungers.

No-one owes you anything. Not lending you something they have paid for (you're not wearing it) staying at their house in a tourist destination (we so wanted to come and see you), not minding your kids (it's an emergency) or having lifts in their car (you're going there anyway)

Friends are not there to be exploited

Yes, the drivers trying to charge friends for the odd lift. Entitled or what?
You are correct, friends are not there to be exploited, so don't charge them for the odd ride when you're going anyway.

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 11:06

faerietales · 11/04/2025 11:03

Friendship isn’t a business transaction 🙄

The fact the OP asked for money suggests otherwise.

🙄

user1471538275 · 11/04/2025 11:05

I think there are far too many people on this thread that think the world owes them something.

Pay your own way you stingy scroungers.

No-one owes you anything. Not lending you something they have paid for (you're not wearing it) staying at their house in a tourist destination (we so wanted to come and see you), not minding your kids (it's an emergency) or having lifts in their car (you're going there anyway)

Friends are not there to be exploited

faerietales · 11/04/2025 11:03

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 10:48

Nothing "equally" about it.

If the OP travelled alone, thats a cost the OP absorbs.

OPs friend however, gets a free ride for no cost. Is that equal?

Would you expect to travel free on a flight just because someone else paid £10k or more for a first class seat/ergo subsidise you?

No, you pay for your own seat - despite the fact the plane is going to the same place.

🙄

Friendship isn’t a business transaction 🙄

lazycats · 11/04/2025 10:50

You’re going there anyway and she’s only asked for a lift for a few days, so yes, asking for fuel money is Scrooge levels of miserliness. The replies egging you on are insane and I doubt most of them would actually expect such a payment if it was them.

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 10:48

wombat15 · 11/04/2025 09:49

Equally, what would op have done if not giving the friend a lift? Answer is nothing different as she is going anyway. The friend is stingy to not offer but asking for money in this circumstance is just as bad.

Nothing "equally" about it.

If the OP travelled alone, thats a cost the OP absorbs.

OPs friend however, gets a free ride for no cost. Is that equal?

Would you expect to travel free on a flight just because someone else paid £10k or more for a first class seat/ergo subsidise you?

No, you pay for your own seat - despite the fact the plane is going to the same place.

🙄

faerietales · 11/04/2025 09:59

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 09:04

As I said upthread:

WTF would this "friend" have done if the OP wasnt going?

Thats right - she would have to fucking PAY to get there.

So she can PAY the OP too.

Nothing in this world is free. OPs friend should pay or fuck off/make her own travel arrangements.

Christ, I’m glad I don’t know anyone who behaves like this in real life.

I would always offer a lift to someone going the same way as me - and my friends would do the same in return. There is no way in the is planet any of us would demand payment for it either.

If it was going to a permanent arrangement lasting weeks or months, then yes, maybe payment alike be sorted, but for a few days as a one off? Absolutely not.

wombat15 · 11/04/2025 09:49

HelplessSoul · 11/04/2025 09:04

As I said upthread:

WTF would this "friend" have done if the OP wasnt going?

Thats right - she would have to fucking PAY to get there.

So she can PAY the OP too.

Nothing in this world is free. OPs friend should pay or fuck off/make her own travel arrangements.

Equally, what would op have done if not giving the friend a lift? Answer is nothing different as she is going anyway. The friend is stingy to not offer but asking for money in this circumstance is just as bad.

Manthide · 11/04/2025 09:37

I used to give a friend a lift to and from work the 3 days I worked. Work started at 6am. The other days she walked and generally someone else gave her a lift part of the way home. I never thought to ask for any money, she lived in my road and she never offered. It was a real pain though as she was always late and sometimes she'd get a lift homr from someone else and not tell me and I'd be waiting for her. I am relieved she has moved jobs and house.
I think your friend should have offered something but for just a week I wouldn't have insisted. A regular thing, for such a long journey I would request splitting the fuel costs.

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