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To think it is okay for DS (8) to stop swimming lessons now?

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NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 19:33

As he can swim well, and is doing lots of other activities that we are struggling to juggle. DH and I both work full time, and he already does activities during the week, we need a couple of nights where we don't have to finish early to get to a club to keep up with work commitments.

DS still would like to go as he enjoys it but I've said we can just go swimming at the weekend as we often do (our local centres don't do lessons on a Sunday which is our free weekend day)

And on Saturday he does football (winter) and cricket (summer) which he does not want to stop. I've said if he wants to continue with his Wednesday evening swimming lessons then he needs to drop either Tuesday football training (his favourite), martial arts (Thursday), or Cricket coaching (Friday). He loves all of these.

We will still take DS2 (6) to lessons on a Saturday as he cannot yet swim competently, and he doesn't do as much other stuff as DS1.

He loves swimming but loves the other stuff more. AIBU to say the mid-week evening lessons are not sustainable?

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Tbrh · 08/04/2025 00:38

NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:26

He has had lots of lessons in his clothes over the past few years? I think they do that from quite an early stage as part of the lifesaving skills.

Oh that's great then. Why don't you have a chat to the swimming instructor and see what they say in terms of stopping the lessons, they are probably the best ones placed to give advice

Eenameenadeeka · 08/04/2025 00:00

I think you're absolutely fine to stop. There's so much pressure on parents these days for kids to have all these activities. You said you're both trying to work full time, and something has to give. You've offered the option with his other activities and he can safely swim.

Fordian · 07/04/2025 23:58

I’ve cut to the end from the OP- soz! 🤣 DS2, 8, was not great as a swimmer. We were going to Oz to see family so thought it’d be good if he could at least save himself in a pool. Cost us £50 per 1m, we reckoned.🤣 1:1 tutoring.

Back in Oz, I had mum-friends who’s 3 year kids could swim the length of their backyard pool. Mine absolute couldn’t have swum ours!

Anyway, all good in Oz on our holiday, but what swung it was 2 years later, getting a villa with a pool in Mallorca. Boys always supervised, of course, but that was where they nailed ‘how to swim’.

An aside, I hate how swimming immediately becomes competitive. Child likes swimming? Squad! Faster, faster, faster! No ‘Just enjoy’.

Runnersandtoms · 07/04/2025 23:52

Wibblywobblybobbly · 07/04/2025 23:42

Not everywhere. Our council lessons are cheap and if you're not too fussy on times you can sign up straight away. Maybe a slightly longer wait if you want a specific time or teacher but even then we've never waited long. We pay just over £30 a month which covers 50 swimming lessons a year plus unlimited leisure swimming.

£360 a year per child, for years and years doesnt sound cheap to me at all!

Runnersandtoms · 07/04/2025 23:50

I'm astounded that so many people continue shelling out for swimming lessons long after the child can swim. The RNLI and others promote floating to save your life if in danger in water, NOT swimming. So the only life-skill kids need is floating. There is no plausible reason kids NEED to know how to swim butterfly, or do perfect front crawl technique etc unless they plan to swim competitively.

But the swimming lesson industry has done a brilliant job of persuading middle class parents they have to spend a fortune on swimming lessons for years and years. Taking your kids swimming and letting them enjoy the water is so much more beneficial for their confidence. My kids are all teens who swim regularly and confidently in the sea and pool having had only the bare minimum of lessons. They don't have perfect technique but it has no adverse effect on them.

Wibblywobblybobbly · 07/04/2025 23:42

TheWickerHare · 07/04/2025 20:49

Council lessons always have extremely long waiting lists, so therefore disadvantaged children are more likely to not learn to swim

Not everywhere. Our council lessons are cheap and if you're not too fussy on times you can sign up straight away. Maybe a slightly longer wait if you want a specific time or teacher but even then we've never waited long. We pay just over £30 a month which covers 50 swimming lessons a year plus unlimited leisure swimming.

Wibblywobblybobbly · 07/04/2025 23:34

GoatCatTaco · 07/04/2025 20:14

My 15 year old still can't float.
He can, however, tread water, and swim half a km, and has better freestyle than me.
I can just about still beat him in a breaststroke race tho!

So, according to that article, he fails their standards. Fair or not?

Yes. Fair that it's a fail because floating is a key survival skill which can save your life when you get swept out to sea and have no energy left to swim.

FairlyTired · 07/04/2025 23:29

Iloveeverycat · 07/04/2025 20:22

swimming is a life skill
If swimming is a life skill children should get free swimming lessons. I couldn't afford swimming lessons or to take my children swimming.

They do, it's part of the primary curriculum. However it's a very small amount to cover the basics, as like with brushing teeth and teaching about appropriate relationships, and many other things, schools can't fully take over parents responsibilities.

NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:26

Tbrh · 07/04/2025 20:52

Swimming is an important skill, I think also though its being realistic in terms of survival skills as a pool is nothing like being in danger. Swimming is freezing temperatures, being disoriented, in your clothes etc. That's not to say kids shouldn't be having lessons.

He has had lots of lessons in his clothes over the past few years? I think they do that from quite an early stage as part of the lifesaving skills.

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fashionqueen0123 · 07/04/2025 23:24

NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:19

Just looked up Stage 7 and yes, he is passed that stage.

DS2 (age 6) is only around stage 3-4 though, which has made me realise DS1 was much more competent at a much younger age even though we haven’t done anything differently….

I would have said no at age 8, but now knowing if he’s that good I’d say ok yes you could stop.

NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:24

He loves swimming in the sea (only allowed with us and when it’s calm and also between lifeguard points), I appreciate this is not the situation that people usually get into danger.

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fashionqueen0123 · 07/04/2025 23:24

Lovegame · 07/04/2025 20:53

They still need to be paid for by parents.

They should be free as it’s part of the curriculum.

NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:19

Just looked up Stage 7 and yes, he is passed that stage.

DS2 (age 6) is only around stage 3-4 though, which has made me realise DS1 was much more competent at a much younger age even though we haven’t done anything differently….

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NameChangedSummer1 · 07/04/2025 23:10

Thanks all. Re stage he does Better Swim School and is in the ‘Academy’ stage. He does the standard strokes well and 400m easily, though 800m is a bit much. His dive looks fine to me.

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kalso · 07/04/2025 21:04

If he enjoys it I wouldn't stop. Quite a few parents at our dcs school have after school nannies to ferry them to clubs, it could be just a student a few nights a week, so you could consider that? It's hard work doing the ferrying but for us we see it as a limited period, as they will be able to travel independently by public transport at secondary age.

CatamaranViper · 07/04/2025 21:01

My DS(8) has nearly finished stage 6 but hes going to keep going until he passes stage 7 at least. I'd like him to do more by his age I could already dive and swim much further than he can.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 07/04/2025 20:54

Iloveeverycat · 07/04/2025 20:22

swimming is a life skill
If swimming is a life skill children should get free swimming lessons. I couldn't afford swimming lessons or to take my children swimming.

Well, no. Food is a necessity, but that's not free!

Tbrh · 07/04/2025 20:53

GoatCatTaco · 07/04/2025 20:14

My 15 year old still can't float.
He can, however, tread water, and swim half a km, and has better freestyle than me.
I can just about still beat him in a breaststroke race tho!

So, according to that article, he fails their standards. Fair or not?

Floating is an essential skill because if you're stuck, swimming might not help you, and you will wear yourself out so that's why he would fail those standards which makes perfect sense

Lovegame · 07/04/2025 20:53

Dramatic · 07/04/2025 20:45

They do at school

They still need to be paid for by parents.

Lovegame · 07/04/2025 20:52

SnakebitesandSambucas · 07/04/2025 20:32

@Iloveeverycat most councils offer free swimming cards to under 18yr olds. Might be worth a look. Also council pools tend to be cheaper for swimming lessons

Not in our area.

Strawberries86 · 07/04/2025 20:52

Just turned 8 year old dd is just going into stage 6. No way in hell is she stopping anytime soon. Il review on a yearly basis.

Tbrh · 07/04/2025 20:52

Swimming is an important skill, I think also though its being realistic in terms of survival skills as a pool is nothing like being in danger. Swimming is freezing temperatures, being disoriented, in your clothes etc. That's not to say kids shouldn't be having lessons.

CarpetKnees · 07/04/2025 20:51

Like others, I think it depends on your definition of 'swim well'.

I do agree that you need to cut down so that you and your dh can actually get your jobs done, and I think he should have input into which it is he cuts out.

Personally, I'd be encouraging him to keep swimming up over most other things. If he's only doing one session a week, I'm going to presume he's not swimming for a club. Being a strong swimmer gives so much access to other things as a teen, from social swims with friends, to all sorts of boating activities.

TheWickerHare · 07/04/2025 20:49

SnakebitesandSambucas · 07/04/2025 20:32

@Iloveeverycat most councils offer free swimming cards to under 18yr olds. Might be worth a look. Also council pools tend to be cheaper for swimming lessons

Council lessons always have extremely long waiting lists, so therefore disadvantaged children are more likely to not learn to swim

Dramatic · 07/04/2025 20:45

Iloveeverycat · 07/04/2025 20:22

swimming is a life skill
If swimming is a life skill children should get free swimming lessons. I couldn't afford swimming lessons or to take my children swimming.

They do at school