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Was my boyfriend within his rights to say these cruel things to me?

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meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:19

This may be long, but I’ll try and keep it short.

I have spent this morning extremely distressed, I’m questioning everything including my worth. I feel like a waste of space, from what he had said. I’m too upset to see the situation for what it is.

BF and I had been a bit on and off, but decided to make this official and things had been pretty much smooth sailing from then. We had one argument, that was resolved after we both agreed it was a misunderstanding.

We’ve had very minor disagreements, but no arguments aside from that until yesterday.

He makes significantly more than me, this around 5x more. We don’t live together. He tends to pay for meals out etc. and likes to treat me with things like flowers, but I have never asked for him to pay for anything. I do also pay for myself for other things too.

When we were shopping he had separated our things and said ‘I’ll put your things separately’ referring to the ingredients for our dinner that I was going to cook. He usually eats the majority of our meals (understandably), so I was slightly irritated by this and told him that, but it wasn’t a big deal.

The next day, he made a lemon drizzle cake with my son (he paid for the ingredients) and said he was going to take it home, since he had paid for it and had baked it. I had pointed out this feels like a bit of a double standard, a bit irritating but again not a big deal. He says that he pays for a lot of things for me, I agreed. He then said he spends about £200 per month on me, for which I categorically disagreed. He said he wasn’t going to buy me anything again.

A few minutes later I asked how long until the cake was done, he told me and I said ok when it’s finished you can leave. I was upset and didn’t want him there.

I heard a bang as he left, and I thought he had thrown my son’s car seat into the house, I text him to say it was childish but he says he didn’t throw it and I believe him.

He sent me a text saying that until I apologise, not to contact him. I said I won’t be contacting him then as I don’t feel the needs to apologise, he said ok. I took this as things ending. I then said something along the lines of ‘enjoy fucking the ladies in Thailand’ (I’m not proud of this) as he’s going there this week. I have been feeling stressed about him going as he went last year, and we weren’t together but still somewhat involved and he slept with many people and lied to me about having feeling for another woman. He was well within his rights to do so, as he was single, but it was a point of vulnerability for me. I feel bad that I even said it, and have apologised more than once.

He said he wasn’t ending things, and then ignored me for six hours while he was with friends, I was really upset by this.

He reached out today via text and said he wanted an apology for kicking him out, I said I wasn’t sorry so I wasn’t going to apologise. I said I didn’t feel I’d kicked him out, just asked him to leave as I felt upset and like the day was ruined.

We have previously agreed that we should tackle things head on, so I wasn’t wrong to ask him to leave but I think because I was so upset from the events of the past 12ish hours I couldn’t see it for what it was. I didn’t feel sorry because I was upset and angry.

He then ended things with me, as he feels I am a poor communicator, I am deliberately difficult and speak to him disrespectfully. He feels I have grossly disrespected him.

Things between us had been really lovely until this, so I was taken aback that he’d ended it.

During these exchanges I haven’t been nasty, raised my voice, sworn etc.

He has now said I am a vile person, I am toxic, I am like a dark cloud of sadness, I’m incapable of being happy, and I am not capable of a healthy relationship because of my ‘parents’ fucked up relationship’ growing up. He has told me to fuck off multiple times, that I’m manipulative.

I’ve told him how hurtful I have found his words, and that I really don’t feel them to be true. I am happy, and lots of people comment on my positivity.

He said “You think your actions have nothing to do with how I’ve been?” when referring to how he has spoken to me.

I really just need a fresh pair of eyes please. I acknowledge I have contributed to this, I should have behaved in a better way. It was a blip, but I didn’t see it as a massive deal.

I am genuinely sorry for how I’ve behaved, and I am trying and want to be a good partner. I feel really guilty that I’ve upset him and pushed him to this point.

OP posts:
GargoylesofBeelzebub · 07/04/2025 15:43

You've dodged a bullet here. He's a nasty nasty man.

Caerulea · 07/04/2025 15:42

OP - he sounds like a giant prick, & vile to boot.

But all of your posts have a whiff of defending him about them.

Stop that - immediately. You and your son don't need this crap in your lives. He clearly has no respect for women so do you want him as a lasting influence on your son?

Let him go, move on & expect better for yourself.

IntermittentFarting · 07/04/2025 15:41

He sounds awful.
As others have said he’s glad he’s single now so he can be one of those princes among men, The Thailand Sex Tourist. 🤮

OP, you said you were sort of single last time he went? I think it likely that he engineered that, too.

adriftinadenofvipers · 07/04/2025 15:40

Not sure why you even have to ask. The man is utterly vile. If he earns that much then he could afford to be generous and not cast it up to you. The Thailand thing last time round would have put me off right there and then - I wouldn't have let him near me with a bargepole. I think you need to get an STI check.

Never, ever consider, not for a millisecond having him back. I could see him come crawling back and as you accepted his debauchery last time round, he will think he can talk you back.

This is the time in a relationship that's supposed to be fun and loved up. If he treats you like this now, just imagine what you would be enduring 5 years down the line, when you'd probably be more tied to him. Get out while the going's good. He's a sleazy, skanky narc. I take it this Thai shagfest is an annual event? Gross. The thought of him makes me want to heave.

Pallisers · 07/04/2025 15:37

Nobody should live like this. block him and move on with your life.

venusandmars · 07/04/2025 15:35

So for some reason he's started making a big deal of finances. Has someone else maybe spoken to him about this, and he's now testing you? Or has he noticed that he's often the first one to offer to pay or that you eat at his more often than he eats at yours? Either way how he has behaved is not OK.

Fair enought that he took half the cake home but not how he phrased it. He could have said "we've made this delicious lemon cake, half for you to enjoy, half for me to enjoy at home" but he didn't, he made it all about money. If he's so fixated on it, that is never going to get better. Expect to be charged for using toilet paper at his house!

MumWifeOther · 07/04/2025 15:35

He’s done you a massive favour by ending things.

Never settle for a man this petty or stingy.

Also he absolutely will, and was always planning to, sleep with many people while abroad. Do not have unprotected sex with this man again!

GildedRage · 07/04/2025 15:33

Quit waffling; it’s bad/not that bad, cake/well half a cake, money/well not as much as I said….
He’s not the right fellow for you MOVE ON.

Hwi · 07/04/2025 15:33

Utter scumbag, sorry, no other words for him. He makes x 5 more than you and counts pennies and begrudges you food? Stinginess so unattractive. You need to change your assessment scale - you wrote 'things were OK until he broke up with me' - do you really think it is OK to take the cake home and separate your items in a trolley? Seriously? Good riddance to this scumbag.

orangedream · 07/04/2025 15:32

It's sounds like a horrible mess of a relationship. You are better off out of it. He seems vile with his Thailand sex trips. Stop berating yourself for it ending. There's every chance he manufactured it deliberately before his trip. Decide it's over and done.

MissDoubleU · 07/04/2025 15:31

meridiana · 07/04/2025 13:27

Also I meant to say he was going to take half of the cake home, not the full thing!

Oh, well this makes things better then.

Is this really the example of a relationship you want your son to grow up with? It’s toxic af.

Northerngirl821 · 07/04/2025 15:29

He showed you his true colours with the abusive message. He’s realised you’re not easily manipulated, that’s why he’s out - it’s a good thing even if it doesn’t seem that way!

Plus being that mean over money when he’s on such a good income is always a red flag.

Consider this a lucky escape.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 07/04/2025 15:27

Any post that starts with 'we've been on and off' I can practically guarantee will be a relationship that is better off being permanently 'off'.

It's not meant to be this hard.

ISthiswronggg · 07/04/2025 15:23

I could never, ever, ever, ever be with a man who made a cake with my son, then wanted to take the cake home afterwards (whether it's half or not, totally insignificant) for financial reasons?! A fucking cake! No no no. That would cringe me out so hard, taint my view on him forever.

ZiggyPlaysGuitarrr · 07/04/2025 15:20

He's an absolute wanker. Don't bother trying to analyse his behaviour, he's just an arsehole. Move on and don't look back.

DaisyBlazy · 07/04/2025 15:19

Hi.
I invited a school friend from another class to my DD birthday party using voicenote. The mum was very annoyed and immediately started to message how her daughter is crying and now so upset (invite sent at 6:30amish). Basically this mum thinks my daughter stole the whole date and idea and venue from this mum’s DD and then told me to book it first. It’s really crazy .
My DD and this other DD are both 6 My DD had no idea when I booked the party or the date or time .
This parent would not drop it saying her daughter definitely discussed this with mine .
I was then accused of inundating her with messages (I saved the WhatsApp messages ) I did not do this other than say : sorry to hear this and if the venue could accommodate more than 20 kids , we could share but last year we did just this and honestly , between 3 of us mums , we had no say in the planning . It was fine though, just made it easier to organise . I just didn’t want it again as it felt it wasn’t personal . And the use before this , this same mum told me off for taking children to a cinema then walking them (with parents ) to the cute cafe for food afterwards . She called me irresponsible. I don’t want problems for my daughter so I’ve let it go that year but now , now I feel she’s being unreasonable.

sorry this is long but it didn’t stop there . She then accosted me at the school hate gate , telling the teachers on duty how she’s been up since 4am with the baby and that I’ve ruined her morning by messaging her . She also demanded I stay and wait as the school will be sitting this out . I said no . She then accused me of not trying to sort it out .
mother mums are now distancing themselves from me because this mum has a sick baby .
This weekend this mum has now messaged my ex husband asking if our DD can go to her DDs party ! I would love this but she would not alllw her DD to attend the year before last at my DD’s and is clearly not allowing her DD to come this year. After what transpired at the school gates, I just want a minute and leave the party’s for this year , what should I do ?

Twinkletoes10 · 07/04/2025 15:17

Smithhy · 07/04/2025 13:29

He was manufacturing the reason for the relationship to end so he can buy sleep with women in Thailand.

My first thought.

SerafinasGoose · 07/04/2025 15:15

ARichtGoodDram · 07/04/2025 13:37

If you heard a bang that corresponds with him bringing your son's car seat in please consider buying a new one.

Your instinct was that he threw it and if he did it could have internal damage.

I'm here to say precisely the same.

It may be compromised. It isn't worth the risk.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/04/2025 15:14

MinnieCoops · 07/04/2025 15:05

He’s after a pass for Thailand. He’ll be back in touch once he’s fucked around over there

This.

TicTac80 · 07/04/2025 15:12

He sounds vile, and it looks like you're well rid. Tell him not to contact you again, and then block him on everything. You didn't "push him" to that point: he upset you, you asserted a boundary and said that he could leave (your home) once cake was done. He has a choice on how he reacts to things. It seems that the "good communication" only suits him when you're not asserting a boundary. The ranting, swearing and insults from were uncalled for, as were references to your parents. Sod him.

Upstartled · 07/04/2025 15:10

Why are you letting your child spend time with a man who has so little regard for you he begrudges covering the cost of cake ingredients?

Anyway. You have a right not to listen to another word he says again. Call it a day.

5en5uou5 · 07/04/2025 15:05

Oh OP I’m in a very similar position myself. I’m making my plans to leave, hopefully before the end of the year. He is not a good man and you’re better off without him.

MinnieCoops · 07/04/2025 15:05

He’s after a pass for Thailand. He’ll be back in touch once he’s fucked around over there

AdaStewart · 07/04/2025 15:04

Bill him for the cost of the fuel to bake the cake. Don’t apologize to him for anything, he’s a cunt.

thestudio · 07/04/2025 15:03

This man is a bad man and he shouldn't be around your son.

It sounds like, because of the relationship your parents modelled for you, you have a very low bar for what you and your son are worth as humans, and I think you really need some therapy to help you with that or it will happen again.